# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 422
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8421 "2024-10-12T14:11:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > > > If I have MAGA relatives in the area, I’d be angry if they were killed because their MAGA leaders told them to ride out the hurricane. > > > > They’ll be upset too, but since they’re not rational like you, they’ll be mad at the wrong people. > > Dead people are not really upset. They are just dead. > [@Monty](#): > > But we’re not talking about the dead magaflatearthers. We’re talking about the dead magaflatearthers’ relatives. How are the MAGA politicians putting my hypothetical family members in danger, going to get my vote? “My”, referring to people that were undecided and/or weren’t planning to vote? Putting your constituents in harm’s way isn’t likely to earn you too many votes. I feel like anyone who would vote MAGA after their family members decided to ride out a hurricane on the advice on those same MAGA politicians was probably already going to vote that way. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8422 "2024-10-12T18:27:39Z")
The state of West Virginia will refuse to recognize the election of the Democrat candidate if the Republican candidate is the subject of legal actions that preclude their effective campaigning… Which is about what I expect from the “party of law and order.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8423 "2024-10-12T18:45:15Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Interesting; thanks. It’s still an unusual thing to call a radio show about. Nothing Abrams or his listeners do is going to change the father-in-law’s mind. And the MAGA faithful will rally around this guy and he’ll be driven deeper into the fold. I don’t think the caller wanted anyone to help solve his problems. He just wanted someone to listen and sympathize. It’s a very human need, and he might not have had anyone he knows in person who would be sympathetic. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8424 "2024-10-12T20:38:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > How are the MAGA politicians putting my hypothetical family members in danger, going to get my vote? “My”, referring to people that were undecided and/or weren’t planning to vote? … Simple. The family members wouldn’t have been in a position for the MAGA politicians to put them in danger if the Demonrats hadn’t conjured up the hurricane in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8425 "2024-10-13T10:08:49Z")
The choice this election cycle is simple, and I’ll spell it out for those of you who are blind to reality. On the one hand you have the Mighty Trump, Champion of the Common Man and MAGA Savior. On the other, according to televangelist Kenneth Copeland you have evil homosexual lesbian spirits. It’s a simple decision. [https://meidasnews.com/news/kenneth-copeland-homosexual-lesbian-spirits-must-be-defeated-in-election](https://meidasnews.com/news/kenneth-copeland-homosexual-lesbian-spirits-must-be-defeated-in-election) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8426 "2024-10-13T10:46:56Z")
As opposed to those heterosexual lesbian spirits? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8427 "2024-10-13T11:21:12Z")
[Evidently, Vance decided to run with, shall we say, an interesting rewording of his “childless cat lady” comment.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-childless-cat-ladies-women-climate-change-b2628318.html) (The link goes to _Independent_.) > [JD Vance](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/jd-vance) has said it is “deranged” and “very crazy” for women not to have children due to concerns about the climate crisis in his latest comments wading in on the choices of childfree Americans. & > “What I was definitely trying to illustrate ultimately in a very inarticulate way is that I do think that our country has become almost pathologically anti-child,” he said. No, you oatmeal-brained twerp, the country is not anti-child. _Your political party is._ [And speaking of saying dumb things…](https://us.yahoo.com/news/watch-jd-vance-makes-sick-141921355.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) > During a town hall in Greensboro, North Carolina, on Thursday, Vance made a weirdly hostile joke after a woman in the audience fell down, letting out a shriek of terror. > > Vance stood up and walked over to see what had happened, while security rushed to her. “We OK?” Vance [asked](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1844511201327190081?s=46&t=CIY7fYccGpYmPpiAuYI8fQ). There was a moment of silence and awkward laughter from the crowd. > > “Kamala Harris built this platform behind us, that’s what happened,” Vance joked, and the audience started to laugh and clap. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8428 "2024-10-13T12:09:58Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > No, you oatmeal-brained twerp, the country is not anti-child. _Your political party is._ It’s like the people who complain about how Christmas is so secularized now because they don’t go to church any more. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8429 "2024-10-13T12:25:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > No, you oatmeal-brained twerp, the country is not anti-child. _Your political party is._ Eggs-zackly. They’re anti-child but _pro-fetus_. Once that child is born, it’s on its own. And the parents better not expect any special treatment either. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8430 "2024-10-13T12:46:43Z")
