# New twist on Birtherism: Obama's real father was an American (Communist) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 18, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289 "2012-05-18T04:20:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/1 "2012-05-18T04:20:54Z")
Joel Gilbert tries to prove that in his new direct-to-DVD notumentary [_Dreams from My Real Father:_](http://superstore.wnd.com/Dreams-from-my-Real-Father-DVD) > [@](#): > > In Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama is portrayed by a voiceover actor who chronicles Barack Obama’s life journey in socialism, from birth through his election to the Presidency. The film begins by presenting the case that Barack Obama’s real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA propagandist who likely shaped Obama’s world view during his formative years. Barack Obama sold himself to America as the multi-cultural ideal, a man who stood above politics. Was the goat herding Kenyan father only a fairy tale to obscure a Marxist agenda, irreconcilable with American values? > > This fascinating narrative is based in part on 2 years of research, interviews, newly unearthed footage and photos, and the writings of Davis and Obama himself. Dreams of My Real Father weaves together the proven facts with reasoned logic and speculation in an attempt to fill-in the obvious gaps in Obama’s history. Is this the story Barack Obama should have told, revealing his true agenda for “fundamentally transforming America?” Director Joel Gilbert concludes, "The ‘Birthers’ have been on a fool’s errand. To understand Obama’s plans for America, the question is not ‘Where’s the Birth Certificate?,’ the question is ‘Who is the real father?’” (If [Frank Marshall Davis](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marshall_Davis) was a Communist, the more we have of them the better.) And now WND’s [Jerome Corsi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi) (author of [_The Obama Nation_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamanation)) [is pimping it.](http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/film-presidents-father-not-barack-obama/) [Orly Taitz is nonplussed:](http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=50784) > [@](#): > > Jerome Corsi is destroying the case on which I worked for 4 years 24/7/365. He is gratuitously making up an American father for Obama. What is his motivation to do so? Tell WND and Corsi to stop this. I hesitated posting this in Elections rather than MPSIMS because, well, how could this crap **possibly** be relevant to or influential on the election?! But, I once thought that about the Tea Party, and, [they still won’t go away,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=649991) so I guess this might not either . . . ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/2 "2012-05-18T04:25:31Z")
I can’t stop giggling about that quote from Orly Taitz. I may NEVER stop giggling about that quote from Orly Taitz. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/3 "2012-05-18T04:33:11Z")
Obama was born in 1961, at a time when interracial marriage was still illegal in some US states and that would not be struck down until he was six years old. > **[Loving v. Virginia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia)** > > Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967), was a landmark civil rights decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriage violate the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The case involved Mildred Loving, a woman of color,\[a\] and her white husband Richard Loving, who in 1958 were sentenced to a year in prison for marrying each other. Their marriage violated Virginia's Racial Integrity Act o In ... It is asinine to assume his mother would believe anyone would care whether his father was a black American communist, or a Kenyan national. She lacked a crystal ball, however you can be sure the very real prejudices of the time weighed heavily on her mind, not made up nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/4 "2012-05-18T04:37:26Z")
The problem is, there is a grain of truth behind “the obvious gaps in Obama’s history”. Apparently no one knows where he was on August 11th, 1985 between 7:45 PM and 1:15 the next morning. Alien encounter, implanting the chip in his brain, having gay sex, or worse? ETA: WTF is up with people? Did the communists plant a mole so that one day he would save GM, kill OBL, and pwn Donald Trump? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/5 "2012-05-18T04:39:49Z")
> [@fumster](#): > > The problem is, there is a grain of truth behind “the obvious gaps in Obama’s history”. Apparently no one knows where he was on August 11th, 1985 between 7:45 PM and 1:15 the next morning. Alien encounter, implanting the chip in his brain, having gay sex, or worse? All at once? There’s no need to choose! 🙂 (Especially since we know all about [those aliens and their anal-probing butt-fixation . . .](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz7sBTHtcLU)) ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/6 "2012-05-18T04:55:38Z")
I just want to know if the Jerome on another message board is the same guy as Jerome Corsi. Mostly so I can make fun of him. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/7 "2012-05-18T04:57:59Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I just want to know if the Jerome on another message board is the same guy as Jerome Corsi. > Mostly so I can make fun of him. [shrug] Ask him. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/8 "2012-05-18T05:46:11Z")
I thought Corsi was a big time Birther? Why the switch? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/9 "2012-05-18T05:48:45Z")
Is “reasoned logic and speculation” the new code for “stuff that flying monkeys delivered straight from my posterior orifice”? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/10 "2012-05-18T05:54:28Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I thought Corsi was a big time Birther? Why the switch? Guess he got bored. Or, still considers himself a Birther but (unlike Taitz) sees no reason for a foolish consistency when some fresh and juicy angle happens along. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/11 "2012-05-18T05:55:53Z")
> [@](#): > > This fascinating narrative is based in part on 2 years of research, interviews, newly unearthed footage and photos, and the writings of Davis and Obama himself. Dreams of My Real Father weaves together the proven facts with reasoned logic and speculation in an attempt to fill-in the obvious gaps in Obama’s history. That’s true. None of Obama’s writings contain any first-hand accounts of his own conception. What is he trying to hide?! ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/12 "2012-05-18T06:06:08Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I can’t stop giggling about that quote from Orly Taitz. > > I may NEVER stop giggling about that quote from Orly Taitz. I like that she’s been working on it 24/7/365. The sleep deprivation would explain a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/13 "2012-05-18T11:24:16Z")
Please don’t die, [birtherism](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/obama-birthers_n_1526222.html?1337309704&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D162031). Keep fuckin’ that chicken! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/14 "2012-05-18T12:20:08Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I thought Corsi was a big time Birther? Why the switch? Corsi is a big time _Hater_, and he’s just looking for a new path. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/15 "2012-05-18T13:33:51Z")
The other titles offered on that page are a real treat, too. Damn, there’s a whole cottage industry out there on this subject! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/16 "2012-05-18T13:42:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The other titles offered on that page are a real treat, too. Damn, there’s a whole cottage industry out there on this subject! That ain’t nuttin’ new. **Hillary Clinton** got her own cottage industry. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/17 "2012-05-18T13:49:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > That ain’t nuttin’ new. **Hillary Clinton** got her own cottage industry. And if Hillary runs in 2016, I can’t wait to once again hear all about Vince Foster. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/18 "2012-05-18T14:25:06Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > And if Hillary runs in 2016, I can’t wait to once again hear all about Vince Foster. Vince Foster is Obama’s real father? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/19 "2012-05-18T14:41:15Z")
And now you know … the rest of the story. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289/20 "2012-05-18T15:44:21Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > And now you know … the rest of the story. **Paul Harvey** was Obama’s real father?! No way. In 1961, dude would’ve been way too old to get it up. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-twist-on-birtherism-obamas-real-father-was-an-american-communist/622289.md?page=2)