# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 474
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9461 "2024-12-23T00:52:18Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Someone in one of my neighborhood facebook groups found a bunch of these. No idea what’s in them, but it appears to be rat poison. More of these showed up in a nearby(ish) county. This time apparently targeting white people. Targeting white people as in 'hey, white people, help us get rid of the others". The article shows two bags with two different things. One bag has those same wood pellet/rat poison things, the other has, what appear to be castor beans (which contain ricin\*). Interestingly, the person interviewed in the article suggested that might just be to weigh the bags down so they don’t blow away. But a few rocks would do that, and they’re free (which also means no history of purchasing them). [![](https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f24fd6b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4032x3024+0+0/resize/2560x1920!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fewscripps-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F95%2Faf%2F1b9f513a4c569b826cbb52e5ab0a%2Fimg-0392.jpg) ](https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/f24fd6b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4032x3024+0+0/resize/2560x1920!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fewscripps-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F95%2Faf%2F1b9f513a4c569b826cbb52e5ab0a%2Fimg-0392.jpg) > **[‘It’s disgusting’: Mukwonago residents find Neo-nazi flyers in their...](https://www.tmj4.com/news/waukesha-county/its-disgusting-mukwonago-residents-find-neo-nazi-flyers-in-their-neighborhood)** > > Residents in a Mukwonago neighborhood woke up to flyers strewn across their sidewalks and driveways Saturday morning — flyers with white supremacist messaging. \*To be courteous, before anyone jumps in with a tv show reference, lets not spoil anything. (If you know you know, if you don’t, it’s entirely unrelated to this news story). ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9462 "2024-12-23T00:56:00Z")
And those are distinguishable from the 2025 Republicant platform how? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9463 "2024-12-23T01:40:10Z")
On the last two census forms I submitted, I listed myself as “other”, because “White” s no longer an ethnicity, it is an ideology. I am pure North Sea heritage, and I want nothing to do with White people. Fuck those assholes. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9464 "2024-12-23T15:40:20Z")
i mostly check other and write in human. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9465 "2024-12-23T15:44:16Z")
Descended from mixed-race ancestors on both sides, ancestors from 4 continents, for race I write “indeterminate.” The most honest answer I can give. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9466 "2024-12-23T17:03:15Z")
I put white because its important for the census to have this sort of information so that it can accurately document the extent to which racial inequality exists across the country. I don’t want the U.S. to be the sort of entity that goes around saying “[I don’t see color](https://www.forbes.com/sites/danabrownlee/2022/06/19/dear-white-people-when-you-say-you-dont-see-color-this-is-what-we-really-hear/)”. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9467 "2024-12-23T17:16:29Z")
“I don’t see color” is a silly thing to say. I definitely “see” color, which allows me to celebrate diversity and try to understand how we are different. Not “seeing color” is a way of saying that we should all be homogenous, which would not be a good thing, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9468 "2024-12-23T17:29:18Z")
But by listing your race as “other”, you’re causing the Census and institutions that depend on its data to “not see color”. Which is probably more important than whether individuals see color. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9469 "2024-12-23T17:32:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Not “seeing color” is a way of saying that we should all be homogenous, which would not be a good thing, IMO. But its also a way to pretend systemic racism doesn’t exist. Now that we are all the same race we don’t have to talk about any existing inequality. Problem solved. If everyone just put “human” as a answer to the question about race, then we wouldn’t [know](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/annual-report-shows-systemic-racism-continues-to-bring-down-black-peoples-quality-of-life) that black people have 2/3 of the median income that whites do, have on average a 4 year shorter life span, are 59% more likely to die in child birth, and 31% more likely to die of breast cancer. We also wouldn’t know that despite claims to the contrary they are no more likely to overdose on drugs than whites. These are important pieces of information that we need to know and will exist whether or not we try to pretend that there is no such thing a race. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9470 "2024-12-23T18:04:33Z")
