# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 339
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6761 "2024-08-05T22:08:47Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There’s a small germ of concern in a few of these cases where there’s land near military installations being bought up and maybe a few of those have some legs as being close enough to engage in espionage. Yep. That’s how I like my spyin’ done. Right out in the open. It’s not concern. It’s irrational bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6762 "2024-08-05T22:52:01Z")
Not speaking of Jihi in particular, but most people would probably be better as newts. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6763 "2024-08-05T22:59:21Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There’s a small germ of concern in a few of these cases where there’s land near military installations being bought up and maybe a few of those have some legs as being close enough to engage in espionage. The ruby-red Kansas state legislature passed a bill which would have prohibited ownership of non-residential property within 100 miles of any military installation by foreign nationals from China, Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and Venezuela. That would have covered almost all of Kansas. Fortunately, our Dem governor vetoed the bill. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6764 "2024-08-05T23:02:03Z")
Ha, in Walmart today a boomer lady was sporting a “What up, witches!” t-shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6765 "2024-08-05T23:57:08Z")
I may be going out on a limb here, putting [this story](https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-man-faces-charges-online-191600940.html) in this thread. The link goes to a video on Yahoo. I’ve quoted the one paragraph story below the video. FYI: GETTR, apparently, is some kind of conservative social media thing. > A Virginia man is facing charges for threatening online to kill Vice President Harris, and he made additional threats to other public officials. Frank Lucio Carillo was arrested Friday after a search of his account on the alternative social media platform GETTR by law enforcement yielded a series of violent threats against the vice president. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6766 "2024-08-06T00:02:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > GETTR, apparently, is some kind of conservative social media thing. Yep, it was founded in 2021 by Jason Miller, who’s now one of the chief strategists for Trump’s campaign. Its format is similar to X, AIUI. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6767 "2024-08-06T00:18:44Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Yep. That’s how I like my spyin’ done. Right out in the open. > > It’s not concern. It’s irrational bigotry. There actually are a (very limited) number of cases where it does appear to have happened. Usually through intermediary companies (of course) who sometimes buy without properly reporting foreign ownership. But, yeah, the right wing political posturing is definitely bigotry using those few examples as badly disguised cover. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6768 "2024-08-06T05:54:53Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The ruby-red Kansas state legislature passed a bill which would have prohibited ownership of non-residential property within 100 miles of any military installation by foreign nationals from China, Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and Venezuela. That would have covered almost all of Kansas. Fortunately, our Dem governor vetoed the bill. At first glance, I don’t think prohibiting ownership is necessarily a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6769 "2024-08-06T06:04:05Z")
At second glance, try to figure out how much available land would be left. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6770 "2024-08-06T06:12:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At second glance, try to figure out how much available land would be left I saw that. But foreign ownership of large amounts of land seems like a bad idea (although I don’t see a reason to limit it to those countries). Other reasonable countries have taken to limiting foreign ownership of land. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6771 "2024-08-06T06:14:36Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > > [@Railer13](#): > > > > The ruby-red Kansas state legislature passed a bill which would have prohibited ownership of non-residential property within 100 miles of any military installation by foreign nationals from China, Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and Venezuela. That would have covered almost all of Kansas. Fortunately, our Dem governor vetoed the bill. > > At first glance, I don’t think prohibiting ownership is necessarily a bad idea. Wouldn’t that be violating a federal law, though? I’m operating under the impression one cannot refuse to sell land to someone based on their nationality, ethnicity, etc. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6772 "2024-08-06T06:16:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wouldn’t that be violating a federal law, though? I’m operating under the impression one cannot refuse to sell land to someone based on their nationality, ethnicity, etc.- That I do not know. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6773 "2024-08-06T06:21:36Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wouldn’t that be violating a federal law, though? I’m operating under the impression one cannot refuse to sell land to someone based on their nationality, ethnicity, etc. I would suppose that is the case, but if a foreign buyer made an offer, it would be perfectly okay for the American seller to state an outrageous price that no reasonable buyer would pay, or to simply take the property off the market. Neither would violate any “not selling to foreigners” laws. Of course, in the latter case, the property might go back on the market in six months, but by then, the seller would hope that the prospective foreign buyer has looked elsewhere and found something. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6774 "2024-08-06T07:56:15Z")
But we are talking about purchases of any amount of land, not just purchases of large amounts of land. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6775 "2024-08-06T07:57:21Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I would suppose that is the case, but if a foreign buyer made an offer, it would be perfectly okay for the American seller to state an outrageous price that no reasonable buyer would pay, or to simply take the property off the market. Neither would violate any “not selling to foreigners” laws. I think you may be mistaken on that. There’s “black letter law” and then there’s “intent”. I forget the legal terms right now. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6776 "2024-08-06T08:04:18Z")
I’m not so sure, @Monty. IAAL, and I practice in the Human Rights area. Not in the United States, but the law in my home of Canada is similar. I know “black letter law,” and “intent,” and I’ve had to advise any number of clients that what they believe to be discrimination is not actually that. “You cannot complain that the seller raised the price/took the property off the market because you’re Chinese. What proof do you have? Besides your belief? Show me some proof.” My wannabe clients usually cannot. And that’s why they are wannabe clients. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6777 "2024-08-06T10:52:48Z")
Besides, owning land is not the same as having sovreignty over land. The Chinese could purchase all of Kansas, and the government can still enter the land with or without a warrant, depending on the circumstances, and it can seize the land through eminent domain or other forms of forfeiture, some of which might be invented specifically for this purpose. I mean, the British and French once thought they owned the Suez Canal. Didn’t help them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6778 "2024-08-06T10:57:12Z")
You’re thinking far too rationally about this. We’re talking about people who literally think the Democrats are in cahoots with China to deliberately cause massive famine across the US so they can ban red meat and force everyone to eat bugs. I wish I were making that up. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6779 "2024-08-06T11:25:42Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > The ruby-red Kansas state legislature passed a bill which would have prohibited ownership of non-residential property within 100 miles of any military installation by foreign nationals from China, Cuba, Iraq, North Korea and Venezuela. Russians are welcome though. All-_Righty_-then. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/6780 "2024-08-06T11:37:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wouldn’t that be violating a federal law, though? I’m operating under the impression one cannot refuse to sell land to someone based on their nationality, ethnicity, etc. We do have [CFIUS](https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/international/the-committee-on-foreign-investment-in-the-united-states-cfius) that reviews _certain_ investments by foreign groups. Even that isn’t remotely a prohibition of ownership, it’s a review of transactions for national security purposes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=338) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=340)