# New user sees ignorance here on the Dope (about Trump)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 7, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612 "2024-06-07T20:20:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/81 "2024-06-08T18:38:51Z")

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Yes!

A circus! With clowns!

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/82 "2024-06-08T18:39:10Z")

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I’d say Jimbo has you lightweights back on your heels.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/83 "2024-06-08T18:40:22Z")

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Not my circus!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/84 "2024-06-08T18:44:24Z")

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But what about all these monkeys?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/85 "2024-06-08T18:50:52Z")

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Hey. Don’t discriminate because I’m left handed. I take that personally.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/86 "2024-06-08T19:03:29Z")

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> [@jimcommonsense](#):
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> I see the ignorance runs rampant here. It’s the left that used and weaponized the DOJ against Trump as they have nothing positive to campaign on. They are just like the 1930-1940’s nazi Germany using the gestapo to get rid of the competition.  
> FYI - EVERYTHING was better under Trump. Name just ONE thing better now (and it has to be REAL, not what cnn, msnbc tells you what to believe) than it was 4 years ago. Absolutely nothing.

Is there a different Nazi Germany you thought we might get confused with?

> [@jimcommonsense](#):
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> No troll, this is not a lefty only site. Nice try though!

It would be nice to hear more coherent fact-based arguments from those on the Right though.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/87 "2024-06-08T19:20:15Z")

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You’re _Left-Handed_, too???

You got no breaks in life at all!

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/88 "2024-06-08T19:29:25Z")

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If I were Trump I would be embarrassed to see my supporter engaging in this peewee league shit.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/89 "2024-06-08T19:32:45Z")

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@jimcommonsense

You’re really not here for the hunting, are you?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/90 "2024-06-08T21:01:51Z")

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So, before the poster gets banned at this rate, and this whole thread possibly sent to the place which should not be named (lest it awaken!) let’s give them a moment to disprove our troll hypothesis.

@jimcommonsense - you claim you’re not a troll, but (presumably) someone who finds us sadly misled by all media not personally vetted by you.

However, a number of posters have made good faith efforts to actually answer your simplistic question about our current state as Americans on a factual basis.

Please respond to their points, using information that can be verified by, shall we say, more neutral points of view - NPR generally is pretty moderate, or you could use BBC News, or a wide range of reporting that actually publishes retractions when proven wrong, well, at least without being proven (by their own records mind you!) that they were making shit up, such as Fox and Infowars.

Otherwise, well, we’re already having a hard time taking you seriously.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/91 "2024-06-08T21:13:35Z")

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> [@jimcommonsense](#):
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> No troll, this is not a lefty only site. Nice try though!

As I said above, your momma might have some issues with how you’re posting here. Nobody in history has ever _persuasively_ denied being a troll. If you don’t want people to think you’re a troll, post substantively.

As it is, it doesn’t seem like you have any interest in a solid discussion–almost certainly for the same reason I’m not interested in entering a MMA ring.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/92 "2024-06-08T21:13:36Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> This is just sad. I’m going over to the FOX News website to troll properly, by posting the most vile shit I can think of and getting zero pushback from the deplorables.

I’d just post verifiable FACTS (S&P500, unemployment rate, inflation rate, etc.), and see how quickly doing so gets me banned. Insane when factual info is considered trolling in certain places anymore.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/93 "2024-06-08T21:31:22Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xbNthA7Uplc/hqdefault.jpg "NoMeansNo - Cats, Sex And Nazis [Why Do They Call Me Mr Happy?]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbNthA7Uplc)

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/94 "2024-06-08T21:32:14Z")

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Here. Data.

**[BIDEN’S NUMBERS - APRIL 2024 - SUMMARY](https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/bidens-numbers-april-2024-update/)**

- The economy added 15.2 million jobs. The number is now nearly 6 million higher than before the pandemic.
- The unemployment rate dropped back and has stayed lower, longer than at any time during the previous administration.
- The U.S. economy has expanded each year under Biden and is expected to continue to grow this year, although the first quarter estimate for this year was below expectations.
- Inflation surged to its highest level in over 40 years. Despite recent moderation, consumer prices are up nearly 19% overall. Gasoline is up 54%.
- Average weekly earnings haven’t kept pace with prices. After adjusting for inflation, “real” weekly earnings dropped 2.5%.
- The number of people receiving food stamps has decreased by more than 1 million.
- The S&P 500 has increased 32.9%.
- Apprehensions of those trying to cross the southern border illegally are up 297% for the 12 months ending in March.
- Crude oil production is up 14.2%; imports are up 10.8%.
- Violent crime has gone down. The latest figures from large cities show an 8.6% drop in murders.
- The publicly held debt has increased by roughly 27%.
- The trade deficit for goods and services is about 18.8% higher.
- For fiscal year 2024, the administration is on pace to admit the most refugees in nearly three decades.

FWIW, too many dollars are still chasing too few goods. Couple that with notable labor shortages and it’s no wonder prices struggle to come down.

Which is a really good reason to bring a few million more hard working people into this country, and – as always – why it _actually happens._

These are the same people that DJT promises to deport by the millions. What effect do you think _that_ would have on inflation??

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**Author:** ![jimcommonsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/94ad74/32.png) [@jimcommonsense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimcommonsense)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/95 "2024-06-08T21:40:17Z")

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Try that in English, no wonder lefties are so easily fooled.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/96 "2024-06-08T21:42:26Z")

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I dare not. I’ll just bask in your splendor.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/97 "2024-06-08T21:43:33Z")

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So, one thing for sure that we know from you so far, is that you hate finding cures for cancer.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/98 "2024-06-08T21:50:48Z")

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Too bad that your cult leader is now a convicted felon, little MAGAloser.

Too bad that there’s _NOTHING_ that you can do about it.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/99 "2024-06-08T21:53:07Z")

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Quality post. Love that album.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-user-sees-ignorance-here-on-the-dope-about-trump/1002612/100 "2024-06-08T21:57:13Z")

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> [@jimcommonsense](#):
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> Try that in English, no wonder lefties are so easily fooled.

When come back, bring ~~pie~~ higher-quality insults.

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