# New TV Show "V": Rave Review From Hollywood Reporter
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 31, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826 "2009-10-31T07:05:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/1 "2009-10-31T07:05:12Z")
We’ll see how it is this coming Tuesday (November 3, 8-9 PM on ABC), but the Hollywood Reporter [review](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/tv-reviews/v-tv-review-1004032195.story) is pretty much a rave, and the show looks promising.
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/2 "2009-10-31T11:16:28Z")
The miniseries always seemed way too campy for me to have noticed the symbolism. I might give this new version a shot.
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### Author:  [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/3 "2009-10-31T11:24:33Z")
From the article.
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> “V” – a modern retelling of how the Nazis rose to power in Germany
I thought _V_ was an allegory for communism.
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/4 "2009-10-31T13:24:18Z")
No, definitely Nazis. See their unsubtle symbol, looks sorta like a swastika.
[http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/10/v-l.jpg](http://media.comicmix.com/media/2008/10/10/v-l.jpg)
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/5 "2009-10-31T13:46:29Z")
The original was fun. I’m looking forward to the “reimagining.”
Note I said the original. Not Part 2 or the series. 😃
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### Author:  [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/6 "2009-11-02T05:17:33Z")
I loved the original and I’m looking forward to the new series, although rumors of it already being scheduled for a hiatus after the first 6 episodes are troubling. Love Firefly girl as the V leader and Juliet from Lost as one of the resistance. Scott Wolf can’t quite fill Mark Singer’s shoes though.
Anyone else watch the original V miniseries marathon on SyFy today? I tivoed it and am about halfway through the first miniseries. I have to say it still holds up pretty well.
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/7 "2009-11-02T05:37:36Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> …Anyone else watch the original V miniseries marathon on SyFy today? I tivoed it and am about halfway through the first miniseries. I have to say it still holds up pretty well.
Is it just me or do all the Vistor women (Diana in particular) come off as lesbians whenever they’re in a scene with another woman? :dubious:
I’m deeply worried that ABC’s remaking this as a regular TV series instead of a miniseries. My gut feeling is that it ends up cancelled without any kind of conclusion. Or turn into **Earth: Final Conflict** (which the same exact scenario just played out longer and without us getting to see the Taelons’ arrival.
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### Author:  [@BKReporter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BKReporter)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/8 "2009-11-02T05:46:42Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> I loved the original and I’m looking forward to the new series, although rumors of it already being scheduled for a hiatus after the first 6 episodes are troubling. Love Firefly girl as the V leader and Juliet from Lost as one of the resistance. Scott Wolf can’t quite fill Mark Singer’s shoes though.
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> Anyone else watch the original V miniseries marathon on SyFy today? I tivoed it and am about halfway through the first miniseries. I have to say it still holds up pretty well.
I watched it today, practically the whole thing (though I did take a few breaks as I had some errands to run and my wife wanted to watch “Desperate Housewives”). I just saw it was on when I was flipping through the channels and sort of got hooked.
Still, I couldn’t help thinking just how dated and campy it looked. And I also wondered why the aliens spoke English to each other, instead of their own native language (this happened when the TV cameraman was spying on them aboard the spaceship in the first installment; he didn’t appear to have any trouble understanding what they were saying).
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### Author:  [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/9 "2009-11-02T06:17:13Z")
I dunno…the original aimed pretty low even for the '80s mainstream, and devolved into camp pretty fast. I’ll admit Ron Moore squeeze a lot out of the even-campier “Battlestar Galactica”, but he also eschewed a lot of the sillier elements of the original along the way.
For this incarnation of _V_, orignial producer [Ken Johnson](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0425540/)is on board–a move that could either be brilliant or catastrophic–while the ‘other’ [head writer’s track record](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0676671/)on what was arguably the worst season of “the 4400” and some forgettable “Outer Limits” episodes does not bode well.
The article’s oxymoronic claim that the series is “clever enough for a cult following and accessible enough to reach a broad demo” is industry gobbletygook…my guess is this is gone and forgotten by next May.
