# New Superman costumes revealed for DC Comics universe reboot.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 12, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209 "2011-06-12T09:35:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/41 "2011-06-13T16:59:40Z")

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The costume without the briefs is a terrible idea – illusory as it is, the briefs make it at least look like he’s wearing **something** over his crotch instead of the form-fitting spandex. Now it’s going to seem like Anthony Weiner’s out there leaping tall buildings with a single bound.

They had the same problem with Batman when I got back into comics 10-12 years ago – they got rid of the briefs for just gray spandex leggings, and then he just looked creepy, so they kept finding ways to keep his lower half obscured by shadows or desks or stuff.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/42 "2011-06-13T17:34:05Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Supergirl has the cat. Superman is a dog person. And unless they’re Kryptonian jeans, I don’t think they’d survive Krypto chewing on them… or heat-visioning them… or freeze-breathing them.

They better be Kryptonian jeans - Superman’s clothing has to survive some serious friction. I mean, he doesn’t want his pants to burn up on re-entry.

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**Author:** ![Sanity\_Challenged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Sanity\_Challenged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sanity_Challenged)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/43 "2011-06-13T17:58:44Z")

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> [@Ura-Maru](#):
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> A T-Shirt AND a cape? The hell? That’s like wearing a tuxedo jacket and cummerbund over sweats. Either you’re in formal superhero attire, or casual superhero attire. Both at once makes you look drunk. Very drunk.

I like to picture Superman in a cape & T-Shirt because it says I want to be super, but I’m here to party.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/44 "2011-06-13T18:09:40Z")

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> [@Sanity\_Challenged](#):
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> I like to picture Superman in a cape & T-Shirt because it says I want to be super, but I’m here to party.

Or standing at the bottom of a freeway offramp, holding a sign that reads “All I can afford is this cape. Please help.”.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/45 "2011-06-13T18:19:52Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Who’ll know?

The whole county?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/46 "2011-06-13T19:46:08Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> [Harley Quinn’s new costume](http://www.toplessrobot.com/SuicideSquad_cover_02.jpg) - do like. 😛
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> OTOH, it’s a shame that the one DC comic series I’ve read (Secret Six) is being cancelled.

Whose breasts are those, wearing the costume?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/47 "2011-06-13T20:43:24Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> [Harley Quinn’s new costume](http://www.toplessrobot.com/SuicideSquad_cover_02.jpg) - do like.

We need to find the floor of the Dark Tower that opens onto multiverses of ass just for that costume.

Harley’s original look is iconic. This is some fanboy’s wank fodder.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/48 "2011-06-13T21:13:17Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> We need to find the floor of the Dark Tower that opens onto multiverses of ass just for that costume.
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> Harley’s original look is iconic. This is some fanboy’s wank fodder.

Yup. Harley’s mad, not clubbing.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/49 "2011-06-13T21:16:07Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> They better be Kryptonian jeans - Superman’s clothing has to survive some serious friction. I mean, he doesn’t want his pants to burn up on re-entry.

From what Morrison has commented, the Superman in that outfit won’t be doing atmospheric re-entry. It’s not even clear if he’ll be flying, or just leaping buildings in a single bound.

He’ll be at Golden Age power levels: bullets will be a serious threat. It’s a Year One storyline.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/50 "2011-06-13T21:24:27Z")

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Okay, I don’t follow comics at all, but I was reading [this article](http://io9.com/5811314/what-you-need-to-know-about-that-huge-dc-comics-relaunch) about the reboot. It looks like there are **four** different Batman comics, plus he’s also in Justice League and Justice League International. How does that all work? Is it the same storyline across four comics, different time periods in each comic, or something else entirely?

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/51 "2011-06-13T21:24:29Z")

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I actually kind of like the jeans and t-shirt look, but the little towel-cape needs to go, and his eyes had better only glow when he’s actually burning something. Overall, I could buy it working with a more Golden Age version of Supes–more “Man of Steel” than “Man of Tomorrow”.

The holding-the-globe picture is horrific, but I don’t know how much to blame on the costume and how much on the proportions. I guess the belt is okay. I’ve always thought the briefs looked dumb, but I can kind of see **Cliffy** ’s point about them in that image.

I think I like the new cape on Supergirl. The rest of the outfit, not so much. The diaper is really bad, and the boots are just weird.

