# New twist in the gun rights movement

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**Created:** [August 23, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113 "2024-08-23T20:09:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-in-the-gun-rights-movement/1006113/68 "2024-09-08T05:36:49Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> 3/5 compromise.

Yep, and so? Is the word “slave” mentioned there?

See here

> [@Just want to make sure everyone is clear that the Bill of Rights were the People’s rights, not the states, not the state militia. (Gun related)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-want-to-make-sure-everyone-is-clear-that-the-bill-of-rights-were-the-people-s-rights-not-the-states-not-the-state-militia-gun-related/1006468/75):
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> We also wouldn’t be having this discussion if the 2nd amendment had solely said “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. But it doesn’t. Only the Second Amendment includes language which its proponents would like to simply ignore. “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state” has meaning. It is best understood in the context of the time. It preserves a state right. Amendments have been incorporated to the states, but on a case…

where even Babale agreed with me-

> [@Just want to make sure everyone is clear that the Bill of Rights were the People’s rights, not the states, not the state militia. (Gun related)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-want-to-make-sure-everyone-is-clear-that-the-bill-of-rights-were-the-people-s-rights-not-the-states-not-the-state-militia-gun-related/1006468/62):
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> At the time of the Revolution, @DrDeth is in fact correct. Most of the Founding Fathers assumed that slavery was on its way out, so rather than tackle the issue which stands in opposition to the foundational principles of the new Republic, they just ignored it, and agreed to bind the federal government in ways that would prevent it from abolishing slavery.
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> Two developments which they didn’t see coming occurred and entranched slavery in the Southern states:
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> 1. The invention of the Cotton Gin gave slavery a few more decades of economic viability
> 2. The South developed antebellum culture which made slavery an integral part of the southern identify
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> Neither of those things had happened yet at the time of the Revolution.

So,this has been proven, and I am not gonna go over it again. The Founding Fathers actually thought Slavery was going to go away on it’s own. Yes, they were wrong- the cotton gin came around and the number of slaves in the USA more than quadruped, making many Southern slave owners filthy rich. Suddenly slavery was a Great idea again- because it made White men rich. It wasnt even very long- 50 years or so, until the Civil war.

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