# New Wave Lynch Mobs **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 29, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216 "2012-03-29T23:16:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/81 "2012-04-01T21:47:09Z")
Diana’s still waiting for you to post some examples. Until you do, there’s really nothing more to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Crab\_Rangoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Crab\_Rangoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crab_Rangoon)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/82 "2012-04-01T21:53:13Z")
> [@Dufus](#): > > In this thread, I am trying to learn what make people act like “zombies”, or “brainless automatons”. Look. Dude. Please stop using the term “zombie”. I keep coming in here, expecting to find brains. And this tripe is all I get. I realize it’s April 1st and all - but enough is enough. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/83 "2012-04-01T21:54:36Z")
> [@Dufus](#): > > …In this thread, I am trying to learn what make people act like “zombies”, or “brainless automatons”. > … Really? Huh. I could have sworn that your purpose in this thread was to try to convince us that liberals are the _real_ racists. Instead, it turns out that your interests lie with zombies and automatons. Ain’t that something. How could I possibly have misinterpreted your intentions so badly? Possibly your title “New Wave Lynch Mobs” is what mislead me. It could have been a little clearer. Cecil has some columns on the subject of zombies that you may find helpful: [How do I go about creating a zombie?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1324/how-do-i-go-about-creating-a-zombie) [When the zombies take over how long till the electricity fails?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2165/when-the-zombies-take-over-how-long-till-the-electricity-fails) [How would the U.S. military fight attack by a zombie army?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2783/how-would-the-u-s-military-fight-attack-by-a-zombie-army) [Is the stench of massed zombies toxic?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3020/is-the-stench-of-massed-zombies-toxic) ---
**Author:** ![Dufus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@Dufus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dufus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/84 "2012-04-01T21:59:56Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Really? Huh. I could have sworn that your purpose in this thread was to try to convince us that liberals are the _real_ racists. > > Instead, it turns out that your interests lie with zombies and automatons. Ain’t that something. How could I possibly have misinterpreted your intentions so badly? > > Possibly your title “New Wave Lynch Mobs” is what mislead me. It could have been a little clearer. > > Cecil has some columns on the subject of zombies that you may find helpful: > [How do I go about creating a zombie?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1324/how-do-i-go-about-creating-a-zombie) > [When the zombies take over how long till the electricity fails?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2165/when-the-zombies-take-over-how-long-till-the-electricity-fails) > [How would the U.S. military fight attack by a zombie army?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2783/how-would-the-u-s-military-fight-attack-by-a-zombie-army) > [Is the stench of massed zombies toxic?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3020/is-the-stench-of-massed-zombies-toxic) Darn! I was _this close_! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Dufus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@Dufus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dufus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/85 "2012-04-01T22:13:37Z")
Time to go looking for blood soaked animal meat to sink my teeth into in an orgy of animal blood lust. If McDonalds is too crowded, I’m gonna try the chicken place, if I can get in the door without being mobbed. Please continue to post your insults here until I get back. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/86 "2012-04-02T01:14:25Z")
> [@Dufus](#): > > Thank you for continuing down the **racist** one track mind set. If I wanted to be a **racist** like you, I could post atrocity black on white crime pictures all day. What would it get me?? I would be called a racist. Jesus Christ, people, is there anyone with a functioning brain left in this zombie world? … and here we are. But you’re “just asking questions,” right? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/87 "2012-04-02T03:36:29Z")
I just like the idea of a lynch mob all wearing Devo hats. Are we not men? We are Lynch Mob! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/88 "2012-04-02T03:42:42Z")
I wish we could establish rules that just let racists be racists. I am so tired of them trying to be cute with code words and then pretending to be all hurt and offended when we call them on their bs. They are almost never smart enough to pull off being subtle so then they have to pretend that they’ve never heard of things like lynching before, but instead describe a scene from a non-existent movie (complete with a looting reference in post #60). The thing about racists is that they think the rest of us are as racist as they are, but that we’re secretly pretending not to be due to societal pressure and they might be able to get us to finally drop the act and join them in their hate. ETA: and they also usually have dreadful taste in clothing and art, but that’s really just a side annoyance. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/89 "2012-04-02T04:00:33Z")
Wow. I was curious as to when the last recorded lynching in the US (real ones, not made up ones like in the OP), and I guess I found it. I’m shocked and saddened to learn that it’s actually been within my lifetime. > **[Lynching of Michael Donald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald)** > > The lynching of Michael Donald in Mobile, Alabama, on March 21, 1981, was one of the last reported lynchings in the United States. Several Ku Klux Klan (KKK) members beat and killed Michael Donald, a 19-year-old African-American, and hung his body from a tree. One perpetrator, Henry Hays, was executed by electric chair in 1997, while another, James Knowles, was sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty and testifying against Hays. A third man was convicted as an accomplice and also Hay... > [@](#): > > They wrapped a rope around his neck, and pulled on it to strangle him, before slitting his throat and hanging him from a tree across the street from Hays’ house. > > Local police initially stated that Donald had been killed as part of a drug deal gone wrong, despite his mother’s insistence that he had not been involved in drugs. **Beulah Mae Donald then contacted Jesse Jackson, who organized a protest march in the city and demanded police answers.** > > The FBI became involved, partly at the urging of Michael and Thomas Figures, local activists. Two and a half years later, Henry Hays and James Knowles were arrested But hey, I guess any time Jesse Jackson gets involved in the media it’s just reverse racism and whatnot. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/90 "2012-04-02T04:20:34Z")
