# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 120
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2381 "2010-08-30T16:26:46Z")
That said, even if they’re not doing it maliciously, they’re still breaking the guild’s rules, and I think having a silenced “time out” rank is a very good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2382 "2010-08-30T16:30:39Z")
Have I mentioned I love being a holy pally? I literally feel like I can kill anything that can’t 1) two-shot me, 2) chain stun me or 3) enrage after five minutes. Yesterday I solo’d the whole Grizzly Hills arena-gladiator chain. It took a long time, but I finished each round with 100% mana and within one heal of 100% health. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2383 "2010-08-30T16:42:47Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Have I mentioned I love being a holy pally? I literally feel like I can kill anything that can’t 1) two-shot me, 2) chain stun me or 3) enrage after five minutes. > > Yesterday I solo’d the whole Grizzly Hills arena-gladiator chain. It took a long time, but I finished each round with 100% mana and within one heal of 100% health. Congratulations! Isn’t it great to be able to do stuff like that? 😃 I feel the same way about my DK tank. I sometimes go around picking fights with elites (like Thrym, in Zul’Drak) just because I _can_. It’s one of the factors that made me main-swap to him from my mage. After feeling so invincible, going back to being squishy felt weird. My mage can hit like a truck, but that doesn’t matter when two shot from a tough mob can turn him into little red spot on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2384 "2010-08-30T17:17:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > > > I pointed out in the Officer channel that, while it’s fairly easy to slip and use profanity while _speaking_, it’s kind of hard to accidentally _type_ profanity. > > Actually, I’d say it’s about comparable, \*when you’re using an instant chat \*(like gchat) versus something that generally takes longer and gets edited before it’s posted (like a forum post or an email). If you don’t see the difference, you’re probably somebody who doesn’t swear that often (versus someone like me, who swears all the fucking time). I think it’s probably an adult vs. teenager thing. I suspect most mature adults — even those who “swear all the fucking time” — are able to make the distinction between “swearing-appropriate” venues and “watch your language” places. I mean, I don’t imagine you, as an adult, would be dropping f-bombs while attending a wedding or funeral in a church, even if you wouldn’t hesitate to use that language elsewhere. And in most workplaces, “Yo, beeyotch! Whose ass do I have to kiss to get a fuckin’ raise around here?” probably isn’t the best way to ask for a pay increase 😛 It’s really just a matter of learning to tailor your vocabulary to your audience, like not telling gay jokes when there’s a gay person in your group (or even better, not telling them at all because you never know who might be listening). Though you’re correct - I don’t personally swear a lot. Profanity doesn’t _offend_ me; in fact I’ll use it where/when it’s appropriate. What _does_ offend me is when somebody can’t seem to express themselves any other way, or when it appears that “fuckin’” is the only adjective they know (or people who use “fuckin’” in their conversation the same way most other people use “uh…”) I blame rap music. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2385 "2010-08-30T17:50:44Z")
The problem is that when I’m physically in a group of kids, I _see the kids_. When I’m in gchat, I don’t \*see \*that the level 65 Mage is really a ten-year-old. I’ve been in the occasional guild that kept gchat PGish (further confused by the fact that Vent was unrated), and I know I slipped more than once. And in my workplace, I swear not infrequently to certain people, who also swear around me. 😃 It’s all about context. What’s normal for you may not be normal for other people, so you can’t really make assumptions what “should be” easy for them. However, that doesn’t change the fact that your guild \*does \*have language restrictions and that you \*should \*enforce them. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2386 "2010-08-30T18:39:57Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > It’s all about context. What’s normal for you may not be normal for other people, so you can’t really make assumptions what “should be” easy for them. Yeah, I’m sort of just looking at it as the difference between speaking a one-syllable word (“easy” and instantaneous) and typing out the same word one letter at a time (you have time to catch yourself, especially if you’re a hunt-and-peck typist [which I realize isn’t necessarily an age issue these days, with kids learning to use a keyboard well before high school]). > [@](#): > > However, that doesn’t change the fact that your guild \*does \*have language restrictions and that you \*should \*enforce them. Yeah, that’s the key thing. The rule is in the “message of the day”, it’s spelled out in the guild guidelines that are mailed to each new member, and the player in question has been “reminded” several times. He’s either just not “getting it”, or he’s in “nobody tells me what to do” mode. I do think I may need to talk to the guild leader about modifying the “everybody can /ginvite” policy. Maybe switch to officers-only, and if somebody wants their friend to join they refer them to one of us so that we can talk to them first, tell them what’s up, and then invite them if they agree to the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2387 "2010-08-30T18:50:13Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Yeah, I’m sort of just looking at it as the difference between speaking a one-syllable word (“easy” and instantaneous) and typing out the same word one letter at a time (you have time to catch yourself, especially if you’re a hunt-and-peck typist [which I realize isn’t necessarily an age issue these days, with kids learning to use a keyboard well before high school]). I sincerely doubt that anybody my age or younger isn’t a touch-typist, and a fast one at that. So, yes, for someone who takes a second or two _per key_, there’s obviously time for thought. But for someone who types upwards of a word _per second_, there’s much more of a flow and less post- or during-typing consideration. Hell, there have been times that I’ve typed out more than a few words with \*my capslock key on \*and hit enter before I noticed and could go back and fix it. ETA: Oh and for the love of god take away the universal ginvite. For anything larger than a tiny guild of people who all know each other and are only going to be inviting other friends, there should be tiers to who can give invites. Either make it officers only, or officers and veteran members. But there should definitely be restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![ladeda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ladeda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladeda)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2388 "2010-08-30T22:44:33Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The jousting thing–where i could not beat the Valiants–was definitely a function of latency. OMG you aren’t kidding. I’ve had super bad latency the last few weeks for no apparent reason. I’m talking like 1000-2000 and up. I try to joust. Basically I stand in one spot mashing buttons doing nothing but getting the shite kicked out of me. :mad: When my latency is good, it’s pretty easy. