# New world-record low temperature reported

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 11, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034 "2013-12-11T01:20:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/1 "2013-12-11T01:20:32Z")

</div>

Review of satellite infrared readings indicate one spot in Antarctica dropped to -135° F:

> **[Antarctica sets low temperature record of -135.8 degrees](https://www.foxnews.com/science/antarctica-sets-low-temperature-record-of-135-8-degrees)**
>
> Feeling chilly? Here's cold comfort: You could be in East Antarctica which new data says set a record for "soul-crushing" cold.

We’re talking “nighttime on Hoth” cold here. For comparison, dry ice is only -109° F; acetylene welding gas solidifies at -119°F; nitrous oxide liquifies at -128°F. Gasoline is a rubbery solid at these temperatures. Reportedly breathing air this cold without some sort of pre-warming device would kill you.

And that’s not counting the wind chill. 😛

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/2 "2013-12-11T02:37:33Z")

</div>

Damn global warming ;);)😉

That is freakin cold!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/3 "2013-12-11T04:47:42Z")

</div>

With that temperature I’m betting Sears died hard.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/4 "2013-12-11T04:48:31Z")

</div>

So… would there be carbon-dioxide snow? Or is the partial pressure of CO[sub]2[/sub] too low?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Inna\_Minnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Inna\_Minnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inna_Minnit)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/5 "2013-12-11T04:51:01Z")

</div>

Better put on a coat.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SandyHook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@SandyHook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SandyHook)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/6 "2013-12-11T06:03:45Z")

</div>

> [@Lumpy](#):
>
> And that’s not counting the wind chill. 😛

Don’t know if this is true or not, just throwing it out there. But I remember hearing/reading some time back that when you get down to -70ish there isn’t much wind because if there is any wind then there’s enough friction to start warming up the air again.  
Anyone have any input on this being true or not?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/7 "2013-12-11T07:34:33Z")

</div>

Yes, they mentioned this on CNN. I can’t help thinking that the vast majority of locations on Earth do not have weather stations or any kind of thermometer. This record happened to be made at a specific location in Antarctica. There are probably many lower temperatures in other random locations.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![flak47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@flak47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flak47)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/8 "2013-12-11T11:21:28Z")

</div>

getting a tad cold there

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/9 "2013-12-11T12:43:59Z")

</div>

Wusses. In Wisconsin we don’t even put on a fleece jacket until it hits at least -150.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/10 "2013-12-11T12:59:57Z")

</div>

> [@Sunspace](#):
>
> So… would there be carbon-dioxide snow? Or is the partial pressure of CO[sub]2[/sub] too low?

CO[sub]2[/sub] comprises about 400 parts per million in the atmosphere, compared to about 0.25% for water; but water can hit as high as 5%, and you only get rain or snow where the local water vapour concentration is getting towards the high end, which CO[sub]2[/sub] never does. If there’s any sublimation to dry ice, I’d guess it’s on an unnoticeably small scale.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/11 "2013-12-11T13:35:59Z")

</div>

> [@Joey\_P](#):
>
> Wusses. In Wisconsin we don’t even put on a fleece jacket until it hits at least -150.

I have it on good authority that a logger will only button up his vest once it hits a hundred degrees below zero.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JBLHeAvZyh8?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/12 "2013-12-11T13:40:18Z")

</div>

_“Thank God, I don’t know how exactly it feels,” Scambos said. But he said scientists do routinely make naked 100 degree below zero dashes outside in the South Pole, so people can survive that temperature for about three minutes._  
Good, important research into what temp is actually required to freeze your balls off.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/13 "2013-12-11T14:31:57Z")

</div>

Note that this temperature happened three years ago. Another temperature almost as low happened this year. These temperatures were measured by satellite. These two satellite-measured temperatures beat out by several degrees the lowest one measured by thermometer, which was thirty years ago. Can anyone tell us how temperature is measured by satellite? Note that the article says that _The Guinness Book of World Records_ doesn’t accept satellite-measured temperatures.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/14 "2013-12-11T14:47:20Z")

</div>

> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
>
> Can anyone tell us how temperature is measured by satellite?

Can’t say for sure how that particular satellite does it, but [non-contact temperature measurement](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_thermometer) is nothing new. The typical method measures surface temperatures by measuring the intensity of infrared light emission (which correspond to temperature). If the air temperature has been stable for a long time, then the temperature of the ground will be a good proxy. There are however assumptions that must be made about surface emissivity and of course about the relationship between air temperature and surface temperature, and ambient illumination, which may explain why Guiness doesn’t accept temperatures measured in this way.

Two-color pyrometry checks the ratio of intensities between two different wavelengths of IR emissions, and should be more accurate.

I have a handheld IR thermometer at home, very useful for measuring hard-to-reach or exceedingly hot surfaces.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/15 "2013-12-11T15:11:42Z")

</div>

> [@lieu](#):
>
> _“Thank God, I don’t know how exactly it feels,” Scambos said. But he said scientists do routinely make naked 100 degree below zero dashes outside in the South Pole, so people can survive that temperature for about three minutes._  
> Good, important research into what temp is actually required to freeze your balls off.

There are [colder places](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/8823153/Rugby-World-Cup-2011-How-cryotherapy-chamber-allowed-Wales-to-come-in-from-the-cold.html) than that. [Like -160 C/-256 F kind of colder](http://www.espnscrum.com/wales/rugby/story/143011.html). Unlike the sauna goers in the [300 club](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_Club) though, you’d [better not be wet when you go into them](http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/6890891/justin-gatlin-arrives-world-championships-frostbite). Cryosaunas may [actually do](http://sweatscience.com/cryosaunas-enter-the-realm-of-real-sports-science/) what they claim.

How long have we had satellite IR sensors good enough to determine surface temperatures? Makes me wonder how long this new record will last.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/16 "2013-12-11T21:05:50Z")

</div>

> [@lieu](#):
>
> _“Thank God, I don’t know how exactly it feels,” Scambos said. But he said scientists do routinely make naked 100 degree below zero dashes outside in the South Pole, so people can survive that temperature for about three minutes._  
> Good, important research into what temp is actually required to freeze your balls off.

I’m offficially retiring the witches in brass bras. Now it’s “colder than a scientist’s titties at the South Pole”.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-world-record-low-temperature-reported/676034/17 "2013-12-11T21:19:12Z")

</div>

> [@sisu](#):
>
> Damn global warming ;);)😉
> 
> That is freakin cold!

Smileys noted, but of course this isn’t a case of it getting colder in 2010 than it had ever got before. It’s a case of changing the rules, and searching an entire continent for a low temperature rather than the handful of spots that happen to have weather stations.

If they same method was applied to the USA, say, then you can bet a new record low for the nation would be discovered.

In any case, temperatures are meant to be recorded at a set height above the ground, in a screened enclosure. What these satellite measurements seem to have recorded is the ground temperature, which is generally several degrees lower than the screen air temperature. (You can get a ground frost when the air temperature is well above freezing.)