Musk Ox probably wrote that. Trump is too monosyllabic to say “magnanimous gesture” on his own. [Who would use such a phrase?](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1849719448229281921) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9471 "2024-12-23T23:22:16Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “White” s no longer an ethnicity, it is an ideology. I hadn’t seen this put so succinctly before. > [@DesertDog](#): > > So, how many floors does the memory care facility have? I bet her family never thought of that possibility. > [@Smapti](#): > > The Annoying Orange is demanding that Panama give the Canal Zone back to the US. Two days later, CNN and MSNBC are still chomping on that bait–having completely forgotten the “President Musk” story. And it’s not as though this was a brilliant new move on Trump’s part. Anytime he wants to change the conversation he says something outrageous—and it WORKS. Perfectly and completely. “Buy Greenland”/“terminate the Constitution”/“[anything] Hannibal Lector”…they _always_ fall for it. #PresidentMusk ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9472 "2024-12-23T23:50:17Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Gibson sent the lincensee company a cease-and-desist. Big difference. He’s hawking the Gibson clones on Truth Social again today. I guess it is good to be the king. How can he be sued? He can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9473 "2024-12-24T01:34:32Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Two days later, CNN and MSNBC are still chomping on that bait–having completely forgotten the “President Musk” story. > > And it’s not as though this was a brilliant new move on Trump’s part. Anytime he wants to change the conversation he says something outrageous—and it WORKS. Perfectly and completely. “Buy Greenland”/“terminate the Constitution”/“[anything] Hannibal Lector”…they _always_ fall for it. I agree about the trivial deflection to buying greenland, and the media running off and to chase the squirrel. I mean, he said _the exact same BS_ in the first term; we’re very much in “shame on me” territory for the press. (Don’t get me wrong; I know this term will be much worse than the first one, but Trump also says a lot of things without follow up, and he clearly has no idea how to begin implementing any of these “command the seas” wild plans) However, I also don’t see much value in leaning into the Musk antagonism. Either Musk will overstep the boundaries, or he won’t. If we find it fun to take the piss, then fine, but I don’t see our poking changing anything. It reminds me a bit of the Lincoln Project ads. Some of the LP ads were great, but far too many were just about teasing Trump. Yeah Trump’s thin-skinned, but he’ll just tweet about it a million times. And I don’t see that they would have won any hearts or minds (obviously this is not an objective now though). ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9474 "2024-12-24T07:50:37Z")
The Trump-baiting ones weren’t intended to change anyone’s mind but rather yank his nibs’ chain. IIRC they were paid for in markets covering Mar-a-Lago and NYC. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9475 "2024-12-24T16:23:57Z")
It just occurred to me that Trump has most likely never seen anything besides the Mercator projection map version of Greenland. It’s so bigly! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9476 "2024-12-24T20:54:43Z")
He also probably thinks “Greenland!” vacation paradise, and lots of room for farming! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9477 "2024-12-24T21:16:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > He also probably thinks “Greenland!” vacation paradise, and lots of room for farming Beachfront property around the whole thing! Nobody ever thought of putting condos on all that beach. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9478 "2024-12-24T22:57:27Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > And I don’t see that they would have won any hearts or minds (obviously this is not an objective now though). > [@DesertDog](#): > > The Trump-baiting ones weren’t intended to change anyone’s mind but rather yank his nibs’ chain. IIRC they were paid for in markets covering Mar-a-Lago and NYC. ^ Yeah, that. Of course there’s no way to be certain about the effectiveness of playing on Trump’s insecurities—but a lot of reasonable people believe that Steve Bannon was exiled from The Presence in the first go-round due to all the public discussion of him being the mind behind the puppet. So, the thinking goes, Trump is indeed easy to manipulate. (And it’s not as if Musk’s presence at Trump’s side is _good_ for the USA.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9479 "2024-12-25T02:30:17Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > It just occurred to me that Trump has most likely never seen anything besides the Mercator projection map version of Greenland. It’s so bigly! Bingo. > [@](#): > > Mr. Trump later claimed the idea was his personal inspiration. “I said, ‘Why don’t we have that?’” he recalled in an interview last year for the book. “You take a look at a map. I’m a real estate developer. I look at a corner, I say, ‘I’ve got to get that store for the building that I’m building,’ etc. It’s not that different.” > > He added: “I love maps. And I always said: ‘Look at the size of this. It’s massive. That should be part of the United States.’” > **[Opinion | What's really behind Trump's Greenland obsession](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna185272)** > > The president-elect's desire to acquire the Danish territory reportedly came from the most predictable, and ridiculous, of sources. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/9480 "2024-12-25T02:56:17Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And it’s not as if Musk’s presence at Trump’s side is _good_ for the USA. He’s one alien I could get behind deporting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=473) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588.md?page=475)