# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9141 "2024-11-22T23:45:15Z")

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> [@Running\_with\_Scissors](#):
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> As far as I’ve been able to tell based on Republican behavior, “woke” means treating people different from you with respect.

That’s how I see it. And frankly I don’t care if your different. Why should I? Doesn’t affect me one bit.

Bigoty is an odd thing. I would go so far as calling it a disease. And as we have seen you can ‘catch’ it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9142 "2024-11-22T23:52:32Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Woke is what they used to call PC. Simple terminology for the terminally simple.

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Woke is weaponized PC. PC was always treated as just something of an annoyance. Those stupid snowflake liberals who can’t take a joke are ruining anything fun.
> 
> Woke is a threat to everything you know, forcibly changing the sex of your kids, and making being white or Christian illegal.

Did y’all see [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-you-whine-about-political-correctness-youre-a-bigot/725671) I posted nine years ago? Here are the title and my OP there:

> **If you whine about political correctness, you’r a bigot**
> 
> Seriously. Maybe I’ve just missed it, but I don’t think so. Every freaking time I hear someone bitching about “political correctness” it’s to make a bigoted comment or to bitch about the person they’re accusing of being “PC” or “Liberal” is being “too soft” on someone the accuser hates–and that hatred based usually on prejudice.
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> So, let me lay it out for you bigoted jackasses:
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> Treating Blacks just like you treat Whites isn’t PC: it’s the right thing to do.  
> Treating Muslims like you treat any other people isn’t PC: it’s the right thing to do.  
> Treating immigrants like you treat any other people is’t PC: it’s the right thing to do.  
> Treating all people like people isn’t PC: it’s the right thing to do.
> 
> So, if you’re ready to whine more–in real life or on a message board–about someone being PC, shut the fuck up! More likely than not, you’ve already shown yourself to be a jackass; no need to add more proof.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9143 "2024-11-22T23:55:56Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> A couple of years ago, a reporter posed this exact question to the esteemed GOP speaker of the Kansas HOR, Dan Hawkins. He told the reporter to Google it.

Worse was that time a woman who wrote _a whole book_ largely about the horrors of woke but couldn’t define it in an interview.

> **[Anti-Woke Book's Author Humiliated, Can’t Define ‘Woke’ in Interview](https://www.advocate.com/media/conservative-author-cant-woke)**
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> Republicans don’t know what the word means, but they know they hate everything having to do with it.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9144 "2024-11-23T01:51:22Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Worse was that time a woman who wrote _a whole book_ largely about the horrors of woke but couldn’t define it in an interview.

I remember that one. It’s similar in some regards to the people who are against the teaching of “CRT” to elementary school kids but don’t have any idea what CRT is (Critical Race Theory) or where it is actually offered as a course (AIUI, in law schools).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9145 "2024-11-23T02:00:06Z")

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They do know what “Critical Race Theory” is. It’s anything that acknowledges the existence of racism, now or at any point in history.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9146 "2024-11-23T02:38:06Z")

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Specifically any kind of discussion/ lesson that casts a negative light on anything shitty that European colonizers did, or are continuing to do towards non European people. This also applies towards animals and the environment too.

And being told/ made to be extra sensitive and deferential towards other people that have historically been oppressed by their ancestors.

They don’t want their children to come home and have uncomfortable conversations that make their mom and dad feel ashamed of themselves and their families history. or contradict their own beliefs of what happened in the past.

Part of learning about history is acknowledging that your parents, grandparents or their parents and grandparents, and others like them were ass holes that perpetrated a lot suffering on others.

It is awkward to come to terms with that fact but, it needs to be done.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9147 "2024-11-23T03:16:31Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> They do know what “Critical Race Theory” is. It’s anything that acknowledges the existence of racism, now or at any point in history.

That might be giving some MAGAs too much credit. This is anecdotal, but I watched a video of a guy being interviewed and he had no idea what CRT was, but he sure as hell didn’t want it taught to the kids. It was ruining America!

