# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5401 "2024-05-25T15:34:46Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> If Trump says that he ‘nearly escaped death’, then that must mean that he is, in fact, dead.

And yet, he remains curiously uninterred.

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**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5402 "2024-05-25T18:03:34Z")

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Some day he will get it right.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5403 "2024-05-25T20:22:39Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> He tried. But the gawddam libs blocked _everything_!!

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m pretty sure many of the believe that he completed the wall, Mexico paid for it and Biden tore it down. …

The superpower of MAGA fans is that they can believe BOTH OF THESE THINGS simultaneously.

Or to put it another way, the superpower of MAGA fans is that their brains are broken.

Thus ‘_Trump would have done all he promised except for those meddling Libruls_’ coexists with ‘_Trump DID do all he promised_’ with no problems for MAGA believers, but for the incessant buzzing sound of dying neurons.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5404 "2024-05-25T22:38:44Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Elephants everywhere should sue for slander.

I may have posted this before. I really think the two big parties in the United States shoudl switch their logos. Republicans are jackasses.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5405 "2024-05-25T22:39:49Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> ‘_Trump would have done all he promised except for those meddling Libruls_’

Funny, the way I remember it is that Republicans controlled both houses of Congress for Trump’s first two years in office, and _still_ couldn’t manage to pass anything except yet another tax cut for the rich.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5406 "2024-05-25T23:31:58Z")

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Loser Donald tried to kick the Libertarians out of the Libertarian Convention so he could pack the audience with his paid Craigslist attendees.

The Libertarians aren’t playing along.

[https://x.com/MerylKornfield/status/1794490273810075753](https://x.com/MerylKornfield/status/1794490273810075753)

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794501645323444731](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794501645323444731)

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOdfmkbWMAEHtFy?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOdfmkbWMAEHtFy?format=jpg&name=medium)

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5407 "2024-05-26T00:57:38Z")

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Here’s a nice distillation of how it works:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOd0zETWMAAX8Ro?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOd0zETWMAAX8Ro?format=jpg&name=900x900)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5408 "2024-05-26T04:43:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Libertarians aren’t playing along.

He spoke, got booed, and cut his speech to 34 minutes. Hopefully this will gut the Mises caucus in the party.

> **[Trump loudly booed at Libertarian convention when he asks attendees to...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/25/politics/libertarian-party-trump-convention-speech/index.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump was loudly and consistently booed throughout his speech Saturday at the Libertarian Party’s national convention, particularly when he asked attendees to “nominate me or at least vote for me.”

> **[‘No wannabe dictators!’: Donald Trump booed at Libertarian convention](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/26/no-wannabe-dictators-donald-trump-booed-at-libertarian-convention)**
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> Jeers suggest Republican presidential candidate faces a challenge in broadening his appeal

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5409 "2024-05-26T12:32:13Z")

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If the Libertarian voting block amounted to more than 1%, it might mean something.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5410 "2024-05-26T12:34:40Z")

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It’s still a group that Trump was desperate to try to appeal to.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5411 "2024-05-26T12:42:09Z")

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Did he ever beg for their votes before?

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5412 "2024-05-26T14:14:34Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It’s still a group that Trump was desperate to try to appeal to.

Which suggests that his confidence in his victory is not quite as high as he claims.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5413 "2024-05-26T15:32:18Z")

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"because we have to get rid of the worst president in history.”

We did, Donny, we did.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5414 "2024-05-26T15:49:04Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> It’s still a group that Trump was desperate to try to appeal to.

That’s my take on it. Trump is so worried about the election he risked public humiliation\* to try to win a fraction of a percent of Libertarian voters.

That’s huge, as well as being hilarious.

\*he knew this was a risk, which is why he tried to pack the room with his own shills.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5415 "2024-05-26T15:54:23Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Loser Donald tried to kick the Libertarians out of the Libertarian Convention so he could pack the audience with his paid Craigslist attendees.

Absolutely in character. Just wanting to bully their way into taking over any space they are admitted into and doing whatever they feel like doing, no consideration for rules or etiquette or tradition or gentlemen’s agreements.

Seems the _Libertarian_ Libertarians, as opposed to the _Embarrassed to say Republican_ LINOs, were in a mood to show more spine than the actual Republicans did when faced with that. Which I suppose is easier when you _know_ it’s not like you’ll lose your elected seat since you know you are never getting elected anyway.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5416 "2024-05-26T17:53:11Z")

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I’ll admit I’m wondering what the conspiracy theory / rationale will be about the booing. No way trump and the maga mob could accept disrespect of dear leader.

It obviously has to be one of: made up accusations about the group itself, claiming democrats infiltrated the conference, claiming libertarians actually love him (and here’s someone holding a “libertarians for trump” sign), or, most likely, all of the above.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5417 "2024-05-26T18:12:22Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> He spoke, got booed, and cut his speech to 34 minutes. Hopefully this will gut the Mises caucus in the party.
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/25/politics/libertarian-party-trump-convention-speech/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/25/politics/libertarian-party-trump-convention-speech/index.html)

They weren’t booing, they were saying “LOOOOOOd-wig”.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5418 "2024-05-26T18:36:56Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> If the Libertarian voting block amounted to more than 1%, it might mean something.

High point for Presidential elections was [3.28%](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election), 4.4-million votes, in 2016 with Gary Johnson.

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/5419 "2024-05-26T19:06:52Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Absolutely in character. Just wanting to bully their way into taking over any space they are admitted into and doing whatever they feel like doing, no consideration for rules or etiquette or tradition or gentlemen’s agreements.

Having been a delegate to Libertarian National Conventions, I don’t see what actual impact the shill could have had. The business of the convention is open – anyone can wander in\* – but the nominations are made by credentialed delegates and the votes are tallied and reported by state by the state’s chief delegate, typically the state party chair.

I suppose fake delegates could try to crash the process ala the fake electors scheme but that would doubtless lead to a big fight on the floor with the two factions claiming to be the real delegates but failing that they could no more influence the selection than I could showing up in Milwaukee to get [Chase Oliver](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver) nominated.

\*In my experience no one did except the occasional reporter and those seeking the nomination who might or might not be a delegate.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > If the Libertarian voting block amounted to more than 1%, it might mean something.
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> High point for Presidential elections was [3.28%](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_and_independent_candidates_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election), 4.4-million votes, in 2016 with Gary Johnson.

Which in itself looks like bad news for Trump. Or at least one could interpret it that way: possibly in most Presidential elections many who consider themselves Libertarians will vote for the GOP candidate out of a realistic sense that such a vote will get them closer to what they want than would a vote for their own candidate. (Because their own candidate has zero chance of winning, whereas in a close Dem v. GOP standoff, their vote for the GOP candidate might actually have an effect.)

But in 2016, with the GOP candidate being Trump, they…just could _ **not** _.

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