# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8401 "2024-10-11T19:29:25Z")

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Trump is trying to win over Mormons - by selling them LDS-themed coffee mugs and beer can holders.

> **[Trump campaign woos Mormon voters — with merchandise at odds with religion](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mormon-vote/)**
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> Former President Donald Trump's campaign is trying to shore up support with Mormon voters — but they're off to an awkward start.According to Deseret News reporter Samuel Benson, the Trump campaign has launched a line of "Latter-Day Saints for Trump"...

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8402 "2024-10-11T19:38:52Z")

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It’s not like “try to appeal to religious people with tactics explicitly against their religion” is a new strategy for Republicans.

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**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8403 "2024-10-11T19:40:17Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> So basically, “Elites” are anyone who tells you to do something you don’t want to do? Evacuate? Screw you I’m staying put!

This seems to be a belief system for many. It reminds me of, during pro-Brexit campaigning, Michael Gove (former British Conservative MP) saying: “I think the people in this country have had enough of experts…”

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8404 "2024-10-11T19:41:41Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump is trying to win over Mormons - by selling them LDS-themed coffee mugs and beer can holders.

Well, they can always use the mugs for chicken soup and the beer can holders for cans of caffeine-free Coke.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8405 "2024-10-11T19:58:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Oklahoma state athletic commission can’t decide whether they want to allow transgender women to compete against cis women in professional wrestling - an activity which, as anyone over the age of 8 knows, is a predetermined performance art and not a real sport or competition.

It’s really weird that the State Athletic Commission has any say over what amounts to a circus performance.

If the AEW really wanted to ~~mess with heads~~ make a point, they should run a mixed pairs tag team match, then have the opponents swapping out cross gender.

Or get creative. Actual wrestling fans will have better ideas than me.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> If you tell someone who is facing an oncoming hurricane that FEMA is going to steal their property if they evacuate, and then they stay put and get killed, what have you gained?

As far as I know, no one has said that. The rumor is that if you reach out for assistance, FEMA will condemn and confiscate your property after the storm.

There is some basis for the rumor, but it’s not an accurate representation. There are federal programs to buy up flood prone properties and clear them to use a flood buffer space. FEMA and HUD do go in to frequently flooding areas and buy up the property.

The catch is that these programs are voluntary. No one is forced to comply.

There are also state programs in some areas.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8406 "2024-10-11T20:02:40Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> “Do your own research!” people are really bad at doing their own research.

That’s because “Do your own research!” actually means “Read things you already agree with.” Or, more likely, “Stick with whatever belief you like best, and don’t bother researching at all.”

Just this week, I saw a home improvement columnist write “Inflation is still raging out of control. I don’t care what the news says.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8407 "2024-10-11T20:04:18Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Or get creative. Actual wrestling fans will have better ideas than me.

“Murder Grampa” Minoru Suzuki vs. Maki Itoh rematch. They’ve both made appearances in AEW. It could happen.

> **[https://preview.redd.it/minoru-suzuki-vs-maki-itoh-announced-for-tjpws-grand-v0-...](https://preview.redd.it/minoru-suzuki-vs-maki-itoh-announced-for-tjpws-grand-v0-xi11toc7wujc1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a6fdc9852182f8b8a5afab695f9700407451afd2)**

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8408 "2024-10-11T20:16:48Z")

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> A man identifying himself only as Anthony called into Sirius XM’s “Dan Abrams Show” this week to share the story of his father-in-law, whose property near Ashville, North Carolina, was badly damaged by Helene. Despite the destruction, Anthony said his father-in-law is unwilling to accept assistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
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> “He has refused all FEMA help because he’s a hardcore Trumper,” Anthony told Abrams. “He literally believes that if he accepts anything from FEMA, they’re going to take his house.”

I wonder why this person called a radio show to share a story about a family member. I know nothing of Dan Abrams or his show. Would one of his listeners be more likely to think “my father in law is so mired in MAGAland that he’s refusing to accept help even when he’s waist-deep in flood water”, or “my father-in-law is my hero, sticking it to The Man who’s trying to push him off his land!”?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8409 "2024-10-11T20:19:30Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@Shoeless](#):
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> > I guess what I don’t understand about the right wing attacks on FEMA is what exactly are they trying to achieve?
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> Distrust in the government in general, and the Biden/Harris administration in particular.

The ultimate sources of a lot of disinformation are hostile foreign powers, who are also funding its amplification. Much of the American right wing has been coopted. The Americans aren’t doing it for any cogent reason except that they’re getting well reimbursed for it. The foreign powers are doing it to weaken the United States.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8410 "2024-10-11T20:20:20Z")

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His resume includes founding Mediaite and a stint as the head of MSNBC, so I’m guessing the former.

