# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7341 "2024-08-26T03:53:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Lara Trump says “illegal citizens” are trying to vote.

About what I’d expect from someone dumb enough to marry Eric Trump.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7342 "2024-08-26T08:12:53Z")

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Apparently, it’s Barak Obama’s fault that President Biden withdrew his candidacy. [So says Gingrich.](https://www.aol.com/news/gingrich-says-biden-likely-blames-110000781.html) (The link goes to AOL.)

> Gingrich claimed during his Sunday interview with host John Catsimatidis that Biden, who served two terms as former President Obama’s vice president, holds the Obamas “directly responsible” for his [decision](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4757036-joe-biden-withdraws-kamala-harris-donald-trump/) not to seek a second term.

Yeah, right.

It occurs to me that scum like Gingrich and the melon felon are so used to lying with every breath they take, they simply cannot process the truth. They cannot believe anything coming out of an hones person’s mouth.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7343 "2024-08-26T08:43:45Z")

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It’s even dumber than that. Gingrich isn’t just saying that the Obamas were a major factor in the change of guard, but specifically that _Biden blames them_, something that can only be known by the man himself. And I’m sure the president is having intimate conversations with his buddy Newt.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7344 "2024-08-26T13:17:31Z")

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> <https://x.com/votevets/status/1826280340790640961>

29 elected Republicans attack Walz, accusing him of stolen valor, while falsely inflating their own military service.

The Republicans have since withdrawn the letter and revised it.

Rep. Ronny Jackson, however, is still falsely claiming to be an admiral.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7345 "2024-08-26T14:01:53Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> 29 elected Republicans attack Walz, accusing him of stolen valor, while falsely inflating their own military service.
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> The Republicans have since withdrawn the letter and revised it.
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> Rep. Ronny Jackson, however, is still falsely claiming to be an admiral.

What’s the best way to push back on this? A list of Republicans and their military malarky would just make people’s eyes glaze over.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7346 "2024-08-26T14:19:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the best way to push back on this?

They could suffer the same legal repercussions any of us would if we did the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7347 "2024-08-26T14:24:08Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the best way to push back on this?

My idiot Senator, Roger Marshall, was on the list as ‘Retired’, even though he served for seven years, rather than the required 20. He posts regularly on FB about the monstrosities of the current administration. Next time he does, I’ll try to slip in a not-so-snide comment about this letter.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7348 "2024-08-26T14:28:46Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> What’s the best way to push back on this?

“As usual, a majority of the Republicans were lying about their own service.”

There’s too much detail to be debunked effectively on an individual level. So just push the message that Republicans always lie. It helps in that they pretty much always do lie.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7349 "2024-08-26T14:46:46Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> They could suffer the same legal repercussions any of us would if we did the same thing.

Firing squad?

(For several months I’ve been immersed in novels set on the battlefields and elsewhere during World War I. Not much wiggle room back then on this kind of thing.)

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7350 "2024-08-26T22:25:21Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> If you’re looking for a textbook example of Stolen Valor, look no further than Donald Trump’s campaign and the 50 Veterans who signed this letter.  
> 29 of the signatures come from Republicans who falsely claim they retired from military service.

They truly are lying liars.

And of course—apart from their own lies or exaggerations about their own service—as usual the GOP is relying on one particular type of lie. They love ‘distortion’ almost as much as they love outright fabrication.

As far as I can see, no one has anything negative to say about Walz’s actual service. No, their supposed scandals come from TWO times Walz misspoke—out of thousands of speeches or posts or other forms of communication. In 2006 he said “I’m a retired command sergeant major” which was not technically true because he WAS a command sergeant major, but did not retire as one. Trying to make this into “stolen valor” is a reach longer than Earth to the Andromeda Galaxy.

The second single unfortunate reference: in 2018 he said “weapons of war that I carried in war” (instead of what he’s said thousands of times in discussing gun issues, ‘weapons of war I was issued as part of my service’ or the like). Again, he misspoke once out of thousands of times.

But to desperate (and undeniably stupid) Republicans who have nothing else available to them for legitimate criticism of Walz: there ya go.

