# New Superman movies and the comics (spoilers)

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
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I was watching the new “Batman V Superman” movie with a friend and I noticed “Doomsday” was there. I told him that in the comics he kills Superman…

> **[The Death of Superman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman)**
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> "The Death of Superman" is a crossover story event mostly featured in DC Comics' Superman-related publications. The crossover, which originated from editor Mike Carlin and writers Dan Jurgens, Roger Stern, Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, and Karl Kesel, began in December 1992 and lasted until October 1993. It was published in Superman, Action Comics, The Adventures of Superman, Superman: The Man of Steel, Justice League America, and Green Lantern. Since its initial publication, "The Death of Su...

In the movie Doomsday does kill Superman and for the rest of the movie at least, Superman stays dead…

In the comics there are four replacement super heroes…

> **[The Death of Superman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman#Reign_of_the_Supermen.21)**
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> "The Death of Superman" is a crossover story event mostly featured in DC Comics' Superman-related publications. The crossover, which originated from editor Mike Carlin and writers Dan Jurgens, Roger Stern, Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, and Karl Kesel, began in December 1992 and lasted until October 1993. It was published in Superman, Action Comics, The Adventures of Superman, Superman: The Man of Steel, Justice League America, and Green Lantern. Since its initial publication, "The Death of Su...

The Man of Steel: John Henry Irons was an ironworker and an ex-weapons designer for the military who wears a suit of armor and wields a hammer:

> **[The Death of Superman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman)**
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> "The Death of Superman" is a crossover story event mostly featured in DC Comics' Superman-related publications. The crossover, which originated from editor Mike Carlin and writers Dan Jurgens, Roger Stern, Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, and Karl Kesel, began in December 1992 and lasted until October 1993. It was published in Superman, Action Comics, The Adventures of Superman, Superman: The Man of Steel, Justice League America, and Green Lantern. Since its initial publication, "The Death of Su...

The Man of Tomorrow, also called the Cyborg Superman, arrived with augmented Kryptonian technology:

> **[Hank Henshaw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Henshaw)**
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> Henry "Hank" Henshaw is a supervillain appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics, and normally goes by the name Cyborg Superman. Created by writer-artist Dan Jurgens, the character originally appeared primarily as an enemy of Superman, however in recent years he has also been an enemy of the Green Lantern Corps.
> At times, he is also referred to as The Cyborg (not to be confused with Victor Stone a.k.a. Cyborg)
> In 2011, IGN ranked him #33 of the "Top 100 Comic Book Villains".
> Whi...

The Metropolis Kid, who hated being called Superboy, is a reckless teenage clone of Superman:

> **[Superboy (Kon-El)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superboy_(Kon-El))**
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> Superboy (also known as Kon-El or Conner Kent) is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. A modern variation on the original Superboy, the character first appeared as Superboy in The Adventures of Superman #500 (June 1993), and was created by writer Karl Kesel and artist Tom Grummett.
> From the character's debut in 1993 to August 2003, Superboy was depicted as a genetically-engineered metahuman clone of human origin designed by Project Cadmus as a duplicate and e...

The Last Son of Krypton was a visored, energy-powered alien who dealt with criminals lethally:

> **[Eradicator (character)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradicator_(comics)#Reign_of_the_Supermen)**
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> Eradicator is the given name of four different fictional comic book characters, appearing in books published by DC Comics. The first iteration was an antihero character appearing in The Flash series of comics. The second was a superhero (and sometimes supervillain) having a recurring role in Superman stories, and the remaining two first appeared in 2013 and 2017, respectively.
> The Flash Eradicator was created by Carmine Infantino and Cary Bates and first appeared in The Flash #314. The first Sup...

Later the normal Superman returns…

> **[The Death of Superman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Superman#Superman)**
>
> "The Death of Superman" is a crossover story event mostly featured in DC Comics' Superman-related publications. The crossover, which originated from editor Mike Carlin and writers Dan Jurgens, Roger Stern, Louise Simonson, Jerry Ordway, and Karl Kesel, began in December 1992 and lasted until October 1993. It was published in Superman, Action Comics, The Adventures of Superman, Superman: The Man of Steel, Justice League America, and Green Lantern. Since its initial publication, "The Death of Su...