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### Author:  [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/10 "2009-11-02T15:18:05Z")
[WKRN in Nashville](http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=11400190#) will be airing “V” on 5-hour delay, at 12:05 am each night, in order to air “The [Titans head coach] Jeff Fisher Show” during prime time. The 1-6 Titans.
I was mad when they pre-empted “It’s the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown” for JF, but this just seems crazy. The people leaving comments on the WKRN website are all kinds of pissed off.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/11 "2009-11-02T15:26:34Z")
> [@CJJ](#):
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> The article’s oxymoronic claim that the series is “clever enough for a cult following and accessible enough to reach a broad demo” is industry gobbletygook…my guess is this is gone and forgotten by next May.
I don’t know if I’d go that far, the commercials look all kinds of fantastic and Morena Baccarin looks downright sexy-creepy with her short hair. I’m cautiously optimistic. FlashForward turned out good, so why shouldn’t this?
And film/television “journalists” are notorious for their poor grasp of the English language. I’ve said it before, but they make video game journalists look like scholars in comparison. They’re probably using “cult following” to mean “loyal Lost-like following”, which is not what the word “cult” means in the context of film/television at all.
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### Author:  [@BKReporter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BKReporter)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/12 "2009-11-02T16:24:01Z")
> [@CJJ](#):
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> I dunno…the original aimed pretty low even for the '80s mainstream, and devolved into camp pretty fast. I’ll admit Ron Moore squeeze a lot out of the even-campier “Battlestar Galactica”, but he also eschewed a lot of the sillier elements of the original along the way.
Yeah, another problem with the original I noticed yesterday is that it suffered from that great syndrome of '80s action camp - in that the bad guys fire off a million rounds and if they’re lucky graze one of the good guys, but the ragtag band of heroes with their crude weaponry and training OTOH are mowing down the villians left and right. The bad guys also waste about a hundred good opportunities to off the resistance leaders. The whole time I was thinking that for a race capable of interstellar travel, these guys are really shitty marksmen.
In fairness though, “V: The Final Battle” is much worse in this regard than the first miniseries, which was actually more an allegory on totalitarianism than a straight up action flick.
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### Author:  [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/13 "2009-11-02T16:35:46Z")
> [@BKReporter](#):
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> Yeah, another problem with the original I noticed yesterday is that it suffered from that great syndrome of '80s action camp - in that the bad guys fire off a million rounds and if they’re lucky graze one of the good guys, but the ragtag band of heroes with their crude weaponry and training OTOH are mowing down the villians left and right.
On a related note, I see where they’re re-making [The A-Team](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429493/) as an action movie.
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### Author:  [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/14 "2009-11-02T16:41:51Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> On a related note, I see where they’re re-making [The A-Team](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429493/) as an action movie.
What the what?! You can do that with cartoons and stuff (_Transformers, GI Joe_) but _The A-Team_ was driven by its actors IMHO. You can’t just go replacing them and tell me it’s “THE A-Team.” Cuz it’s not.
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/15 "2009-11-02T16:49:27Z")
I’ll probably check it out. The ads look interesting, and it’s not like I’m watching anything else on Tuesday nights…
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### Author:  [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/16 "2009-11-02T16:58:21Z")
And I’m certainly not watching anything else [del]on Tuesday nights[/del] in the wee hours of Wednesday morning.:mad:
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### Author:  [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/17 "2009-11-02T17:14:19Z")
The original V is when I got it bad for Michael Ironside.
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### Author:  [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/18 "2009-11-02T18:17:46Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> I loved the original and I’m looking forward to the new series, although rumors of it already being scheduled for a hiatus after the first 6 episodes are troubling. Love Firefly girl as the V leader and Juliet from Lost as one of the resistance. Scott Wolf can’t quite fill Mark Singer’s shoes though.
I can’t think of anyone who could fill Mark Singer’s shoes.
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### Author:  [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/19 "2009-11-02T19:35:23Z")
So, do we have to first watch **I** through **IV** in order to fully appreciate this show?
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-tv-show-v-rave-review-from-hollywood-reporter/515826/20 "2009-11-02T20:05:02Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Love Firefly girl as the V leader and Juliet from Lost as one of the resistance.
No love for FBI Agent Wash?
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