# New TV Season...What's gone by October? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439 "2007-08-30T00:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/1 "2007-08-30T00:05:58Z")
My predictions: **Kid Nation** is gone by the fourth week, tops. Possibly even the second. Don’t know why, but I see **Cane** being this year’s **Smith**. **Cavemen** may make it to Thanksgiving; we’ll all be giving thanks when it’s extinct. **Pushing Daisies** will give **Kid Nation** a run for its money as the first cancellation. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/2 "2007-08-30T00:23:05Z")
For ABC, Cavemen dies early. So does Samantha Who. Pushing Daisies manages to survive. For CBS, Kid Nation never gets on the air because of legal reasons. Moonlight gets canceled early…nobody really wants a new Forever Knight NBC doesn’t cancel anything Fox drops K-Ville, Canterbury’s Law, and The Return of Jezebel James ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/3 "2007-08-30T05:28:47Z")
Although I like the idea, I’m guessing that the Bionic Woman will not make it. Other “reimagings” have failed: Fantasy Island and The Nightstalker come to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/4 "2007-08-30T14:42:42Z")
I don’t know if all of the controversy surrounding \*\*Kid Nation \*\* has been manufactured as promotion for the show, but if it’s not, then I’d be surprised if it even airs at all. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/5 "2007-08-30T15:26:52Z")
Skirting child labor laws by not paying the kids doesn’t sound like a manufactured controversy. I’d be surprised if it makes it to air. “K-ville” actually looks entertaining, but I think the police procedural has reached supersaturation and it and “Life” will be crumbs on the bottom of the beaker. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/6 "2007-08-30T15:29:39Z")
No way does \*\*Pushing Daisies \*\* survive, and quite frankly, I’m surprised about the acclaim it’s getting. But, acclaim aside, Joe America is going to be bored with the show before the first commercial break. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/7 "2007-08-30T15:48:26Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing] NBC doesn’t cancel anything [/QUOTE] They have a good lineup this season? Because they cancelled Kidnapped last season, after three episodes. I thought it was excellent – it just got buried with similar-sounding shows, and NBC didn’t promote it. > [@](#): > > Don’t know why, but I see Cane being this year’s Smith Yep. The promos make it look **very** ordinary. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/8 "2007-08-30T17:08:31Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] Skirting child labor laws by not paying the kids doesn’t sound like a manufactured controversy. I’d be surprised if it makes it to air. [/QUOTE] Oh, I’m pretty sure it’s not manufactured, but sometimes my tinfoil hat feels comfy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/9 "2007-08-30T17:28:12Z")
**Caveman** will stay on the air as long as ABC has it following **According To Jim** on the schedule. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/10 "2007-08-30T17:35:37Z")
**Pushing Daisies** is the only show that I’m sure will be gone before the end of the year. **Reaper** might last into 2008 (and I’ll be watching at least), but I don’t think it’ll get a season 2. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/11 "2007-08-30T17:46:54Z")
[QUOTE=Khadaji] Although I like the idea, I’m guessing that the Bionic Woman will not make it. Other “reimagings” have failed: Fantasy Island and The Nightstalker come to mind. [/QUOTE] You chose poor examples. The “reimagining” of _Battlestar Galactica_ by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick has been a rousing success. Maybe you’ll rebut that BSG is a hit on basic cable, and therefore it isn’t predictive of _Bionic Woman_’s success on NBC, one of the big broadcast networks. But I’ll simply reply to that with a mention of _Heroes,_ another show on NBC about super-heroes which has become a Top 20 ratings-getter. Then, most likely, you’ll see that I’ve won the argument, and you’ll nurse your contrition while I go have a drink. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/12 "2007-08-30T17:48:10Z")
I think **Pushing Daisies** stands a chance. The one that looks bad is the one with the geeks. They have the whiteboards in their apartment. The writing is so untrue. Not one of these writers has spent time with science guys. And the jokes are jokes that could be found in any “fad of the month” sitcom (in this case, geek-chic). Oh, and **Cane** looks terrible, “sugar is the new oil”. :rolleyes: Jimmy Smits is annoying to look at. ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/13 "2007-08-30T17:53:13Z")