What is interesting about that link **steronz** , is that local police didn’t really investigate the death unitl a public outrcry got the FBI involved. I’m so glad we don’t live in a world where that is still true. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/91 "2012-04-02T17:43:28Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > You know, “citizen’s arrest” is what the article called it. The NBPP called for his “capture”. So you might as well call it “kidnapping”. Hardly. If Zimmerman had somehow detained Trayvon after catching him robbing the store of Skittles and iced tea, people like you would be celebrating it. As such, your bias is showing The only thing the New Black Panther Party is asking for is for a citizens arrest of Zimmerman. Given the circumstances, its not kidnapping but justice. I’m still wondering, after a month of this, why Zimmerman hasn’t been arrested pending charges being filed. There is no lynch mob of Zimmerman, there never was, and the few people who have said incendiary things are being made to be the majority and not the extreme minority. > [@Dufus](#): > > (I suspect that Diana and Mz. Elizabeth are more interested in Celebrity Sex Sweepstakes right now…) I am interested in this Celebrity Sex Sweepstakes. Now do I get to pick the celebrity if I win, or is it random? Cause if it is…I’ll still take a chance ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/92 "2012-04-02T17:49:10Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > The only thing the New Black Panther Party is asking for is for a citizens arrest of Zimmerman. “capture” ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/93 "2012-04-02T19:42:27Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > “capture” So if Zimmerman, for example, took out his gun and made a bank robber get down on his knees and wait for authorities to come, that would be him capturing him? Its not even necessary to get into hypotheticals though. What was Zimmerman planning on doing to Trayvon? He called 911, then approached him with a concealed weapon. What was he hoping that would accomplish? If it was simply to have the cops take care of it, why did he stalk him? Was Zimmerman going to kidnap Trayvon? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/94 "2012-04-02T19:44:44Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > So if Zimmerman, for example, took out his gun and made a bank robber get down on his knees and wait for authorities to come, that would be him capturing him? The authorities know where Zimmerman is. The authorities have not issued an arrest warrant for him. He is not committing any crime at the moment. If you “capture” Zimmerman right now, you will be charged with kidnapping. Wish you’d try. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/95 "2012-04-02T20:07:28Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > I’m still wondering, after a month of this, why Zimmerman hasn’t been arrested pending charges being filed. I understand it’s largely because of how that stupid “stand your ground” law is written; because he killed someone with a gun, he’s near untouchable. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/96 "2012-04-02T20:13:32Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I understand it’s largely because of how that stupid “stand your ground” law is written; because he killed someone with a gun, he’s near untouchable. Why exactly do you want him arrested? Can you explain what exactly Zimmerman’s “arrest” will accomplish? You arrest him, he’s out on bail in a couple of hours, and we’re back to what we have right now. Except, of course, the clock started ticking because now he’s entitled to “speedy trial”. And I bet you if he’s arrested _now_, and it’s decided not to indict him he sues for false arrest and wins - since there is no “probable cause” now that would not have been there earlier. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216/97 "2012-04-02T21:21:12Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > The authorities know where Zimmerman is. The authorities have not issued an arrest warrant for him. He is not committing any crime at the moment. Right, like the “I’m not murdering anyone right now at this moment” defense would hold up. He committed a possible crime that has not been fully investigated. He should either be out on bail, or in detention > [@Terr](#): > > Why exactly do you want him arrested? Can you explain what exactly Zimmerman’s “arrest” will accomplish? You arrest him, he’s out on bail in a couple of hours, and we’re back to what we have right now. Except, of course, the clock started ticking because now he’s entitled to “speedy trial”. And I bet you if he’s arrested _now_, and it’s decided not to indict him he sues for false arrest and wins - since there is no “probable cause” now that would not have been there earlier. So its OUR fault if he gets out due to a trial? Isn’t that what you want? (that or let him go free without a trial). Sure, let them arrest him, let him post bail, and let a trial commence. He deserves one, Trayvon deserves on, and whatever facts come out during the trial, so much the better. So yes, I see absolutely no downside to the police going to his house and arresting him right now. The man killed a child and his story keeps changing, and every bit of evidence that leaks out point to him lying about it. He murdered this kid after stalking him, after the 9-11 dispatcher told him to stop following him, and after a scuffle that he claimed ended with Trayvon on top of him pummeling him, sustaining a broken nose and a head gash which does not show up on video and a bullet wound that spilled no blood on his clothes [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wave-lynch-mobs/617216.md?page=4)