# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 366
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7301 "2024-08-24T03:02:59Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I wish people would stop using the word “conservative” when talking about radically right-wing. In the English language a word can have multiple meanings. It might behoove you to learn that. In fact, I’ll help you with that. > **[Definition of CONSERVATIVE](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative)** > > of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism; of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism: such as; of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions… See the full... Note that any political party that claims to be conservative is, by definition, conservative. In the United States that is the Republican Party. If you want to push ignorance and pretend this isn’t true, you’re on the wrong web site. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7302 "2024-08-24T03:07:55Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Note that any political party that claims to be conservative is, by definition, conservative. In the United States that is the Republican Party. Welcome to the Seventh Party System. The Democrats are the conservative party in this country now. The Republicans are now reactionary fascists. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7303 "2024-08-24T03:50:44Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I wonder what caused that change? It wasn’t working at all, and it was starting to make HIM look bad, not her. Like he was too feeble minded to say her name right and/or couldn’t come up with a better moniker. Cut losses and start over. If his team (not him - he’s too dumb) can manufacture something, maybe we’ll see him try that out in the near future. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I wish people would stop using the word “conservative” when talking about radically right-wing. Meh. Some people say evangelicals shouldn’t call themselves “Christians” because blah, blah, blah technicality. No True Scotsman is rarely a good line of reasoning. At some point, a sub-group can become sufficiently large and influential that it is perfectly valid practice to accept their self-identification as representative of a broader group. The MAGA takeover of conservatism happened years ago. The conservative-conservatives rolled over and/or picked up their toys and went home for the most part. The few who are speaking up are not in positions of any real power, either having left or been kicked out. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7304 "2024-08-24T06:00:27Z")
You can’t look back if you never move forward. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7305 "2024-08-24T06:04:37Z")
I’m sorry, but your particular tribe of True Scotsmen are pretty much dead and buried. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7306 "2024-08-24T06:09:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > … and where the emotion binding everyone together is mutual contempt … You may have just coined a new collective noun: a contempt of Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7307 "2024-08-24T06:13:42Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > a contempt of Republicans an anger of Republicans a disgrace of Republicans a horror of Republicans a treason of Republicans an awful of Republicans a disgust of Republicans . . . ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7308 "2024-08-24T06:19:31Z")
A prison of Republicans ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7309 "2024-08-24T07:03:01Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > A prison of Republicans We’re well on the way there! a riot of Republicans a renunciation of Republicans a covfefe of Republicans . . . ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7310 "2024-08-24T10:06:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > an anger of Republicans > a disgrace of Republicans > a horror of Republicans > a treason of Republicans > an awful of Republicans > a disgust of Republicans I thought we’d settled on “basket”. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7311 "2024-08-24T12:04:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > I wish people would stop using the word “conservative” when talking about radically right-wing. > > In the English language a word can have multiple meanings. It might behoove you to learn that. > > In fact, I’ll help you with that. > > [Conservative Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative) > > Note that any political party that claims to be conservative is, by definition, conservative. In the United States that is the Republican Party. > > If you want to push ignorance and pretend this isn’t true, you’re on the wrong web site. There’s probably a definition of “patriot” that lets them claim that label, too, but you don’t see the rest of us going along with it. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7312 "2024-08-24T14:38:41Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > The denial is strong with that one. Facing themselves in a mirror must be harder each day. Makes me wonder if it’s actual delusion from living in an alternative-reality bubble or if it’s just SOP from the Cohn/Trump playbook: deflect, deny, never admit fault, accuse the accuser. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7313 "2024-08-24T14:59:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > There’s probably a definition of “patriot” that lets them claim that label, too, but you don’t see the rest of us going along with it. And that’s the difference. The other conservatives DID go along with the MAGA takeover. Sure, there’s a remaining vocal minority decrying the current situation but they are decidedly a minority and have even less power. The rest are either fine with it or have decided to stay quiet. Well, that’s on them. They decided MAGA as the conservative standard bearer was no dealbreaker. I’m sure if things change, they’ll be among the first to stick a knife in the corpse, just like the opportunists they’ve shown themselves to be, but in the meantime, they get to wear the label they’ve chosen for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7314 "2024-08-24T15:00:37Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > they get to wear the label they’ve chosen for themselves. A scarlet (or orange) T? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7315 "2024-08-24T15:02:37Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > A scarlet (or orange) T? Sure, why not? I believe they approve of the phrase “Fuck your feelings”. Reacharounds are fair play, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7316 "2024-08-24T15:08:55Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > There’s probably a definition of “patriot” that lets them claim that label, too, but you don’t see the rest of us going along with it. > > And that’s the difference. > > The other conservatives DID go along with the MAGA takeover. Sure, there’s a remaining vocal minority decrying the current situation but they are decidedly a minority and have even less power. I’m not buying it. There are more of us (with respect for the language) than there are of those craven assholes. I know that calls to action on the SDMB are not allowed, so I’ll take my stand elsewhere. Y’all are welcome to join me, if you want. (I’m still going to call that crap out on the board periodically. Just don’t call me a one-trick pony. Do we still use “one-trick pony” here?) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7317 "2024-08-24T15:12:06Z")
Ok, the “agree to disagree” route. That’s fine. But something to think about - if you were to take a poll of all the self-described conservatives in the US, do you think they would, as a whole, put the current MAGA trend in the “conservative” column or the “radical” column? Note this is a good way for other distinctions people like to make (“Are Mormons Christians?” “Are Evangelicals actually Christians?” “Are Liberals Real Americans?”) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7318 "2024-08-24T15:29:32Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > There are more of us (with respect for the language) than there are of those craven assholes So the squeaky (and violent and weird) wheels get the grease? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7319 "2024-08-24T16:07:22Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The other conservatives DID go along with the MAGA takeover. Or they changed sides like I did. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7320 "2024-08-24T16:13:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > There are more of us (with respect for the language) than there are of those craven assholes. If that’s the case, why is the remaining minority making the decisions? I’ve often said that while I understand republicans will vote republican, I wish they would pick better republicans to vote for. If there’s more of you than them, you should be able to find better candidates. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=365) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=367)