# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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[It’s about time to call the Republicans the Whacked-Out Nut-Job party.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/ron-johnson-speculates-u-government-202418521.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.)

> Wisconsin Republican U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson this week speculated without evidence that the federal government could have been involved in the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump in July.
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> Speaking on the Federalist Radio Hour podcast Thursday, Johnson derided the government’s investigation into the July 13 shooting during which Trump was grazed by a bullet as “almost completely opaque.” He said there is a “grotesque level of corruption” in the federal government and referenced Richard Nixon and the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
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> “When you don’t know the federal government involvement in the JFK assassination, when you really don’t know what happened with Nixon … that might’ve been the second coup,” Johnson said. “The first coup is you take out Kennedy, the second coup you take out Nixon, and then you take out Trump.”
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> “To what extent has the federal government been involved in these things?” Johnson said. “We’ll probably never know because there’s a reason you call it the deep state. It’s very deep. It’s very pervasive.”

There’s a reason you call it the deep state, Ronny; that reason is you’re fucking stupid.

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Currently making the rounds on social media so apply the usual caveats, but it appears someone wanted to make a poster that appealed to Latinos and thus produced one in…Latin. And not even good Latin.

[![](https://preview.redd.it/mihi-latins-v0-bizi9pcu0ind1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6cec7a25e00e2e1ae336fcd7a8600d94de3a679a) ](https://preview.redd.it/mihi-latins-v0-bizi9pcu0ind1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6cec7a25e00e2e1ae336fcd7a8600d94de3a679a)

Which I’m told roughly translates to:

_“The legal (accusative) inhabitants (nominative) and (many) (nominative or accusative) citizens of the province of Hispania and (nominative) latins. (One of you) pray for (or towards) a Trump._

_The Family - The Works - The Safety”_

Sorry if this turns out to be fake, but it is amusing me anyway.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7743 "2024-09-08T13:26:14Z")

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-Hey boss, I’m trying to translate this sign into Mexican but there isn’t an option for that, what should I do?  
-Um, Latinos speak Latin, duh.

FWIW, Google translates it, from Latin, as:

> LEGAL HISPANIC AND LATIN
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> • Family Works Security
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> Vote for Trump!

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I’m assuming Google Translate is what was used in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7745 "2024-09-08T15:00:47Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Sorry if this turns out to be fake, but it is amusing me anyway.

Of course it’s fake. There’s no way a magaflatearther is going to write something ungrammatical and spelled incorrectly in a foreign language. They’re going to stick to their usual butchering of just the English language.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7746 "2024-09-08T18:04:20Z")

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The full picture is here:

[![](https://preview.redd.it/some-moron-translated-a-trump-sign-into-latin-instead-of-v0-odkj938mkgnd1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=09ab26663d2ef350edc717d49d61f7a270db91c5) ](https://preview.redd.it/some-moron-translated-a-trump-sign-into-latin-instead-of-v0-odkj938mkgnd1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=09ab26663d2ef350edc717d49d61f7a270db91c5)

Maybe someone can check if there are obvious signs of manipulation but it looks pretty real to me.

It looks like it was taken from a car window when it was raining.

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I can confidently state that the federal government was deeply involved in Nixon’s ouster and the events leading up to it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7748 "2024-09-08T20:18:32Z")

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Right. But it wasn’t some super duper secret body nefariously ousting an innocent person from office.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7749 "2024-09-08T22:23:23Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > Oh, so Hannity was just trying to drum up some career-boosting business for himself. Makes sense.
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> Hasn’t career-boosting defined his entire career?

That, plus pathetically-fervent boot-licking.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7750 "2024-09-09T02:46:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> ISTM that it’s more likely that it starved to death.

[![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMyj3YuS94iLANcIx4QNdbYxCPZPU3gl01yg&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMyj3YuS94iLANcIx4QNdbYxCPZPU3gl01yg&s)

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“What is this? ‘The people named Romane into the house they go’?”

The interesting part is that “vota pro Trump” does translate to “vote pro-Trump” in Spanish. (“vota _por_ Trump” would be “vote for Trump”). So at least for someone driving past glancing at a distance it would not look “wrong” at first, just kind of stilted.

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Sometimes the phrase needs “_por_”, sometimes the right word is “_para_”, I can never figure out which is right.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7753 "2024-09-09T07:06:10Z")

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This blog explains it:

> **[Por vs Para: The 4 Key Differences Explained - Busuu Blog](https://blog.busuu.com/por-vs-para/)**
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> "Ohh, I totally understand it now" – be one of the few Spanish learners who actually get the difference between por and para.

It’s a bit complicated but the main difference is that when you say “por” you are describing events happening simultaneously, while with “para” you have events happening sequentially.

The blog explains it in better detail. My Spanish is very limited and comes from one quarter of study in college, and then sporadic usage and exposure to the language in the decades since.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7754 "2024-09-09T07:38:29Z")

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Sorry I’m a few daysd late, but I thought this may interest you.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YMl9Wf9r_MA/maxresdefault.jpg "'The Julie Andrews Dirty Song Book' (expurgated).") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMl9Wf9r_MA)

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And even if your read it correctly “Vote pro-trump” is weird but understandable (if may be not quite Academy-approved) spanish for “Vote for Trump”. (You can interpret it literally as “Vote in favor of Trump”)  
Spanish and Latin can be very similar for some reason…  
(For example I can understand 90% of the Latin phrases Caesar or Trajan speak in the Civilization series)

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Spanish and Latin can be very similar for some reason…  
> (For example I can understand 90% of the Latin phrases Caesar or Trajan speak in the Civilization series)

There was an early law and order episode where Italian-speaking detective Serreta was able to communicate with a Spanish-speaking witness: “It’s a romance language.” I still use that line when I can understand some Italian in movies, but I only understand Spanish.

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> There was an early law and order episode where Italian-speaking detective Serreta was able to communicate with a Spanish-speaking witness: “It’s a romance language.” I still use that line when I can understand some Italian in movies, but I only understand Spanish.

My father-in-law grew up speaking Bulgarian and Ladino (Judeoespañol), a Spanish-based dialect. As an adult, he could hold a rudimentary conversation in Spanish, French, Italian and Russian (besides being fluent in Hebrew, English and Arabic), although in his case it was also a combination of fierce intelligence and sheer bluster.

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There was a time in my life when I was reasonably conversational in Italian, and could read Spanish with about 50% comprehension.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Family Works Security

Well, at least we’ve finally figured out what “Black Jobs” they’re stealing! Hiring all their cousins to work security!

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/7760 "2024-09-09T15:01:53Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Family Works Security

They probably asked first for “Work, Family, Country” and someone told them that was the Pétainiste slogan.

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