# New twist in the gun rights movement **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 23, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113 "2024-08-23T20:09:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/146 "2024-09-13T20:01:26Z")
Because it consists of…people? For those that declare that the government is the enemy, sometimes they are their own enemy. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/147 "2024-09-13T20:04:05Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I’m always amused at the idea that an armed populace will stand up to a tyrannical government. 1. We did it. I have doubts about it occuring today, but then look at all the SDMBers here freaked out about the possibility that those fat cowardly MAGAs will rise up in armed revolt should trump not win. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/148 "2024-09-13T20:05:05Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Mainly because as things now stand the government has to care about public opinion. And why ultimately should they care? Because the people who work for the government _are_ the public, and they might object to shooting at their own people. Look at the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Block. Did those revolutions happen through force of arms? No. The people protested, and the army and police looked at the protestors and said, “Fuck it - I’m on _their_ side.” Virtually every successful revolution in history has worked that way. Believe me, dictatorships care very much about public opinion. That’s why they work so hard to shape it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/149 "2024-09-13T20:06:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > 1. We did it. That wasn’t the populace, that was the colonies. It was one level of government fighting against the other. ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/150 "2024-09-16T19:52:14Z")
The post-1919 revolution in Ireland was pretty much people with guns, and nothing else (forget about the 1916 trial run, which was somewhat abortive). No foreign sponsor egging them on. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/151 "2024-09-16T19:53:37Z")
How long did it take, and what was the outcome? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113.md?page=7)