The Harley outfit…I could see her doing that to try to catch J’s attention when he’s ignoring her, then looking crushed when he doesn’t notice it, and going back to her old look. I like cleavage and abbreviated shorts as much as the next guy, but it just doesn’t look right.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/52 "2011-06-13T22:31:18Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Okay, I don’t follow comics at all, but I was reading [this article](http://io9.com/5811314/what-you-need-to-know-about-that-huge-dc-comics-relaunch) about the reboot. It looks like there are **four** different Batman comics, plus he’s also in Justice League and Justice League International. How does that all work? Is it the same storyline across four comics, different time periods in each comic, or something else entirely?

How it all works is like this: readers will buy comics with Wolverine in them, so they put Wolverine in every comic that they can.

In this case, I think Bruce Wayne Batman is in three titles – _Batman_, _Batman & Robin_, _Detective Comics_ – and two JL titles. Batman, Inc. will resume next year, and he’ll be in that, too. As far as we know, they’re all in the same timeframe (unlike _Action Comics_ and _Superman_).

Ironically, Morrison’s stuff in _Batman, Inc._ actually explained how Batman could be showing up everywhere and turn up in more than one ongoing… that explanation is being undone as part of this overall retcon/whatever.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/53 "2011-06-13T22:54:59Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Is it the same storyline across four comics

No - it’s done that way sometimes, but currently, and at the time of the launch, no.

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> different time periods in each comic

Possibly, but probably not - that’s what they’re doing with Superman (who’s only got two titles of his own, and in one JL), which could argue either way.

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> or something else entirely?

Most likely, he’s just a very, very busy bat.

(It’s also vaguely possible, there’s another Batman - that’s the current case.)

You’ve missed The Dark Knight, Lightray.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/54 "2011-06-14T00:40:29Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> You’ve missed The Dark Knight, Lightray.

Gah. Honestly, 52 titles is a gonna be bit much.

Also, I’m annoyed that they’re pulling a New X-Men on Morrison’s better updates to the Batman mythos, this time even _before_ he had the chance to finish his storyline! I expect a swift reveal that Oberon Sexton wasn’t _really_ who he was revealed to be, and instead his identical twin brother will show up to carry on.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/55 "2011-06-14T15:24:21Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Gah. Honestly, 52 titles is a gonna be bit much.
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> Also, I’m annoyed that they’re pulling a New X-Men on Morrison’s better updates to the Batman mythos, this time even _before_ he had the chance to finish his storyline! I expect a swift reveal that Oberon Sexton wasn’t _really_ who he was revealed to be, and instead his identical twin brother will show up to carry on.

No, Batman Inc is still in continuity, and Morrison will be finishing the story of it sometime in 2012.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/56 "2011-06-14T15:33:30Z")

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_Batman, Inc._ is still in continuity. Dick Grayson is back to being Nightwing, and there is only one “Batman” (in Gotham).

Having two "Batman"s was an excellent explanation for why “Batman” could be fighting crime in Gotham _and_ in the JLA _and_ kiting around to random parts of the globe, all at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/57 "2011-06-14T15:33:33Z")

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Three Batman, inc bits from the post relaunch stuff, not including the fact that the book itself will be coming back: 1) The African Batman introduced in the last couple issues (Batwing) is getting his own book. 2) Batman, inc is specifically mentioned in the solicits for Batman and Robin. (They’ve pissed off the antagonist of the first arc.) 3) The writer of Nightwing made an offhand mention in an interview about how Dick is better than he’s ever been, because he’s just recently stopped being Batman.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/58 "2011-06-14T17:32:17Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> _Batman, Inc._ is still in continuity. Dick Grayson is back to being Nightwing, and there is only one “Batman” (in Gotham).
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> Having two "Batman"s was an excellent explanation for why “Batman” could be fighting crime in Gotham _and_ in the JLA _and_ kiting around to random parts of the globe, all at the same time.

So how is “It’s still in continuity and actively being used and referenced in the material” equal to “the New X-Men treatment”?

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/59 "2011-06-14T17:49:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Supergirl one is kinda decent, but where’s the miniskirt?

She left it in my room. 😉

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-costumes-revealed-for-dc-comics-universe-reboot/585209/60 "2011-06-17T23:13:58Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Possibly, but probably not - that’s what they’re doing with Superman (who’s only got two titles of his own, and in one JL), which could argue either way.

Oh, hey…what do you know, JLA’s set in the past, like Action.

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