# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2741 "2010-09-20T17:46:51Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > According to the other thread, we’ve got 8 confirmed for tonight and 5 tentative, so we should be all set… but opening a heroic would be _sweet_. Well, I’m supposed to be doing some arena with a friend, but if you have an ICC group and want, I’m more than willing to hop in, switch to heroic mode, and let y’all do gunship on heroic (someone that doesn’t need anything might have to step out). It’s really not significantly harder than normal. Just send me a tell if I’m online. [QUOTE=Zeriel] My wife doesn’t like PvP (despite the fact that, whether it’s with her retribution paladin or her boomkin druid or her current lowbie fury warrior, she’s usually near the top of the HK and KB lists) because she cannot get past this. Dying = you are doing poorly. [/QUOTE] Yeah, that can be tough. Sometimes dying can be the best thing you can do in a BG, if you’re applying pressure, distracting the enemy from the real objective, or getting a killing blow on a vehicle before you die. On a separate note, had a super-fun Ulduar 10 drake run this weekend. Had only done Thorim and Hodir hard-modes before, so seeing the other fights was very cool. Freya three-trees is one hectic fight - we’d have wiped without the ridiculous gear advantage (ended up with one tank and one healer for most of the fight). Even something as boring as Flame Leviathan becomes kinda interesting with 4 towers up!. Still the best raid in WotLK, IMO. Mimiron, Vezzax, and 1-Light Yogg left for next Sat. All things going perfectly I’ll get my ICC10 drake on Thu night and my Ulduar10 drake on Sat night. Then I will declare WotLK well and truly finished for myself. 🙂 [QUOTE=Yeticus Rex] Oh, boy…Signing up for the Brew of the Month club will be the final achievement I need to get the “What a Long Strange Trip it Has Been” meta achieve…me wants the violet p-drake! [/QUOTE] Grats! It’s garishly awesome… ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2742 "2010-09-20T18:28:12Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > > > The weird thing is that there’s no penalty for it, either. I mean, you’re not out money for repairs. You can usually hop right back within seconds and splatter the sod who stabbity’d your face. It’s vastly less troublesome than PvE play. > > My wife doesn’t like PvP (despite the fact that, whether it’s with her retribution paladin or her boomkin druid or her current lowbie fury warrior, she’s usually near the top of the HK and KB lists) because she cannot get past this. Dying = you are doing poorly. Good lord. Well, as long as they don’t go to war they’re probably alright. I mean, it’s called world of WARCRAFT. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2743 "2010-09-20T20:19:37Z")
**10-MAN GLORY OF THE ICECROWN RAIDER!!!** Finally, finally, finally, I have broken my terrible raiding metamount jinx. Went in on Friday with a group that combined a few of the best people from last week’s PUG with guildies who needed the achievement (including \*\*Daed \*\*on his Priest alt), plus I think one Shaman the RL found on the forums. It actually took at little bit of the excitement out of the run–things were going so smoothly, you could tell there was no way we could fail. Really the worst time we had was with Been Waiting a Long Time for This, and I think that’s just because we’d been raiding for hours and everyone was getting tired and sloppy. Quite a few people finished off their drakes over the course of the night–over half the group, I’d say. I am only \*mildly \*ashamed to admit that I have spent some time hovering on my beautiful new Bloodbathed Frostbrood Vanquisher over the bank steps and the well. 😃 My other great accomplishment this weekend was to finish leveling my farming DK to 68, with the help of my pocket healer on Saturday, who was kind enough to haul my ass around Nagrand on his rocket and help me kill things to complete quests. The DK now has Cold Weather Flying and has started meandering around Northrend. He was already over 400 in both Herbalism and Mining before he started gathering there, so it shouldn’t take too long to max out. Right in time for the expansion, of course. :smack: > [@martu](#): > > my paladin hit 50 mounts for the achievement and the Albino Drake which is a good fit for the warrior of the light with a white guild tabard Congrats! And I’m glad you like the drake–especially when people first started getting it, before we were used to the model from other drakes, there were quite a few negative comments. > [@Zeriel](#): > > Well, to make up for my ire earlier, our ICC10 was incredible. Congrats! > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Oh shit! That one really _did_ slip by me, **Twix** and I am sorry. I KNOW the rule, but only saw my slip-up just now. My bad. I think one little “thank you” isn’t going to be a problem, **Quasi**. 🙂 > [@Jas09](#): > > As far as I can tell the event never fails, and unless you get too far away from the NPCs, you can’t ever die. A Mage in my guild claims to have pulled so much aggro that the healing buff couldn’t keep up with him, while he was right on top of the NPCs. > [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Signing up for the Brew of the Month club will be the final achievement I need to get the “What a Long Strange Trip it Has Been” meta achieve Yay! Congratulations–you’ve just saved yourself 5k gold. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2744 "2010-09-20T20:34:07Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **10-MAN GLORY OF THE ICECROWN RAIDER!!!** _high five!_ ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2745 "2010-09-20T20:44:30Z")
Way to go SFG! This is me being jealous. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2746 "2010-09-20T20:58:23Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > > [@jayjay](#): > > > > I have the same problem in giant set-piece PvE battles like the recovery battles for Gnomeregan and Echo Isles. I DID both of those on my lvl 80 Alliance and Horde toons (one each), but it wasn’t all that much fun just because there’s so many mobs and toons in one place that you can’t even tell if you’ve got anything targeted half the time. > > Yeah, I was rather disappointed by that (and Battle for Undercity a little bit) because it’s so chaotic and you don’t really _do_ anything (or have any risk of failure). As far as I can tell the event never fails, and unless you get too far away from the NPCs, you can’t ever die. I’ve whined on here before about the Battle for the Undercity; the other day, after my warlock dinged 75, I decided to run off and do the Echo Isles event while I still could, not knowing when it would be taken out. Unlike when I did it on my 80s, I was the sole player running the event, and… well. Not recommended. You know how in the Battle for the Undercity it doesn’t really matter if you blast away at the big monsters, because Thrall and Sylvanas are putting out so much damage that all you’re doing is speeding up the fight by half a minute or so? In the Echo Isles, that isn’t the case; player damage is an important part of the damage that knocks over the bosses (and trash) at each stage. Unfortunately, that means that you still need to knock off the 8 million life from each boss. Which takes a while, especially if you’re a level 75 attacking level 80s and miss every third attack. I finally said “the hell with it”, went off, and ate dinner. Fortunately, when I came back my character was sitting on the beach at Senjin Village with a yellow question mark nearby. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2747 "2010-09-20T23:04:40Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > > [@Jas09](#): > > > > Yeah, I was rather disappointed by that (and Battle for Undercity a little bit) because it’s so chaotic and you don’t really _do_ anything (or have any risk of failure). As far as I can tell the event never fails, and unless you get too far away from the NPCs, you can’t ever die. > > I’ve whined on here before about the Battle for the Undercity; the other day, after my warlock dinged 75, I decided to run off and do the Echo Isles event while I still could, not knowing when it would be taken out. Unlike when I did it on my 80s, I was the sole player running the event, and… well. Not recommended. > > You know how in the Battle for the Undercity it doesn’t really matter if you blast away at the big monsters, because Thrall and Sylvanas are putting out so much damage that all you’re doing is speeding up the fight by half a minute or so? In the Echo Isles, that isn’t the case; player damage is an important part of the damage that knocks over the bosses (and trash) at each stage. > > Unfortunately, that means that you still need to knock off the 8 million life from each boss. Which takes a while, especially if you’re a level 75 attacking level 80s and miss every third attack. I finally said “the hell with it”, went off, and ate dinner. Fortunately, when I came back my character was sitting on the beach at Senjin Village with a yellow question mark nearby. I zoned into Battle for the Undercity partway through (as Alliance). There was only one other person there and we both got lost and couldn’t find Varian and Jaina. I eventually found them but the other person had left, so it was me, Varian and Jaina against Putress. That was…interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2748 "2010-09-21T04:52:20Z")
**Wolkie** made it to 76, finally, but I have to tell y’all, it wasn’t by fulfilling quests. We just found a bunch of 74-77’s and killed their ass. I know that’s called “ballin’ the jack” or “draggin’ the level” right, but I have to tell y’all - I have some quests that I just don’t fargin’ _UNDERSTAND_ now! I have to throw seeds at some flying dragons, have to disguise myself as a Scourge and I have to throw grenades at some places I can’t find. I’m afraid that with the difficulties of the quests (and my inability to understand the instructions), I may not make it to 80 before the new thingamabob comes in, so I might just continue this as I have been doing, and seek out the monsters I know we can kill. Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2749 "2010-09-21T08:01:19Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **10-MAN GLORY OF THE ICECROWN RAIDER!!!** Grats **SFG** First time in Brewfest for me and so far really loving it apart from the bloody Ram. Any tips? Also how do I know if I am completely smashed? I was expecting a debuff to appear but unless I’m being dumb I couldn’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2750 "2010-09-21T08:10:17Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Wolkie** made it to 76, finally, but I have to tell y’all, it wasn’t by fulfilling quests. > > We just found a bunch of 74-77’s and killed their ass. > > I know that’s called “ballin’ the jack” or “draggin’ the level” right, but I have to tell y’all - I have some quests that I just don’t fargin’ _UNDERSTAND_ now! > > I have to throw seeds at some flying dragons, have to disguise myself as a Scourge and I have to throw grenades at some places I can’t find. > > I’m afraid that with the difficulties of the quests (and my inability to understand the instructions), I may not make it to 80 before the new thingamabob comes in, so I might just continue this as I have been doing, and seek out the monsters I know we can kill. > > Thanks > > Quasi Hey Quasi what zone are you in? From what you say I assume Dragonblight am I right? If so move to Sholozar Basin and start questing there. The usual pattern in zones is that the quests get more complicated the more you complete and if/when that starts annoying me I move on. In a new zone you’ll have plenty of ‘go there, kill 10 of mob X’ quests to keep you content, even more so in the Basin as Nesingwary is there. There is a breadcrumb quest ‘Where in the World is Hemet Nesingwary?’ from a NPC Archmage Pentarus who lives on Krasus Landing (where the flight point is) in Dalaran. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2751 "2010-09-21T08:11:07Z")
**Grats** , too, **SFG** , honey! Just wish I knew what I was gratzin’ ya for… I just know if I could, I’d buff ya’ 2 ways from Sunday! (Meaning that “buff” is a **good** thing, of course!) Your Quasi 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2752 "2010-09-21T08:13:54Z")
Hey, **martu**! Thanks! I will check this out! Thanks VERY MUCH! At this point, I need all the help I can get! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2753 "2010-09-21T08:47:30Z")
