# New TV series thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123 "2013-09-18T03:27:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/61 "2013-10-04T13:37:45Z")
Brooklyn 99 - This is probably my favorite of the new shows; and I’m not a huge Andy Samberg (until a few minutes ago, I thought his name was Sandberg). Goldbergs - Ugh. Looked stupid; and I wasn’t disappointed. Trophy Wife - Has potential. I’m not sold yet, but I’m still watching. The Michael J. Fox Show - I wanted to like this; but after two episodes, I’ve decided to give up on it. Agents of SHIELD - I have faith in Josh Whedon - It’s OK so far, and I think it’s only going to get better. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/62 "2013-10-04T14:28:35Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Okay, we just watched “The Crazy Ones,” too - didn’t laugh my ass off, but I was entertained enough to watch it again. It looks like they managed to rein Robin Williams in enough to make it tolerable - 23 minutes of him doing his schtick would have been too much for me. I’d warn against watching the outtakes at the end then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/63 "2013-10-04T14:29:41Z")
Watched _Welcome to the Family_ instead of _The Millers_ and it may have been the wrong choice. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/64 "2013-10-04T14:31:30Z")
Which brings up a good question: Why does it seem lately that a lot of the TV shows and movies use the surname ‘Miller’? ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/65 "2013-10-04T15:58:06Z")
I had to go back and rewind The Millers because at first glance I got it into my head that the brother and sister were a formally married couple. (Divorced but still friends kind of thing) After watching for a while, I started to get really creeped out. So I figured, I must have missed something and rewatched it. Glad I did. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/66 "2013-10-05T03:32:53Z")
> [@Becky2844](#): > > We laughed out loud at The Millers, especially during the shower recollection. Put together well enough that I already feel I “know” the characters. “You were criticizing me the whole time!” “You were holding it wrong!” I laughed out loud long and hard at the little kid cussing a blue streak at Nathan the on-the-scene news reporter. I hate the mom and dad a lot, though - the dad’s an idiot man-child and the mom is the worst person alive. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/67 "2013-10-05T03:38:26Z")
Lucky 7 went was not a winning ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/68 "2013-10-05T05:09:09Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > Lucky 7 went was not a winning ticket. So how does it work? _Lucky 7_ premiered on September 24 and its cancellation was announced on October 4 after two episodes aired. But some series haven’t even started yet. Let’s say _Reign_ or _Almost Human_ gets cancelled after only a single episode. Do they win the pool? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/69 "2013-10-05T05:15:36Z")
Did anyone even watch _Ironside_ or _Sean Saves the World_? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/70 "2013-10-05T05:34:16Z")
We watched “Ironside” - it wasn’t bad, but it didn’t knock my socks off. My main impression - Blair Underwood is one good-looking dude. I don’t even particularly like cop dramas, and I already watch too many of them - I don’t think I’ll be adding this one to the list. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/71 "2013-10-05T13:29:50Z")
I liked Ironside enough to give it a chance but I forgot to watch Sean saves the world. I may try to add that. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/72 "2013-10-05T14:16:38Z")
I liked _Welcome To The Family_ much more than I would have guessed by the title and premise. I might watch it again. _Sean Saves The World_ was horrible. As expected. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/73 "2013-10-05T16:06:15Z")
Watched _Welcome to the Family_. 1.5 stars out of 5 and 1 of those stars goes to the surprisingly not terrible performance of Mike O’Malley. All the other actors are entirely forgettable. This is how bad some of the other new sitcoms are. This one is a winner by comparison. But it’s just the usual run of the mill, tame “quirky” family stuff. And I do mean tame in terms of quirkiness. _Modern Family_ this isn’t. Theme of the show: Two teens are graduating high school and are moving on to other things. Oops, the girl is pregnant, time to not move on. Of course the two families are different, etc. You know the drill. The “surprise” is of course: The girl’s mother is also pregnant. Yawn. Another show I tried: _Sleepy Hollow_. Uh, looked like a 2nd rate SyFy show. Nothing to see there. _Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D_ is at least a first rate SyFy show. But not my cup of tea. [Here’s](http://www.adweek.com/news/television/nbc-s-thursday-night-comedies-fall-flat-152915) an interesting article about NBC’s Thursday night disaster in the making. _Ironside_ got a record low debut rating. (I blame the reboot of _Hawaii Five-0_ for this turkey.) But then was beaten by the new unchampion _Welcome to the Family_. Must See Thursday is now **crickets**. _Lucky 7_ is going to have a lot of company. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/74 "2013-10-05T17:08:01Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > Lucky 7 went was not a winning ticket. We watched the first (and only) two episodes. Good premise, but then it already started going off in super soapy directions and I didn’t care an iota for a single character in the show - so no huge tears here for the cancellation and probably good to put this show out of its misery. Supposedly this show was based off a British series? Anyone see that British series? How did it end or progress? Just mildly interested. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/75 "2013-10-05T17:37:02Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I hate the mom and dad a lot, though - the dad’s an idiot man-child and the mom is the worst person alive. Is the dad supposed to be mentally challenged? Because that went way beyond “idiot man child” level of behavior. I can imagine an ok show with those actors and that premise - this was not it. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/76 "2013-10-05T17:37:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Did anyone even watch _Ironside_ or _Sean Saves the World_? We watched _Ironside_ OnDemand. Which is about as unimaginative as a remake can be. It reminded me of that BBC show _Luther_ except in a wheelchair - he can get away with anything. Talk about straining plausibility - they are in a hostage situation, and Ironside’s partner shoots the hostage, on purpose. And nobody blinks an eye. And the “twist” is that the suicide that Ironside classed as a homicide was really a suicide. Who. The. Hell. Cares. He’s a jerk (in a wheelchair), everyone around him is an idiot, and his supervising officer is criminally weak and incompetent. I don’t think I will be watching it again. Nor will I seek out _The Michael J. Fox Show._ Two episodes were enough. Its best moments reached the ordinary, and the second episode made him out to be a jerk. How many shows can they make about how he has Parkinson’s? OK, he was insecure about his masculinity because he has Parkinson’s. There were jokes about how he has Parkinson’s and it affects how he has sex. And he mentions his medications a lot. For his Parkinson’s. And by the way, he has Parkinson’s, and it pushed him off the air because his chair wasn’t locked. So his Parkinson’s got him dropped from the newscast. But now they all want him back. Even though he has Parkinson’s. A pattern seems to be emerging, but I won’t be around to see it develop. I want to see the _Agents of SHIELD_ show, but I don’t expect any major changes in how much TV I make it a point to watch other than that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/77 "2013-10-05T17:51:29Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Is the dad supposed to be mentally challenged? Because that went way beyond “idiot man child” level of behavior. > I can imagine an ok show with those actors and that premise - this was not it. Good point - maybe 43 years of having the worst person alive bitching at him constantly has caused his brain to shut off. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/78 "2013-10-07T20:53:11Z")
I watched Ironside over the weekend. It wasn’t horrible, but it does strain credulity. He’s apparently the tough guy that can get away with anything. It starts with him crawing into the back of a car with a kidnapping suspect to interrogate for the location of the missing girl. So he proceeds to beat the guy up a couple blows at a time, while subjecting him to psychological intimidation and abuse. Ultimately, the guy cracks just as Ironside’s boss shows up. His boss is going to punish him, except the ploy pays off and they rescue the girl. The scene with shooting the hostage at least had a thin vaneer of justification. Scummy financial analyst who was the boss of the victim and may have played a role in manipulating and/or bullying the girl is taken hostage by the girl’s sister. She wants justice and has a gun at his head. Ironside shows up and tries to negotiate to calm her down, while SWAT is already dealing with the confrontation. Ironside is trying to calm her down, to let her know he takes her concerns seriously and is trying to find the justice she seeks, but she is emotionally worked up, and the hostage starts stirring things up. The hostage is escalating tensions rather than keeping his mouth shut and letting the cops defuse the situation. And he starts yelling for somebody to do something. So Ironside decides he will do something, and instructs his subordinate to shoot the hostage in the leg. Which surprises the hostage taker, interrupts the confrontation, and allows SWAT to take her into custody. And the paramedics are on hand for immediate treatment, so the hostage is okay, if shot in the leg. So the mitigating factor is that the hostage was escalating the incident and, well, he was demanding they do _something_, so they did _something_ that ended the confrontation and kept him alive. And the guy’s lawyer tries to make a big deal about it, Ironside is safe because he can compare shootings - he was paralyzed by a bullet so he’s got the wheelchair sympathy over the guy who is on crutches for a while. I’ll probably give this another go, unless it comes up against something else I care about. Or if my DVR starts getting full. ---
**Author:** ![nivlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@nivlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nivlac)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/79 "2013-10-07T22:34:59Z")
Boy, there sure are a lot of bad new shows this season. Wanted to like “We Are Men” since it had Tony Shalhoub, but having him play a letch was just a dumb decision. It’s so removed from his lovable Monk character. And Jerry O’Connell is so unlikable. The show should die. Ditto for “Mom” unless they can clamp down Allison Janney a bit in her overacting. “Sean Saves the World” also lacks any freshness. And this is the first time I heard that there’s another version of “Ironside” on air. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123/80 "2013-10-07T22:56:40Z")
Agents of Shield- Good, but could be great. Hoping. The Crazy Ones- pretty funny. Michael J Fox Show- the 1st epi was OK, the 2nd one made me cringe so much I had to turn it off. I couldn’t watch Hostages, the premise so soooo stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-series-thread/669123.md?page=5)