# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2881 "2010-09-24T22:01:39Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> There’s no way for players to tell (unless they’re on your RealID friends list) and I’m glad of this–I don’t _want_ people knowing who all my alts are, especially random strangers.

That’s what I figured - it’s probably covered under “privacy concerns”.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I definitely would not be doing a guild RP event at the entrance to Stormwind. That’s just begging the asshats to do what asshats do. I’d do those events in some scenic spot in a little used zone, and probably do the dialogue in guild chat.

Agreed. My GL’s reasoning was that holding the events there was good “publicity” for the guild, to hopefully attract new members in a more interesting way than spamming General or Trade with recruitment messages. But it clearly attracts more asshats than potential members.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2882 "2010-09-24T22:56:56Z")

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There was major controversy in one of the games over something like this a few years ago, and it may be the event\*\* Palooka\*\* was referring to…

From what little I almost remember, seems like a guild member died in real life. His guildies wanted to do an in-game memorial service type deal for him. Unfortunately, they did it in a pvp zone, and advertised the event in public forums. Asshats found the temptation to be true to their nature overwhelming, and raided the memorial service, completely ruining the event. Think the official GM response was something like “sorry, but there’s a pvp solution”.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2883 "2010-09-24T23:36:18Z")

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Yay, first Kodo. On my Tauren, too.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2884 "2010-09-25T02:58:34Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Is the ram mount much different from the one you get for being exalted in AV? The kodo is obviously the one I want, but with my luck, if I get any mount, it will likely be the ram…

I called it. Ram dropped for me tonight. It’s the same as the AV one, with gold barding instead of red. Also got the Brewmaster title.

Most satisfying of all–I smoked three different 'locks in a single BG. Did I mention the part about how I hate 'locks? Cuz I do. Demon humpers. There is no higher use for a cool down than a KB on a frakkin 'lock.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2885 "2010-09-25T17:58:56Z")

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Those things are hard to catch. I thought you target them and then right-click on the net?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2886 "2010-09-25T18:51:04Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Those things are hard to catch. I thought you target them and then right-click on the net?
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> Thanks
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> Q

Target them with a **left** -click and throw the net at them. Once they’re caught, go stand on them until the disappear and your quest tracker shows the count going up.

**Don’t attack them/kill them!** If you kill them, you don’t get credit.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2887 "2010-09-25T18:54:11Z")

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Thanks, **Mr. Rik** , I’ll do that!

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2888 "2010-09-25T19:01:24Z")

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Nothing but Frost Emblems off of the Direbrew keg-chest again. I did, however, manage to make enough tokens off of the ram racing to get the BotM Club and Brewmaster. Yay, me!

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2889 "2010-09-25T19:06:04Z")

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My draenei mage just got the remote …

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2890 "2010-09-26T19:05:39Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> > [@Quasimodem](#):
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> > Oh yeah. The guild is still active, but it’s like on auto-pilot. Most of the stuff in the vaults is meant for higher levels and we’re down to 8 members and they haven’t been online in months, some of them.
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> > I don’t understand: They can take higher level stuff and sell/auction it, right?
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> > Why don’t they?
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> > Thanks
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> > Q
> 
> Taking stuff out of guild vaults to sell or auction to add to your own gold reserves is usually considered a serious abuse of guild privileges. In most guilds, it will get you at least a warning, if not a /gkick. That’s the modus operandi of most gold farmers who hack other people’s accounts…the first thing they do is usually to sell all of the account holder’s equipment and bank stuff, then the second thing they do is generally clean out the guild vault that the toon they’re on has access to and vend it (because auctioning takes some time, which is what most hackers don’t have…the guild is going to realize something’s wrong fairly quickly, and the guild vault lets you know who took what out of it, so a report to a GM usually happens fairly soon. The GM will usually cancel all the auctions that the hacked toon has up, then suspend hte account that it’s on…so no money for Mr. Hacker).

**Jayjay** , does the above apply to me as well?

If I understand correctly, those items can’t be sold and MUST remain in the GUILD vault to be used ONLY by guild members and if I keep getting drops which I don’t want to auction or sell and deposit them in the guild vault, I have to then buy another guild section, even though about 99.9% was my own spoils\>

Also, for some reason I keep putting stuff like consumables and weaponry ( such as automatic weapons coater, and trinkets) in both the action bar AND bags. How do I correct for this?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2891 "2010-09-26T19:36:04Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> > [@jayjay](#):
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> > Taking stuff out of guild vaults to sell or auction to add to your own gold reserves is usually considered a serious abuse of guild privileges. In most guilds, it will get you at least a warning, if not a /gkick. That’s the modus operandi of most gold farmers who hack other people’s accounts…the first thing they do is usually to sell all of the account holder’s equipment and bank stuff, then the second thing they do is generally clean out the guild vault that the toon they’re on has access to and vend it (because auctioning takes some time, which is what most hackers don’t have…the guild is going to realize something’s wrong fairly quickly, and the guild vault lets you know who took what out of it, so a report to a GM usually happens fairly soon. The GM will usually cancel all the auctions that the hacked toon has up, then suspend hte account that it’s on…so no money for Mr. Hacker).
> 
> **Jayjay** , does the above apply to me as well?
> 
> If I understand correctly, those items can’t be sold and MUST remain in the GUILD vault to be used ONLY by guild members and if I keep getting drops which I don’t want to auction or sell and deposit them in the guild vault, I have to then buy another guild section, even though about 99.9% was my own spoils\>
> 
> Also, for some reason I keep putting stuff like consumables and weaponry ( such as automatic weapons coater, and trinkets) in both the action bar AND bags. How do I correct for this?
> 
> Thanks
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> Q
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First part of your question, if you’re selling pieces from the vault and putting the gold you get from them back into the guild vault as coins, that’s fine. That’s actually part of your job, managing the vault. No problem. Even as guild leader, I wouldn’t skim from the money you get by selling items. Just put all the money back into the vault. That both frees up space and puts more money into the vault for the guild. What I would do is decide how long something should sit in the vault before you decide it’s not going to get used. A couple of days near the end of that time (say you decide to clean out every other Friday or something), change the guild message to “Vault gets cleaned out Friday…use it or lose it!” or something like that. Then do your cleanout (I would generally only take non-consumables and/or green/blue items out and sell) and put the money back in the vault.

