# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/881 "2023-08-30T15:03:30Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> “Your leaders are surrendering again. How many times do you want to do this?”

Yeah, @Akaj so I change my own post.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/882 "2023-08-30T15:04:31Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@enipla](#):
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> > Your leaders are surrendering in Atlanta again. How many times do you want to do this?”
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> But didn’t the first insurrection’s leaders actually surrender in Appomattox, Virginia?

Forget it, he’s rolling. /literary allusion.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/883 "2023-08-30T15:10:11Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Forget it, he’s rolling. /literary allusion.

Yeah, like when the GOP bombed Pearl Harbor.

Hey, they can make shit up, so can we.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/884 "2023-08-30T15:18:24Z")

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Appomatox was the final surrender, but there was a [surrender of the city of Atlanta by Major General Slocum](https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/surrender-atlanta) so I think its still technically correct.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/885 "2023-08-30T15:37:06Z")

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Would that make the Civil War the First Reich?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/886 "2023-08-30T15:43:03Z")

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So much surrendering! Are you getting tired of all this surrendering?

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/887 "2023-08-30T15:50:26Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Forget it, he’s rolling. /literary allusion.

“Literary”?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/888 "2023-08-30T16:00:34Z")

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Are you suggesting it’s a long way from literary?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/889 "2023-08-30T16:14:45Z")

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Ooofff. Good one. 😃

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/890 "2023-08-30T21:19:26Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Are you suggesting it’s a long way from literary?

_but my heart’s right there_

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/891 "2023-08-31T01:58:49Z")

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Yeah, but what about their _dogs_?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/892 "2023-08-31T03:14:34Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> Would that make the Civil War the First Reich?

You jest, but there are nasty historical and influencer connections to the fascist regimes that appeared later in Europe.

> **[Analysis | Worshiping the Confederacy is about white supremacy — even the...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/17/worshiping-the-confederacy-is-about-white-supremacy-even-the-nazis-thought-so/)**
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> Confederate memory nurtured fascism.

> Nazis themselves saw a clear line from their own beliefs to those of the antebellum South. Although Hitler took a decidedly negative view of the United States, attributing its economic woes in the 1930s to its allegedly degraded racial stock, he believed a Confederate victory would have set the country on a proper course. “The beginnings of a great new social order based on the principle of slavery and inequality,” he explained in 1933 to a fellow Nazi leader, “were destroyed” when the South lost the Civil War. Northern victory ushered a “corrupt caste of tradesmen” into power and hastened the condition of racial “decay.” It also destroyed the possibility that a “truly great America” ruled “by a real Herren-class” might have emerged, casting aside “all the falsities of liberty and equality.”

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/893 "2023-08-31T19:12:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> You jest, but there are nasty historical and influencer connections to the fascist regimes that appeared later in Europe.

Who says i was jesting? While I wasn’t specifically aware of Hitler’s thoughts on the CSA as explained in your cite, I was drawing a parallel to the CSA as the first stage of the white supremacy movement that continued with the Jim Crow South and KKK revival (which was when many of the Confederate monuments were built, not immediately after the Civil War), and which are now a mainstay, if not overtly stated, in today’s GOP.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/894 "2023-08-31T22:48:17Z")

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Nebraska’s governor has signed an executive order declaring that men are “bigger, stronger, and faster” than women. 🙄

> **[Nebraska governor signs executive order defining men as "bigger, stronger and...](https://boingboing.net/2023/08/31/nebraska-governor-signs-executive-order-defining-men-as-bigger-stronger-and-faster.html)**
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> Nebraska governor Jim Pillen, a Republican not noted as a women’s rights supporter, yesterday issued an executive order “defining” males and females and the attributes thereof. Th…

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/895 "2023-08-31T23:05:43Z")

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I could take him.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/896 "2023-08-31T23:17:54Z")

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So if there happened to be a woman who was bigger, faster, and stronger than the governor (I’m pretty sure several someones like this could easily be found in any town of any reasonable size), in the eyes of Nebraska, she is considered a man? I thought the Pubbies were against that sort of thing?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/897 "2023-08-31T23:25:21Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Nebraska’s governor has signed an executive order declaring that men are “bigger, stronger, and faster” than women

Who does he think he is, Andy Kaufman?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/898 "2023-08-31T23:37:22Z")

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Loser Donald’s deposition in the NY case took seven hours because he has the right to remain silent but not the ability and keot going on irrelevant tangents about his big beautiful buildings.

> **[Trump rambled so much in a NY fraud-case deposition, a lawyer griped, 'we're...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rambled-fraud-deposition-lawyer-well-be-here-all-night-2023-8)**
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> Trump went on – and on – about his marble bathrooms while being deposed in NY Attorney General Letitia James' fraud lawsuit, a new transcript shows.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/899 "2023-08-31T23:37:32Z")

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Vince, his Starbucks name, is off the rails. I know he’s just doing it for airtime; getting in the news with shock bullshit.

> **[Ramaswamy Pledges To Give Russia All Territory It’s Taken From Ukraine and...](https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ramaswamy-pledges-to-give-russia-all-territory-its-taken-from-ukraine-and-claims-the-u-s-bombed-the-nord-stream-pipelines/)**
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> Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said if he is elected, he would propose a plan to let Russia keep all territory the country has taken since it invaded Ukraine unprovoked in February 2022.

Maybe he’ll start writing love letters to Pooptin; sounds like a romance.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/900 "2023-09-01T00:10:10Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> So if there happened to be a woman who was bigger, faster, and stronger than the governor (I’m pretty sure several someones like this could easily be found in any town of any reasonable size), in the eyes of Nebraska, she is considered a man? I thought the Pubbies were against that sort of thing?

What he [actually wrote](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23932489-eo-no-23-16-establishing-a-womens-bill-of-rights#document/p2/a2381018) is not quite as egregous as the article makes it sound.

In the text of the order he says (underlining mine)

> biological differences between the sexes mean that males are, on average, bigger, stronger, and faster than females;

which is probably accurate if not particularly relevent to the issue of transgendered individuals.

More egregiously he states

> a “female” is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to produce ova; a “male” is an individual whose biological reproductive system is developed to fertilize the ova ofa female;

Which basically leaves as genderless anyone who has reproductive issues.

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