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2389 "2010-08-30T22:47:01Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So, yes, for someone who takes a second or two _per key_, there’s obviously time for thought. And there’s the problem with these kids today. They just don’t have time to _think_! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ladeda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbe5ce/32.png) [@ladeda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladeda)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2390 "2010-08-30T22:52:45Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Welcome to the SDMB and welcome to the most active series of threads on the board. 😃 Good luck getting the technical issues sorted out–if you don’t mind working from two fronts, you might have some luck reposting here what you’re putting in the technical forums. Could be one of us has run into the same issues. Thank you for the welcome also **SFG**! I’ve been reading this thread for a few months and just got up the nerve to start posting. The last couple days my latency seems to be behaving itself. I’m crossing my fingers. If it starts misbehaving again, I will definitely post here for any ideas and will appreciate very much any suggestions. When it comes to the technical stuff concerning computers I am not the sharpest tool in the shed for sure. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2391 "2010-08-31T06:57:45Z")
I’ve been playing a druid lately. Dual spec’d Balance/Resto. A BoomTree, if you will. The boomkin spec rocks pvp and solo questing. Not bad at dungeon dps, either. The tree is a healing beast. Only 51 at the moment. At 50, did a Sunken Temple run. Tank jumped down in the wrong place. I followed him. No one else jumped. We’re in this round room with lots of dragonkin. He’s getting swarmed, but holding aggro, and I’m slinging heal like a mofo. We ended up duoing about 6 pulls worth of mobs while fighting our way back to the party. Healing as a tree, at least at this level, is almost ridiculously easy. Stacking both HoTs, refreshing as needed, is often enough for the tank, with a couple of “Oh Shit! Buttons” in reserve. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2392 "2010-08-31T07:08:36Z")
My latest 80 is a tree healer (resto from 10-80, I wouldn’t recommend it for questing heh). Having done disc priest and holy pally, I’d have to say the tree healing is my favorite so far (ele/resto shammy is my next project). Rolling HoTs in dungeons and battlegrounds is ridiculously effective, and nourish at level 80 makes you practically unstoppable (especially if glyphed). Plus, the tree graphics/animations are just so damn amusing (particularly if you’re packing small feasts). I’m sad that perma treeform is going away in cata. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2393 "2010-08-31T08:00:16Z")
My priest’s healing mode is holy; way back before there were multiple specs, she was shadow but with talents in renew (please don’t shoot me). She could heal normal level 70 instances on pretty much nothing but renew, back then. I’m planning on a tree druid at some point, I like HoT healing. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2394 "2010-08-31T12:25:15Z")
Not having played a shammy for a couple of years, I was quite unhappy to find that they changed Earth Shock so that it no longer interrupts spells. Very unhappy. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2395 "2010-08-31T13:26:43Z")
I’m just waiting for Cata to come out to roll my goblin resto shammy. Eventually I’d like to have an 80 healer of each class (priest and pally so far) but I just don’t feel the druid love yet. Could be because I’ve never played one, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2396 "2010-08-31T13:29:43Z")
I also rolled a baby stabby for the first time in probably over two years and was pleasantly surprised to find that thrown weapons are now perpetual (don’t need to be repaired). Boy, I miss all the patch notes that aren’t relevant to whatever I’m playing when the patch comes out… ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2397 "2010-08-31T13:39:30Z")
I feel like I’m improving all the time. I got into a PUG ToC25 run and managed to pull a new axe, a few BS plans, and a Crusader Trophy, so I was a happy clam–that one run (plus some advice from a guy on the run regarding heroic/early-raider shaman gemming) boosted my DPS by nearly 1000. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2398 "2010-08-31T13:47:12Z")
I had some insomnia last night, so I ended up doing a late-night Wintergrasp fight (wow, I could actually fight in the fortress without being so lagged I couldn’t move - I still was moving at like 2 fps, but I just can’t go near the fortress during peak hours), followed by VoA, since I was at 93 Frost emblems and one away from 4 x T10 in the shadow priest set, which has an incredible bonus. And I not only got my last 2 emblems, I also got my healing T10 pants to drop, meaning that I’m also up to 3 x T10 in Disc. Happy happy even though really I should have been trying to sleep. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2399 "2010-08-31T15:28:54Z")
In my quest to keep posting to this thread, I will tell how I am real life girly fail. Every time I watch the WotLK loading screen, I realize I’m about as good at parting my hair as Arthas is. ---
**Author:** ![Enilno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@Enilno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enilno)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2400 "2010-08-31T15:36:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not having played a shammy for a couple of years, I was quite unhappy to find that they changed Earth Shock so that it no longer interrupts spells. Very unhappy. This was a good change. Wind shear is what you use for interrupts. It’s now off the GCD and does not share a cooldown with shocks. Effectively it means you no longer have to save your shock cooldowns for interrupts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=119) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=121)