Second part of your question, nothing is actually STORED in your action bars. Everything is stored in your bags. When you “move” something to the action bar, all you’re really doing is putting a button on the action bar that connects to the item in your bag, so that you can use the item without having to open up your bag and rifle through it to find it. You SHOULD have everything on your action bars that isn’t an ability also show up in your bag.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2892 "2010-09-26T20:33:16Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Second part of your question, nothing is actually STORED in your action bars. Everything is stored in your bags. When you “move” something to the action bar, all you’re really doing is putting a button on the action bar that connects to the item in your bag, so that you can use the item without having to open up your bag and rifle through it to find it. You SHOULD have everything on your action bars that isn’t an ability also show up in your bag.

To give an example, the icons on your action bars are just like shortcuts on your Windows desktop. Let’s say you have an Internet Explorer shortcut icon on your desktop. That icon isn’t actually Internet Explorer - it just points to it so that you can launch IE without having to dig through your folders to find the actual program every time.

Your WoW action bars work the same way - they just point to the item in your bag or the skill in your skill window so that you don’t have to open your bags or your skill windows every time you want to use something.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2893 "2010-09-26T21:32:39Z")

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Part 1: Okay, understood.

Part 2: I think I was under the impression that the stuff was taking up bagspace as well as action bar space.

Another Q-uestion: When fighting a winged creature, does it help win the combat if one jumps while striking them?

About borean leather: I’ve been skinning right along near Nesingway camp and sending the pieces of leather to my mule Wollkie to auction. At some point (there are about 120 pieces in there) I’ll take them from the bank where they are stored and auction them.

Thanks for the help

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2894 "2010-09-26T21:52:15Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Another Q-uestion: When fighting a winged creature, does it help win the combat if one jumps while striking them?

If you’ve already engaged it (that is, if it’s already fighting you), probably not.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2895 "2010-09-26T22:37:47Z")

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I had exactly three things to do to complete Brewfest, since I wasn’t 80 last year. Eat a sausage, drink two ales, and kill Coren Direbrew. Poor Coren died ridiculously fast and I got a Tankard O’ Terror for my two minutes. Damn shame I don’t have a level 80 Shaman. Even if I started one now, Cataclysm would hit before I was done and the Tankard would be worthless.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2896 "2010-09-26T23:32:55Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Poor Coren died ridiculously fast and I got a Tankard O’ Terror for my two minutes

[Heh heh heh](http://www.complexactions.com/archive/137.shtml) 😛

Speaking of Brewfest, anybody else notice that, AFAICT, the game never once says “beer”? None of the available beers actually have the word “beer” in their names.

I wonder why that is. It’s not like avoiding calling it “beer” is going to deflect any criticism of the event promoting alcohol use. And they don’t have any problem with in-game beverages being called “wine” or “bourbon” or “rum”.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2897 "2010-09-27T00:58:55Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> > [@Bosstone](#):
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> > Poor Coren died ridiculously fast and I got a Tankard O’ Terror for my two minutes
> 
> [Heh heh heh](http://www.complexactions.com/archive/137.shtml) 😛

The answer to the question in the cartoon is obviously “gathering up frost badges and packaging them into neat little two-packs.”

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2898 "2010-09-27T01:46:40Z")

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Well, I finally got it, after we collectively realized that our idea of the timer for Moorabi’s transforms was totally wrong.

I wuvs my Red Proto-Drake so much. She flies like a big goon and her name is Flammie.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2899 "2010-09-27T10:08:00Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Well, I finally got it, after we collectively realized that our idea of the timer for Moorabi’s transforms was totally wrong.
> 
> I wuvs my Red Proto-Drake so much. She flies like a big goon and her name is Flammie.

Grats.

My pally now has everything he can get from Coren apart from the damned +Haste trinket. It dropped once but was ninja’ed by a bloody gnome warlock who will get no use from it. Arrggghhhhh.

My warlock doesn’t have any mounts but did pick up the pocket watch which was a big upgrade so very happy about that.

Oh and **Oakminster** re your hate of locks - that succubus turned you down didn’t she? You know the answer to that right? I’ll give you a hint - it’s no accident that polymorph turns things into sheep you know…

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/2900 "2010-09-27T13:01:59Z")

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I now have 4 Tankards o’ Terror amongst my 5 level 80 characters, and no characters who can use them. 😛

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