# New user sees ignorance here on the Dope (about Trump)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 7, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612 "2024-06-07T20:20:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/183 "2024-06-09T23:34:20Z")

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Nice! TIL the mathematical concept of “viewpoint invariance under new information”, hitherto also known as “immunity to evidence”. It’s no joke – among the evidence that MAGAts are immune to is the sheer stupidity of their tribe: not one of them that I’ve ever seen interviewed can ever answer factual questions about political events or even about the basic structure of government that has existed for hundred of years. To them, ignorance is a virtue: where there is no cognition, there can be no cognitive dissonance, and the world is a stress-free beautiful place where they’re always right.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/184 "2024-06-09T23:43:59Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> To them, ignorance is a virtue: where there is no cognition, there can be no cognitive dissonance, and the world is a stress-free beautiful place where they’re always right.

A world where there is [free beer and a live band.](https://invidious.incogniweb.net/watch?v=DCc8kSdeqxw)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/185 "2024-06-10T13:03:03Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s like the old joke.
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> “Why do you go around incessantly snapping your fingers?”
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> “It keeps the elephants away.”
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> “What elephants? There isn’t an elephant within five hundred miles of here.”
> 
> “See? It works!”

Yeah–I’ve long compared the voter ID laws to Kraken Repellent buoys that I think we should install along the coastline at great expense and tremendous inconvenience to shippers.

“But why would you do that,” you might ask, “if there’s no evidence of krakens?”

To which I respond by creating a massive fear campaign about the dangers of krakens, and then insisting that the buoys will alleviate everyone’s fear and get people to trust in the safety of our waters again.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/186 "2024-06-10T15:07:18Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s like the old joke.
> 
> “Why do you go around incessantly snapping your fingers?”
> 
> “It keeps the elephants away.”
> 
> “What elephants? There isn’t an elephant within five hundred miles of here.”
> 
> “See? It works!”

[Reminds me of this gem from The Simpsons…](https://youtu.be/fm2W0sq9ddU?si=eiRlKW-QJGCwc7wG)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/187 "2024-06-10T17:01:43Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> get people to trust in the safety of our waters again.

Make (The) Atlantic Great Again

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/188 "2024-06-10T18:40:16Z")

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May I take the opportunity to remark I find it quite a thing, that a ban reads under the user profile as just suspended… for 28 years.  
So, there IS hope! 😆

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/189 "2024-06-10T19:57:56Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> and the world is a stress-free beautiful place

It’s not stress free, though. They’re always worried about woke agendas and whether they have enough guns and whether that cute chick they’ve been dancing with and buying drinks for all night might actually be a man, man!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/190 "2024-06-10T21:28:45Z")

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Country song!

My new girl  
Has a gun in her pocket  
I know it  
Cuz I can feel it  
When we dance

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/191 "2024-06-10T21:38:51Z")

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I guess that IS stress free and beautiful

Ignorance and naivety, I mean…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/192 "2024-06-10T21:46:17Z")

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🎶

I know all there is to know about the crying game  
I’ve had my share of the crying game  
First there are kisses  
Then there are sighs  
And then, before you know where you are  
You’re sayin’ goodbye _(to Trump in jail)_

🎶

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/193 "2024-06-11T08:20:28Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> My new girl  
> Has a gun in her pocket  
> I know it  
> Cuz I can feel it  
> When we dance

She’s just happy to see you.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/194 "2024-06-12T15:58:13Z")

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Unlike Trump, Biden doesn’t care if you get eaten by a shark! It’s true!

> **[How long will feckless Joe Biden ignore the grave threat of sharks and...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/06/12/trump-shark-battery-biden-threat-election/74063059007/)**
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> Thank God for MY PRESIDENT, Donald J. Trump, the one candidate with the guts to confront the twin threats of our time: sharks and boat batteries.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/195 "2024-06-12T16:11:46Z")

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WTF?  
They pay people to write like that on a national newspaper?

I can’t write worth a flip but I could write like that.  
I totally understood him. Because he thinks kinda chaotic(psychotic) like me.  
I’m applying.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/196 "2024-06-12T17:00:59Z")

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Don’t mako fun of it! The danger is real!

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/197 "2024-06-12T21:53:04Z")

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Q: How many D-Cells will it take to make Donald Trump happy?

A: The world may never know…

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/198 "2024-06-12T22:10:07Z")

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Dare him to lick the top of a nine volt.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/199 "2024-06-12T22:50:11Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Unlike Trump, Biden doesn’t care if you get eaten by a shark! It’s true!

Don’t forget, “Sleepy Joe” Biden also doesn’t care that **[wind turbines give you cancer](https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/trumps-faulty-wind-power-claims/)**!

Vote Trump, and embrace the new science **[where magnets don’t work under water](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ridiculed-bizarre-magnet-remarks-iowa-rally-1858420)**! Vote Trump and avoid being eaten by sharks and electrocuted by electric boats! Protect yourself against COVID by avoiding masks and injecting bleach! Wake up, sheeple!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/200 "2024-06-12T22:50:41Z")

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I used to do that to confirm it had a charge. It felt weird but was harmless.

Now I use an actual battery tester.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/201 "2024-06-12T23:00:31Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Dare him to lick the top of a nine volt.

“We are here at the Trump rally in Las Vegas, where we’ve secretly replaced the nine volt battery that they usually serve with direct power cables from The Hoover Dam. Let’s see if Donald can tell [the difference!](https://www.highdefgeoff.com/uploads/6/1/1/2/61127263/published/jaws4.jpg?1497907969)”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/202 "2024-06-12T23:17:14Z")

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You may scoff, but between 2012 and 2017 there was an average of 53 shark attacks in the US per year. However, after Trump had a year to act, shark attacks dropped to an average of 35.3 a year between 2018 and 2020, only to go back up to 47 after Biden took office in 2020.

> **[How common are shark attacks in the US? Take a close look at the latest data.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/06/11/2024-shark-attack-data/74045548007/)**
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> How frequent are shark attacks in the US? Here's a look at 2024 data thus far and how that compares with earlier years.

Coincididence? I think…

OK, its probably a coincidence.

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