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> During the time Superman spent in stasis recovering in the Fortress of Solitude, his hair grew to shoulder length. Even after reclaiming his title as the one true Superman, he kept his hair long and this was how he was depicted for much of his appearances in the 1990s comics. Before his wedding with Lois, he cut his hair.

I guess it would be too crazy to replace Superman with any of those four in the sequel… I wonder how they explain Superman’s resurrection… (I assume that like in the comics Superman will also return in the sequel). I haven’t read the comics and I don’t really understand how Superman came back to life in the comics.

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The same way most other heroes and villains come back to life: handwaving and double talk.

I was reading comics in the death of Superman era. There wasn’t a comic book reader over the age of five who didn’t think he’s come back eventually.

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**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-movies-and-the-comics-spoilers/750219/3 "2016-03-26T12:51:19Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> The same way most other heroes and villains come back to life: handwaving and double talk.
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> I was reading comics in the death of Superman era. There wasn’t a comic book reader over the age of five who didn’t think he’s come back eventually.

Hi what happened though? I assume they buried his dead body in a grave… did someone dig him up and then how did he come back to life? I’d like to know the details.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> Hi what happened though? I assume they buried his dead body in a grave… did someone dig him up and then how did he come back to life? I’d like to know the details.

The link you posted actually spells it out. “Superman’s alien genetic material enables him to absorb sunlight and perform superhuman feats. Superman survived his death by entering into a hibernation-like state, and the Eradicator’s use of him as a ‘conduit’ by which he could absorb solar energy ‘restarted’ Superman’s body”. It specifies who stole his body, adds that he was “in stasis” – it’s all there.

Pretty stupid of us hairless apes to put the solar-powered superbeing _in a dark coffin_ as per our silly Earth customs, but, hey, whadayagonnado?

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-movies-and-the-comics-spoilers/750219/5 "2016-03-26T13:30:30Z")

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Thanks… well I guess the Eradicator won’t be in the sequel so they’d need to restart Superman in some other way. Also I didn’t know that Superman was affected by the Sun in that way. In Superman IV the baddie was powered by the Sun though.

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The baddie in Superman IV was just like Superman in every way. Except that he was also NUCLEAR!, which made him scary and gave him a few other powers, because NUCLEAR! power is scary. Oh, and you can get a dude’s body into the reactor core just by dropping him down the cooling tower, and doing so will make all the lights in the city brighter for a few moments.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-movies-and-the-comics-spoilers/750219/7 "2016-03-26T14:22:25Z")

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BTW in the movie when Superman was hit from the nuclear missile in space he seemed to be dead for a while. Maybe that is a precedent that shows that Superman can come back from the dead.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-superman-movies-and-the-comics-spoilers/750219/8 "2016-03-28T03:03:23Z")

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> **[Batman V Superman Ending Explained](https://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-ending-explained-darkseid/)**
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> Batman V Superman (and the DCEU) has arrived - but what exactly happened in the final Dawn of Justice ending scenes? We explain.

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> …Superman’s body was returned to the Fortress of Solitude where he was placed in a regeneration matrix – but an Superman (known as The Last Son of Krypton aka the Eradicator) was harvesting the Man of Steel’s regeneration energy (which proved to be a bane and a boon for the real Superman). As a result, it isn’t entirely clear how long Superman would have recovered from his battle with Doomsday – had he simply been left alone to heal…

So in the comics he was eventually dug up from his grave. I guess this will happen too in the sequel.

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> [@JohnClay](#):
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> BTW in the movie when Superman was hit from the nuclear missile in space he seemed to be dead for a while. Maybe that is a precedent that shows that Superman can come back from the dead.

No, that was lifted pretty much directly from _The Dark Knight Returns_. It shows that a heavily battered Superman can return to normal after getting some sun.