What if humans laid eggs? Would they be pro-shell? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8431 "2024-10-13T13:54:24Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Eggs-zackly. They’re anti-child but _pro-fetus_. Once that child is born, it’s on its own. And the parents better not expect any special treatment either. They’re not even pro-fetus. They’re pro-_suffering_, but not _their_ suffering. The fetus is merely the weapon of choice to inflict that suffering on certain people. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8432 "2024-10-13T16:07:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “What I was definitely trying to illustrate ultimately in a very inarticulate way is that I do think that our country has become almost pathologically anti-child,” he said. You know who else is a “childless cat lady”? Senator Lindsey Graham. Hey, he raised his younger sister after they’re parents died. She said she thinks of him as part mother. > **[Lindsey Graham](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Graham)** > > Lindsey Olin Graham (/ɡræm/; born July 9, 1955) is an American lawyer and politician serving as the senior United States senator from South Carolina, a seat he has held since 2003. A member of the Republican Party, Graham chaired the Senate Committee on the Judiciary from 2019 to 2021. > A native of Central, South Carolina, Graham received his Juris Doctor degree from the University of South Carolina School of Law in 1981. Most of his active duty during his military service happened from 1982 t... ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8433 "2024-10-13T17:09:18Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > You know who else is a “childless cat lady”? Senator Lindsey Graham. Childless cat’s ladybugs? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8434 "2024-10-13T17:33:35Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > On the other, according to televangelist Kenneth Copeland you have evil homosexual lesbian spirits. He forgot Marxist, Socialist, and Communist. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8435 "2024-10-13T18:52:08Z")
I just want to point out, I don’t know or assume Graham is gay. He says he isn’t, and I don’t care except when a politician makes a point of being against homosexuality while being closeted. Then it’s the hypocrisy that bugs me. But my point was calling out Vance for his sexism as much as his party hypocrisy. Notice that his rant is against childless cat _ladies_. Notice his focus on _women_ who don’t have children. But he has nothing to say against men who don’t have children or aren’t married, or on this topic are gay. Somehow he blames women for choosing not to have children, but did he say anything, ever, about men who don’t have children? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8436 "2024-10-13T18:58:43Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I don’t know or assume Graham is gay. He says he isn’t, and I don’t care except when a politician makes a point of being against homosexuality while being closeted. He voted for DOMA, against repealing DADT, and in favor of a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage AND civil unions, has argued as recently as 2022 that Obergefell should be reversed, and says “religious liberty” justifies discriminating against gays. He’s fair game. > **[Vote Smart | Facts For All](https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/21992/lindsey-graham/102/marriage)** > > Vote Smart provides free, unbiased, in-depth information about current officials, candidates, issues, legislation, and voting. Non-partisan and nonprofit since 1988. [https://www.axios.com/2022/08/07/lindsey-graham-same-sex-marriage-states](https://www.axios.com/2022/08/07/lindsey-graham-same-sex-marriage-states) [https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/graham-campaign-press-release-nbcs-meet-the-press-graham-says-he-wants-protect-the](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/graham-campaign-press-release-nbcs-meet-the-press-graham-says-he-wants-protect-the) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8437 "2024-10-13T19:34:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Just a note: Caffinated sodas are not considered a violation of the Word of Wisdom. [Even BYU sells caffinated sodas.](https://www.deseret.com/2017/9/21/20620044/byu-selling-caffeinated-soft-drinks-on-campus/) (The link goes to _Deseret News_.) They certainly used to be, or were so considered by many people when I lived out in SLC. There was a Pat Bagley cartoon that showed someone – presumably a minister - going up to a Coke machine and saying “Heal!”, and suddenly the Coke machine read “Caffeine-free Coke”. They also said that BYU started putting in Coke machines after decaffeinated Coke came out. And, yeah, I know the Word of Wisdom doesn’t say a thing about caffeine. But I’m sure you know the history of popular interpretation of the WoW as well as or better than I do. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8438 "2024-10-13T19:55:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He’s fair game. Except I have nothing to go on except his mannerisms and tone of voice, and his lack of being married. I’m not going to start rumors based on that. If he’s found with his pants down in an airport restroom (like some other political figures), or he’s caught with a dick in his mouth, I’ll concede he’s a bit gay. Otherwise, I have no reason to infer or imply he is. (Notice I’ve tried to avoid negative language like “accuse”, because that implies being gay is wrong, and I don’t support that view.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8439 "2024-10-13T20:09:50Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Except I have nothing to go on except his mannerisms and tone of voice, and his lack of being married. The “Lady G” rumors strike me as credible. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/8440 "2024-10-13T20:48:16Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Childless cat’s ladybugs? Ladybugs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=421) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=423)