# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7461 "2024-08-28T16:03:40Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> He expects high command to be the realm of aggressive bullies with authority who scorn those unlike them.

I don’t think he has any idea how “woke” the Joint Chiefs are (note the Navy Chief!)  
[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Members_of_the_Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff_gathered_to_pose_for_a_photo_in_the_Pentagon_during_the_Chairman%27s_Strategic_Seminar_Series_on_May_14%2C_2024_-_240514-D-LS763-1009_%2853724961137%29.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Members_of_the_Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff_gathered_to_pose_for_a_photo_in_the_Pentagon_during_the_Chairman%27s_Strategic_Seminar_Series_on_May_14%2C_2024_-_240514-D-LS763-1009_%2853724961137%29.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7462 "2024-08-28T16:51:33Z")

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Is the SPAAAAACEE FOOOOOORCE part of the Joint Chiefs?

Probably not, I don’t see any FLOUTUS designed uniforms.🙂

[![](https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/SF_104_Unit_02704R.jpg) ](https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/SF_104_Unit_02704R.jpg)

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7463 "2024-08-28T17:07:33Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Is the SPAAAAACEE FOOOOOORCE part of the Joint Chiefs?

Yep. Second guy from right standing in **peccavi’s** pic, with the asymmetric coat buttons.

(Left to right — standing: COSArmy, Commandant USMC, Chief Naval Ops, COSAir Force, Chief Space Ops, Chief National Guard Bureau(\*); seated: Chairman, Vice Chairman)

(\* former, replaced with a new guy this month)  
(\*\* there is a pending legislation to add the USCG Commandant (woman, again) as a full time member)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7464 "2024-08-28T17:20:19Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> with the asymmetric coat buttons.

Different enough, but somehow cool, and a different blue from the AF or Navy.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7465 "2024-08-28T19:25:23Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (\*\* there is a pending legislation to add the USCG Commandant (woman, again) as a full time member)

Thank you for that; I assumed the Coast Guard had someone there and was trying to figure out which one it was.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7466 "2024-08-28T22:18:36Z")

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The Commandant of the Coast Guard (currently Admiral Linda Fagan) is a “Non-Member Attendee” - at least for now.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7467 "2024-08-28T23:24:42Z")

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The Republican Senate candidate for Pennsylvania retweeted an article about a gang-related shooting in Philadelphia carried out by an alleged illegal immigrant, blaming it on his Democratic opponent.

The story was from Philadelphia, Mississippi.

> **['This story is from Mississippi': PA Democrats pounce as rival mixes up...](https://www.rawstory.com/dave-mccormick-2669092677/)**
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> The campaign for Pennsylvania Republican Senate candidate Dave McCormick attempted to highlight crime driven by border insecurity — but in doing so, the campaign appeared to mix up two entirely separate Philadelphias.The campaign page for McCormick,...

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7468 "2024-08-28T23:44:25Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> with the asymmetric coat buttons.

I don’t know if it’s just me? But that Space Force uniform looks strikingly like the uniforms used in the Star Trek TOS movies from the '80s. I don’t know if that design is common among militaries, but I have to wonder how deliberate the similarity is?

[![](https://www.grunge.com/img/gallery/star-trek-uniforms-fully-explained/intro-1600366297.jpg) ](https://www.grunge.com/img/gallery/star-trek-uniforms-fully-explained/intro-1600366297.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7469 "2024-08-29T00:35:14Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> I don’t know if that design is common among militaries, but I have to wonder how deliberate the similarity is?

Probably pretty deliberate, since here is the Space Force logo next to the Star Fleet logo:

[![](https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/E4D7/production/_110638585_untitled-132423423.jpg) ](https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/E4D7/production/_110638585_untitled-132423423.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7470 "2024-08-29T01:06:50Z")

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The pleasant irony of the USSF logo recording its foundation year in an archaic non-place-value numeral format that became obsolete as a computational tool nearly a thousand years ago is not lost on me. 🤣

Guys, are you sure you want to be embedding in your logo a permanent reminder of some of the, um, issues that US space programs have had in the past with ensuring consistent use of a single standardized system of units? Optics, people.

(Other than that, though, I’m all in favor of the Starfleet Command homage. You boldly go!)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7471 "2024-08-29T02:10:22Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> (Other than that, though, I’m all in favor of the Starfleet Command homage. You boldly go!)

I’m a Star Trek fan so yeah, I’m actually okay with it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7472 "2024-08-29T05:38:31Z")

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Wasn’t the Star Fleet logo based on some prior USAF one?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7473 "2024-08-29T09:21:45Z")

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Bless her heart.

> **[On white nationalist's show, Georgia state official Kandiss Taylor said Jews...](https://www.jta.org/2024/08/27/politics/georgia-state-official-kandiss-taylor-accused-jewish-people-of-controlling-everything-on-white-nationalists-tv-show)**
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> The comments were condemned by Georgia’s only Jewish state representative, Democrat Esther Panitch. 

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7474 "2024-08-29T09:49:49Z")

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Very loosely based on the NASA “meatball” logo first seen in 1958.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/NASA_logo.svg/918px-NASA_logo.svg.png) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/NASA_logo.svg/918px-NASA_logo.svg.png)

The stars, the orbit, and you can make out an abstract arrowhead shape from the red part.

Space Force is much closer to Star Fleet than Star Fleet was to NASA.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7475 "2024-08-29T16:02:09Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Space Force is much closer to Star Fleet than Star Fleet was to NASA.

You mean chronologically, in mission, or in logos?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7476 "2024-08-29T16:03:15Z")

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Correct. 😛

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7477 "2024-08-29T16:03:25Z")

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There’s also shades of Lego Classic Space.  
[![](https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/uploads/monthly_05_2009/post-3239-1243438543.png) ](https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/uploads/monthly_05_2009/post-3239-1243438543.png)

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7478 "2024-08-29T16:59:30Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> You mean chronologically, in mission, or in logos?

Logos, I really am not sure what the mission of Space Force is supposed to be.

Chronologically, if Star Fleet were to form for real at the same time as it did in Star Trek, it’s almost 120 years away. NASA was founded 66 years ago.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7479 "2024-08-29T17:03:58Z")

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Wow, they actually have a mission statement!

“secure our Nation’s interests in, from, and to space.”

“We did not hire a corporate marketing team to develop a catch phrase. " And it shows!

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7480 "2024-08-29T17:06:43Z")

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Spaceship! SPACESHIP!

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