# NEW Stupid Republican Idea of the Day (Part 3)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 4, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588 "2023-07-04T21:42:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1841 "2023-11-01T11:49:20Z")

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Oh no! Not woke math in their textbooks! How will our children learn 2+2 while being decent people? It’s impossible!

> **[Janelle Stecklein: Sudden exodus of textbook publishers should alarm Oklahomans](https://www.chickashanews.com/oklahoma/opinion/janelle-stecklein-sudden-exodus-of-textbook-publishers-should-alarm-oklahomans/article_4e4ae4b9-dd13-51a3-b1c4-5af81e89b881.html)**
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> Parents, business owners and taxpayers should be alarmed that qualified math textbook publishers no longer want to do business in Oklahoma.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1842 "2023-11-01T12:21:50Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The head of the North Dakota QOP has resigned after saying that black people should go back to Wakanda.

To quote from your link:

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> According to reporter Rob Port, Roetman made “dozens and dozens of ignorant social media posts,” including comments leering at scantily clad or undressed women; jokes about women making sandwiches; and a suggestion that Black people should get out of America and move to Wakanda, the fictional East African kingdom that was the setting for Black Panther.

“Leering at scantily clad or undressed women” – Okay, I can see the problem there.  
“a suggestion that Black people should get out of America and move to Wakanda” – undeniably racist

“jokes about women making sandwiches” ???

I’m missing something. Maybe it’s because I don’t know any jokes about women making sandwiches. Or that the only risque thing that comes to mind is something like “he made a sandwich with Sofia Vergara and Nicki Minaj”, where the women bracket the guy.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1843 "2023-11-01T12:24:38Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’m missing something. Maybe it’s because I don’t know any jokes about women making sandwiches. Or that the only risque thing that comes to mind is something like “he made a sandwich with Sofia Vergara and Nicki Minaj”, where the women bracket the guy.

It’s a thing, I saw it with the older men on a conservative skewed woodworking forum I used to be on, to tell women to go make a sandwich, basically, get in the kitchen and serve the guy saying it. There were those that thought it was the peak of humour.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1844 "2023-11-01T12:39:04Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’m missing something. Maybe it’s because I don’t know any jokes about women making sandwiches.

It’s a meme, often “Shut up [b\*\*\*\*] and make me a sandwich”. The idea being that uppity women should know their place. I’d like to think it’s more often used ironically to _mock_ sexism and misogyny, but maybe that’s wishful thinking.

I quite like the gay female couple with deeply troubled looks on their faces captioned “what will we do with all the sandwiches?”

[Make Me a Sandwich | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/make-me-a-sandwich)

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1845 "2023-11-01T13:01:37Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The head of the North Dakota QOP

I’d like to thank you for using QOP instead of GQP. It is my preferred form - the overall fight was lost long ago, but I think it is easier to type (YMMV), say (YMMV), and gives the Q pride of place.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1846 "2023-11-01T13:12:44Z")

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> [@FordPrefect](#):
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> It’s a thing, I saw it with the older men on a conservative skewed woodworking forum I used to be on, to tell women to go make a sandwich, basically, get in the kitchen and serve the guy saying it. There were those that thought it was the peak of humour.

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> It’s a meme, often “Shut up [b\*\*\*\*] and make me a sandwich”. The idea being that uppity women should know their place. I’d like to think it’s more often used ironically to _mock_ sexism and misogyny, but maybe that’s wishful thinking.

Ah, I see. I’d heard about that, but wouldn’t describe it as a “joke”. But it’s fully as offensive as the other items cited, I agree.

Regarding its origin – I’m certain that it predates the 1995 SNL skit mentioned in **Reimann** ’s cite. In the first place, that use doesn’t make any sense unless the meme was already well-established. But I know I saw a cartoon – in the _New Yorker_ , no less – in which a writer’s-blocked writer is leaning on his desk and typewriter at a beach bungalow while his girlfriend or wife stands behind him with a plate bearing a sandwich. The dialogue below the cartoon has her suggesting he write about his being unable to write and always asking his wife/girlfriend to make him sandwiches. Then says “here’s your sandwich”.