I’m wore out with the logistics and the doings of it all. I need some new perspective on the whole thing. I’ll get it back, just give me a few minutes. Thanks Quasi/ **Wolkie** and our pretty **Silka**! Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2754 "2010-09-21T10:24:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **10-MAN GLORY OF THE ICECROWN RAIDER!!!** Gratz 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2755 "2010-09-21T12:28:32Z")
> [@martu](#): > > First time in Brewfest for me and so far really loving it apart from the bloody Ram. Any tips? Also how do I know if I am completely smashed? I was expecting a debuff to appear but unless I’m being dumb I couldn’t see it. [WoW Wiki](http://www.wowwiki.com/Brewfest) has some pretty good tips on Ram Racing for either faction. The key to successful keg delivery is to pay attention, as triggering the apple barrels isn’t 100% guaranteed, and it’s better to double back than to proc exhaustion. Triggering the endpoints isn’t 100% guaranteed either, so keep an eye on that too. You have to watch your chat box for your drunk level. You’ll get a message saying you’re tipsy, drunk, then completely smashed. If you miss the messages, you’ll know you’re smashed if you occasionally stun yourself puking. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2756 "2010-09-21T13:24:21Z")
Got all the Brewfest achievements last night that don’t require tokens (except riding the brewfest mount; which I’ll wait to do until I know whether or not I’ll get a mount to drop). I jumped off the TB elevator to get the “falling 65 feet while smashed” one, while I was there zapping pink elephants. Once you get comfortable with riding the rams, I think they’re really fun. I’m looking forward to doing them every day. I just hope I get the chance to do enough dailies this week to get all the tokens I need for the Brewmaster achievements. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2757 "2010-09-21T13:27:16Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > > [@martu](#): > > > > First time in Brewfest for me and so far really loving it apart from the bloody Ram. Any tips? Also how do I know if I am completely smashed? I was expecting a debuff to appear but unless I’m being dumb I couldn’t see it. > > [WoW Wiki](http://www.wowwiki.com/Brewfest) has some pretty good tips on Ram Racing for either faction. The key to successful keg delivery is to pay attention, as triggering the apple barrels isn’t 100% guaranteed, and it’s better to double back than to proc exhaustion. Triggering the endpoints isn’t 100% guaranteed either, so keep an eye on that too. > > You have to watch your chat box for your drunk level. You’ll get a message saying you’re tipsy, drunk, then completely smashed. If you miss the messages, you’ll know you’re smashed if you occasionally stun yourself puking. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2758 "2010-09-21T13:31:55Z")
No Lich King kill… sadly. Logged on Sunday, got the raid started and only 4 people showed up. Half an hour later people were still either afk or not online so we called it. I think I’m finally over it, I no longer care if I kill him, in fact I don’t really want to anymore. I finally got that blasted shield from Marrowgar though, man that thing is so pretty. Queue’d up for a random right after I had enchanted it so I could have some fun Brewfest has been good to me so far, picked up the DPS trinket for my hunter and the stamina trinkets for my DK and paladin tank on the first couple of runs so I’m happy about that. The Black Heart refuses to drop for my DK, even after two hours in regular ToC. Now I just have to cross my fingers for the brewfest mounts, I saw two people get them yesterday. If not, I think I’ll be able to get Brewmaster on the rest of my characters, I only need the pony keg and Brew of the Month club for each of them. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2759 "2010-09-21T13:46:48Z")
I’m assuming there is some kind of caster/healing trinket that drops from Direbrew, but if there is I didn’t see it in about 8 runs yesterday. Thankfully it only takes about 30 seconds to kill him. Maybe 2 minutes from the time you put yourself in queue until you’re finished and back where you started. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2760 "2010-09-21T14:32:15Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > > [@martu](#): > > > > First time in Brewfest for me and so far really loving it apart from the bloody Ram. Any tips? Also how do I know if I am completely smashed? I was expecting a debuff to appear but unless I’m being dumb I couldn’t see it. > > [WoW Wiki](http://www.wowwiki.com/Brewfest) has some pretty good tips on Ram Racing for either faction. The key to successful keg delivery is to pay attention, as triggering the apple barrels isn’t 100% guaranteed, and it’s better to double back than to proc exhaustion. Triggering the endpoints isn’t 100% guaranteed either, so keep an eye on that too. I keep my first bag open: that way I can see a barrel appear in it when I get it and disappear when I deliver it. It’s a lot more reliable than the animation, sometimes I’ve had a barrel still flying after me when I was almost at the delivery point. **Skammer** , yes there is. My holydorf used to have both that one and one with identical stats bought with tokens (I can’t look up the names here). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=139)