The interviewer tried to get the guy to give any sort of definition of CRT but he couldn’t. Seemed to me to be a case of a guy parroting right-wing talking points uncritically and without even understanding them. His favorite news sources said it was bad and that’s all he needed to form an opinion.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9148 "2024-11-23T03:50:24Z")

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Let’s also not forget that the guy who managed to get CRT into the popular vernacular admitted on TV that he knew it wasn’t something being taught in schools but it would work well as a boogieman to rally people against. (Obviously paraphrasing)

I won’t cite it here, as it’s a hijack into old ground, but I’m mentioning it because the general public not having a good idea of what it is, was a lot of the point of invoking it in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9149 "2024-11-23T04:00:10Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> His favorite news sources said it was bad and that’s all he needed to form an opinion.

Parrot an opinion. There’s no forming of opinion in their minds.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9150 "2024-11-23T05:04:38Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Parrot an opinion. There’s no forming of opinion in their minds.

They _have_ an opinion of their own. Someone told them it’s bad, someone told them the liberals want it, someone told them the democrats are coming for them. That’s enough to form an opinion.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9151 "2024-11-23T17:50:49Z")

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But, but, what about “bleein’ heart liberals”? They’re an aberration _too_, yaknow!

> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Bad move. You don’t fuck around with [Mo Green](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/20/arts/20ROCCO-obit/20ROCCO-obit-superJumbo.jpg).

No kidding. Maurice’s playwriting, however…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dXActCkGBMM/maxresdefault.jpg "SCTV - Extreme Close Up - Dave Thomas, Harold Ramis") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXActCkGBMM)

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9152 "2024-11-23T21:07:50Z")

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But Mo Green was kidnapped by the Leutonian Liberation Army, and they changed his name.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9153 "2024-11-23T21:15:21Z")

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The irony is that, if the modern white people didn’t identify with the slavers and traitors, they wouldn’t feel bad about hearing about history. It’s white identity that’s the problem, not the history lessons.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The irony is that, if the modern white people didn’t identify with the slavers and traitors, they wouldn’t feel bad about hearing about history.

Is it really about them personally feeling bad?

I always thought it was, like, a step removed: that, say, they’re contemplating a time when talk of reparations might be the order of the day — at which point slavers are going to get mentioned, and various people will get associated with ‘em — and, when that time comes, they don’t want someone _else_ identifying them with folks who should’ve coughed up money then, in an effort to have modern white people cough up money now, or some such.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9155 "2024-11-24T02:26:18Z")

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[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/bd05da4f-4688-4f22-92ef-c718920bca38) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/bd05da4f-4688-4f22-92ef-c718920bca38)

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Is it really about them personally feeling bad?

To defer to Bob Dylan;

> [@](#):
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> South politician preaches to the poor white man  
> "You got more than the blacks, don’t complain  
> You’re better than them, you been born with white skin, " they explain  
> And the Negro’s name  
> Is used, it is plain  
> For the politician’s gain  
> As he rises to fame  
> And the poor white remains  
> On the caboose of the train  
> But it ain’t him to blame  
> He’s only a pawn in their game

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9157 "2024-11-25T00:33:44Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Is it really about them personally feeling bad?

Yes, it’s really about them feeling bad, or at least thinking they are being told they are bad for being the descendants of a slave-owning society and a Jim Crow society.

It’s about pointing out that the Founding Fathers had a lot of great talk about equality and liberty but owned slaves, and how that makes it difficult to celebrate America’s founding because it wasn’t universally good.

“Stop telling me that, I don’t want to hear that. Stop bringing up the Native Americans whenever Columbus is mentioned.”

“Stop complaining that the South was fighting for slavery, they just wanted local control, and they were proud Americans who fought for their beliefs. We can honor them for that without actually acknowledging what those beliefs were.”

“Stop making my children think it’s bad to be white.”

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“It’s all about me” is the sentiment behind a large percentage of terrible stuff.

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I believe the exact tune is something like “I didn’t do those things, so why should I feel guilty?”

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9160 "2024-11-25T10:26:23Z")

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To which the obvious reply is, “Do you feel guilty? If not, what is the problem?”

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