– CalMeacham, who, too the best of his recollection, has never asked his wife to make him a sandwich.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1847 "2023-11-01T14:56:00Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> CalMeacham, who, too the best of his recollection, has never asked his wife to make him a sandwich.

I think, though that what makes this a sexist meme is the _order_ by the husband for the wife to make a sandwich.

As often as not, it is paired with the woman asserting her own agency in some way, at which point the order follows. It’s a way of keeping the woman “in her place” in the sexist viewpoint - “what you just said doesn’t matter, now go wait on me hand and foot.”

- SunUp, who has _asked_ his wife to make a sandwich for him on occasion when pressed for time, but would never dream of making that an _order_.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1848 "2023-11-01T16:23:02Z")

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Just gonna leave this here…

> **[Teen posts "I made you a sandwich" to trolls after skiing to South Pole](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jade-hameister-teen-skier-posts-i-made-you-a-sandwich-to-trolls-after-skiing-to-south-pole/)**
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> Jade Hameister, 16, is the youngest person to ever pull off the "Polar Hat Trick," or visiting the North and South Poles on skis

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> I made you a sandwich (ham & cheese), now ski 37 days and 600km to the South Pole and you can eat it.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1849 "2023-11-01T17:41:39Z")

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Excellent!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1850 "2023-11-01T18:30:50Z")

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That’s awesome!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1851 "2023-11-01T19:14:55Z")

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Hahahah. That’s great.

Married 26 years. I told my wife to do something exactly once (not an order). I told her to “Pack me a bag”. I was on the phone and just discovered that my mother was in the hospital - ER. It was 8pm and I had yet to get the details and I had 100 mile mountain drive ahead of me as soon as I hung up.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1852 "2023-11-01T22:16:52Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> - SunUp, who has _asked_ his wife to make a sandwich for him on occasion when pressed for time, but would never dream of making that an _order_.

Also:

> **[Sandwich](https://xkcd.com/149/)**
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> Proper User Policy apparently means Simon Says.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1853 "2023-11-01T22:28:14Z")

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I don’t get it.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1854 "2023-11-01T22:32:27Z")

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It’s a Linux joke - “sudo” is a powerful command that enables users to run commands with elevated privileges like a superuser.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1855 "2023-11-01T22:40:01Z")

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Please might have worked. On me anyway.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1856 "2023-11-01T22:52:54Z")

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Of course, it’s a bit ironic in that you only use “sudo” in situations where you _can’t_ do something yourself, with your own level of privilege. So telling someone to make it themselves is a nonstarter; rather, sudo grants you the privilege to do something yourself, not to tell another entity (process?) to do it for you.

I will stop now before I try to overexplain the setuid bit.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1857 "2023-11-01T23:29:03Z")

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A town in New Hampshire is considering banning art - all of it - from public display because one of the town councilors belives that rainbows grant power to Ishtar, who was able to return to our realm because of the Stonewall riot and is seeking revenge on Christianity for suppressing her cult.

> **[This U.S. town is considering a ban on all public art | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-hampshire-town-art-debate-1.7014430)**
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> Local councillors in Littleton, N.H., are expressing misgivings about some of the art appearing in their town and considering a blanket ban to keep it in check.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1858 "2023-11-01T23:40:19Z")

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“sudo”, in the weird sometimes backwards way of nerds, is shorthand for “su”. It means “SuperUser, do:”, so it is, in its way, a compliment for him to call her the supervisor.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-3/986588/1859 "2023-11-02T01:12:14Z")

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Not really, they’re two different commands. `sudo` gives you superuser privileges if you’re allowed (there’s a list of allowed users and allowed commands), to execute another command, and you have to enter **your own password**. With `su` (which means ‘substitute user’, not ‘super user’), you have to give the password for the user you’re attempting to impersonate (the default is `root`, so thinking that `su` stands for ‘super user’ is understandable). So if you have the correct permissions set up, you can run `sudo su` to become `root`, without knowing the `root` password.

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> So telling someone to make it themselves is a nonstarter; rather, sudo grants you the privilege to do something yourself, not to tell another entity (process?) to do it for you.
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> I will stop now before I try to overexplain the setuid bit.

You should probably go and make yourself a sandwich instead.

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