> **[Takeaways from the AP's review of Tim Walz's descriptions of his military record](https://apnews.com/article/walz-military-record-national-guard-harris-minnesota-231959aa7440571ddea1304bd7598a19)**
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> Democratic vice presidential nominee served in the National Guard for 24 years, rising through the enlisted ranks and receiving an honorable discharge. It is a record seen as one of his political strengths. Republicans are trying to turn it into a...

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7351 "2024-08-26T22:34:48Z")

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The Republicans have cornered the market on fine tooth combs, which they will use to sift through every utterance written or spoken by Walz and Harris since each drew their first breath, including but not limited to their first words as toddlers.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7352 "2024-08-26T22:40:06Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The Republicans have cornered the market on fine tooth combs, which they will use to sift through every utterance written or spoken by Walz and Harris since each drew their first breath, including but not limited to their first words as toddlers. .

Well, that’s fair. Petty and off-topic as far as actual policies and political-positions are concerned, but…fair. If they said something even once, it’s fair to mention that they said it----once.

But the Republicans HAVE to lie about it. Sometimes just by implication (“Walz says” _implying_ that this is what Walz routinely claims), but often with outright lying about Walz supposedly always talking about his “in war” experiences.

It’s somehow both ugly and pathetic at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7353 "2024-08-26T23:20:05Z")

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Last year, Tim Walz took his dog to the park, and took some pictures of himself petting another dog that his dog made friends with.

This utterly confuses and bewilders Republicans, since the idea of being nice to another being without trying to trick them into doing something for you is alien to them, so they’ve seized on the existence of photos of Walz petting two different dogs as proof that he was (checks notes) lying about taking his dog to the park.

> **[Republican senator promotes seemingly-debunked scandal over Tim Walz and his...](https://www.rawstory.com/tim-walz-dog-conspiracy/)**
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> Donald Trump's supporters have created a new scandal around Gov. Time Walz (D-MN) — this time involving his dog.On Monday, several Republicans highlighted a photo of from X with a post in which the governor mentions his pet Scout. The animal in the...

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7354 "2024-08-26T23:22:08Z")

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Jesse Watters jokes that the Joint Chiefs of Staff are going to gang-rape Kamala Harris.

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1828181090202460178](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1828181090202460178)

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7355 "2024-08-26T23:36:16Z")

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Please do not misrepresent the content.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7356 "2024-08-26T23:42:33Z")

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> Watters: She’s going to get paralyzed in the situation room while the generals have their way with her

What am I misrepresenting, Mr. New York Times fact-checker?

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7357 "2024-08-27T00:08:35Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Apparently, it’s Barak Obama’s fault that President Biden withdrew his candidacy. [So says Gingrich.](https://www.aol.com/news/gingrich-says-biden-likely-blames-110000781.html)

It’s worse. According to Gingrich, Biden blames Obama for forcing him out _in 2016_! You know, the election where Biden chose not to run in the wake of his son’s death.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> What am I misrepresenting, Mr. New York Times fact-checker?

He did clarify “not in a sexual way”.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7358 "2024-08-27T00:09:40Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> It’s worse. According to Gingrich, Biden blames Obama for forcing him out _in 2016_! You know, the election where Biden chose not to run in the wake of his son’s death.

Dollars to donuts had he run the pubbies would’ve called him a bad father for not taking time off to mourn.

> [@Railer13](#):
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> My idiot Senator, Roger Marshall, was on the list as ‘Retired’, even though he served for seven years, rather than the required 20.

It’s possible to retire before reaching 20 years service. That’s usually done by being medically retired due to a service-connected injury. I did quick search and all I found out was he reached the rank of captain in the US Army Reserves. There was no mention of medical retirement.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@Irishman](#):
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> He did clarify “not in a sexual way”.

Right. Just the other totally inocuous way in which a group of men “have their way” with a “paralyzed” woman. His implication was clear and he wouldn’t have said it about a male candidate.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7360 "2024-08-27T00:40:49Z")

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If that’s not what he meant, it’s a very creepy choice of words.

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