> **[Dan Abrams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Abrams)**
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> Daniel Abrams (born May 20, 1966) is an American media entrepreneur, television host, and author. He is currently the host of the prime-time show Dan Abrams Live on NewsNation, On Patrol: Live on Reelz and The Dan Abrams Show: Where Politics Meets The Law on SiriusXM's P.O.T.U.S. channel. He is also the Chief Legal Analyst of ABC News.
> Abrams was the host of Live PD on the A&E cable network and created and hosts Court Cam, a Law&Crime production on A&E. He was formerly an anchor of Nightline. ...

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8411 "2024-10-11T20:24:02Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> The Americans aren’t doing it for any cogent reason except that they’re getting well reimbursed for it. The foreign powers are doing it to weaken the United States.

While I’m sure this is true, I also think there are plenty of prominent right-wingers who genuinely believe the crap they peddle. 40+ years into the “government is the problem” era, at least two generations have grown up with the idea as a core belief.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8412 "2024-10-11T20:32:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> His resume includes founding Mediaite and a stint as the head of MSNBC, so I’m guessing the former.

Interesting; thanks. It’s still an unusual thing to call a radio show about. Nothing Abrams or his listeners do is going to change the father-in-law’s mind. And the MAGA faithful will rally around this guy and he’ll be driven deeper into the fold.

I think it’s a shame that someone is so divorced from reality to behave that way, but publicizing it doesn’t help end it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8413 "2024-10-11T20:49:59Z")

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Maybe it’s a warning to others to intervene if they see someone they care about spouting this nonsense, before they do something stupid. It’s easy to presume all MAGAts are unreachable, as that’s the image they project, but maybe some are reachable with the right intervention.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8414 "2024-10-12T01:25:11Z")

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> **[‘It’s mindblowing’: US meteorologists face death threats as hurricane...](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/meteorologists-death-threats-hurricane-conspiracies-misinformation)**
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> Storms Helene and Milton have triggered rise of misinformation stoked by Trump and fellow Republicans

I just can’t…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8415 "2024-10-12T01:36:22Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Yeah but, it seems like they’re also likely to kill off some their base.

If they die after they’ve voted, no problem. If they die before they’ve voted, surely someone can cast their vote for them and thus no problem.

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> If I have MAGA relatives in the area, I’d be angry if they were killed because their MAGA leaders told them to ride out the hurricane.

They’ll be upset too, but since they’re not rational like you, they’ll be mad at the wrong people.

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> The only motivation I can come up with for what they’re doing is that, since the hurricanes and the evacuation order weren’t their idea, they’re against it. Just standard, off the shelf, ‘dems like it so we’re against it’ stuff. No different than vaccines or masks or whatever.

As I just said, they’re not rational.

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> caffeine-free Coke

Just a note: Caffinated sodas are not considered a violation of the Word of Wisdom. [Even BYU sells caffinated sodas.](https://www.deseret.com/2017/9/21/20620044/byu-selling-caffeinated-soft-drinks-on-campus/) (The link goes to _Deseret News_.)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8416 "2024-10-12T01:38:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Even BYU sells caffinated sodas.

I’m sure BYU’s anthropology department also doesn’t teach that the Americas were first populated by Canaanites in 2000 BC or that differing skin tones are the result of divine curses or that Bigfoot was present at fhe crucifixion of Jesus, either.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8417 "2024-10-12T01:51:12Z")

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@Smapti Your link has the church’s name spelled wrong a number of times. I’m surprised _Raw Story_ did that, but of course am not surprised at all the melon felon (aka MF) and his crew did.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8418 "2024-10-12T03:04:41Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Your link has the church’s name spelled wrong a number of times.

What’s the misspelling?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8419 "2024-10-12T04:35:51Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > If I have MAGA relatives in the area, I’d be angry if they were killed because their MAGA leaders told them to ride out the hurricane.
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> They’ll be upset too, but since they’re not rational like you, they’ll be mad at the wrong people.

Dead people are not really upset. They are just dead.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8420 "2024-10-12T06:28:00Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > Your link has the church’s name spelled wrong a number of times.
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> What’s the misspelling?

The correct spelling is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The misspelling has Latter-Day. Details, people; details! 😃

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Dead people are not really upset. They are just dead.

But we’re not talking about the dead magaflatearthers. We’re talking about the dead magaflatearthers’ relatives.

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