I’ve stopped trying to predict network failures ever since I was sure that **Frazier** was going to be nothing more than a desperate attempt to cash in on the success of _Cheers_ by starring a peripheral and one dimensional character. So, hell, maybe **Cavemen** will be the next must-see watercooler TV hit. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/14 "2007-08-30T17:55:20Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Yep. The promos make it look **very** ordinary. [/QUOTE] But it has \*Jimmy Smits \* in it. Come on! Where are your priorities? I must admit, I’m looking forward to **Cavemen**. I’m going to give it a shot. I also cannot wait for **Journeyman** …Vorenus…mmmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/15 "2007-08-30T17:57:42Z")
I’ll jump on the bandwagon and say that **Pushing Daisies** will be doing just that within 3 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/16 "2007-08-30T18:37:55Z")
I’d say **Pushing Daisies** has a 50/50 chance of being a breakout success or a dismal failure. It is, by far, the most original show of the coming new season. It’s a highly stylized, dark and weird fairy tale with a pitch-black sense of humour which could easily turn off the general public. On the other hand, the public also loves Tim Burton, who’s style and sensibilities have had an obvious influence on the show. I absolutely loved it, so that means it’s probably doomed. I also enjoyed **Reaper** , although it takes a more conventional approach to the supernatural. Good chemistry between the leads and the sometimes hilarious absurdist humour give it a good chance to last the season. [QUOTE=Fiver] You chose poor examples. The “reimagining” of _Battlestar Galactica_ by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick has been a rousing success. Maybe you’ll rebut that BSG is a hit on basic cable, and therefore it isn’t predictive of _Bionic Woman_’s success on NBC, one of the big broadcast networks. But I’ll simply reply to that with a mention of _Heroes,_ another show on NBC about super-heroes which has become a Top 20 ratings-getter. Then, most likely, you’ll see that I’ve won the argument, and you’ll nurse your contrition while I go have a drink. [/QUOTE] Your premise is flawed because, unlike **BSG** or **Heroes** , **The Bionic Woman** sucks. Sure, they tried to update it, but the lack of chemistry between the main actors, coupled with the crappy acting of the star make for a rather dull pilot (in-between the unintentional belly-laughs, of course). This could (and should) die an early death, but there’s a possibility it could hang on for a long time with a cult-audience built on its camp value. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/17 "2007-08-30T18:48:57Z")
[QUOTE=Hodge] Your premise is flawed because, unlike **BSG** or **Heroes** , **The Bionic Woman** sucks. [/QUOTE] [So you’ve said](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8905536&postcount=25). But I haven’t seen where anyone else who’s seen the pilot agrees with you. I still like its chances. ---
**Author:** ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/18 "2007-08-30T19:44:47Z")
I predict **Kid Nation** will be an enormous hit. **Dirty Sexy Money** and **Big Shots** will also do well. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/19 "2007-08-30T19:45:48Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] But it has \*Jimmy Smits \* in it. Come on! Where are your priorities? [/QUOTE] That’s why I’m so disappointed! I’ve loved him since LA Law – even got his autograph once, when he was doing a TV movie in Seattle. They shot a scene at Trattoria Michelli. Double yum! I thought the geek show looked kinda funny, but it has a laugh track. Or maybe it’s filmed live and people are really laughing. It’s hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Camelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f17d59/32.png) [@Camelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camelot)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439/20 "2007-08-30T19:51:01Z")
Well, nothing will be gone by October because most shows don’t start until the last week of September/first week of October. But I say **Cavemen.** At least in my corner of the world, **Pushing Daisies** is the one show everyone is looking forward to. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-season-whats-gone-by-october/417439.md?page=2)