# New Tolkien website is up, from the Estate. Previously unseen material

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** middle-earth, books-writing-myths\
**Created:** [February 26, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156 "2022-02-26T16:44:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/1 "2022-02-26T16:44:15Z")

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> **[Home - The Tolkien Estate](https://www.tolkienestate.com/)**
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Pretty interesting stuff so far, including his early drawings pre WWI of [the elven realm](https://www.tolkienestate.com/painting/the-silmarillion/).

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/2 "2022-02-26T17:21:08Z")

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Thank you, this should be awesome to pour through.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/3 "2022-02-26T17:23:23Z")

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Nitpick: **pore**.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/4 "2022-02-26T17:32:44Z")

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Actually, I don’t see much I hadn’t seen before.

There are a lot of images on [the Tolkien Gateway site](http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Category:Images_by_J.R.R._Tolkien) that have been there for years. They include most of those on the Tolkien Estate website, and a number that are not.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/5 "2022-02-26T17:37:23Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> pore

I’m confused, how come?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/6 "2022-02-26T17:39:52Z")

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“As a verb, pore means “to gaze intently” or “to reflect or meditate steadily.” The verb pour has meanings referring to the falling or streaming of liquid”

- some internet cite

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/7 "2022-02-26T17:44:34Z")

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Thanks, I always figured the knowledge was pouring out more or less. I’ve been butchering that one my entire life.

I wasn’t even aware of that meaning of pore.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/8 "2022-02-26T18:09:12Z")

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Thank you. I absolutely love to see Tolkien’s drawings.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/9 "2022-02-26T18:14:09Z")

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Read this letter to Chris Tolkien written after JRR’s wife had died. I knew about the gravestone saying “Luthien”, but I had never read his own words about it.

> **[Christopher Tolkien, 11 July 1972 - The Tolkien Estate](https://www.tolkienestate.com/letters/christopher-tolkien-11-july-1972/)**
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/10 "2022-02-26T18:24:03Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Thanks, I always figured the knowledge was pouring out more or less. I’ve been butchering that one my entire life.

That’s a very common error.

> **[Do You 'Pore Over' Something or 'Pour Over' It?](https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/pore-over-vs-pour-over-poor-usage-difference)**
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> Read this article thoroughly and let it soak in.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/11 "2022-02-26T18:49:26Z")

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That was quite touching. As someone who is still married to my youthful sweetheart and first love (and first passionate kiss at age 15), it was quite impactful to read of his feelings and experience, especially since I’m in my mid 60’s now and so is my wife.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/12 "2022-02-26T18:57:24Z")

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Is there anything on the Tolkien Estate website that’s particularly new and different from anything previously known about Tolkien?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/13 "2022-02-26T19:30:48Z")

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All the links to this story I saw in the news stated there was new stuff available at their new site, never seen by the public. But they didn’t link to specific new items.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/14 "2022-02-26T19:50:28Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Read this letter to Chris Tolkien written after JRR’s wife had died. I knew about the gravestone saying “Luthien”, but I had never read his own words about it.

That excerpt was published in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien (1981, pp. 420-421). Very cool to see it online, but still not sure what textual material, if any, on that website is actually “new” as in “never previously published”.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tolkien-website-is-up-from-the-estate-previously-unseen-material/960156/15 "2022-02-26T20:10:12Z")

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There have been books published of his letters, and books of his art. This website seems to be trying to gather everything together in one place.
