# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 156
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3101 "2010-10-06T00:38:17Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Speaking of mage macros, can you suggest a good macro that will attach my [Talisman of Resurgence](http://www.wowhead.com/item=48724) to my Frostfire Bolt? The trinket is in the second trinket slot. I hate trinkets with “Use” abilities, cuz I never remember to use them, so I figure a macro will help with that. #showtooltip Frostfire Bolt /use N /cast Frostfire Bolt Done. (where N is either 13 or 14 depending on what slot your talisman is in). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3102 "2010-10-06T00:46:19Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Speaking of mage macros, can you suggest a good macro that will attach my [Talisman of Resurgence](http://www.wowhead.com/item=48724) to my Frostfire Bolt? The trinket is in the second trinket slot. I hate trinkets with “Use” abilities, cuz I never remember to use them, so I figure a macro will help with that. Out of curiosity, what spec are you using? I’m arc, and don’t cast FFB very often, so I’d probably want to macro mine to Arcane Blast to get maximum use out of it… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3103 "2010-10-06T00:49:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > #showtooltip Frostfire Bolt > /use N > /cast Frostfire Bolt > > Done. > > (where N is either 13 or 14 depending on what slot your talisman is in). Thanks! > [@Oakminster](#): > > Out of curiosity, what spec are you using? I’m arc, and don’t cast FFB very often, so I’d probably want to macro mine to Arcane Blast to get maximum use out of it… This particular mage is Fire specced. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3104 "2010-10-06T00:59:55Z")
I’m thinking about going fire in Cata. From what I’ve read, it sounds fun. Frost is supposed to be competitive, but I think arc is getting the nerfbat… Also not so sure I’m gonna like being a damn sheep herder again. I like the WotLK AoE-fest style. My sheep button has dust and cobwebs on it, and I’d like to keep it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3105 "2010-10-06T01:20:47Z")
I have fun sheeping healers, though I am still a newb and waste time on Druids half the time \>.\< I like Arcane, and figured I was the only one who did. But again, I r newb, solo everything, and solo slowly. It’s nice being useful in PvP though; sheep and counterspell, muahaha. And OMG how much do i love thee, Spellsteal; let me count the ways! “Thank you for the wings, Mr Paladin” “Thanks for the HoT and belt-of-water, Mr Shaman” “Thanks for the…oh hell, just gave someone my fireshield, damn deflect!” I am like a kid at Christmas, and have been known to yell \ at people “No, don’t kill him yet, he still has buffs!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3106 "2010-10-06T02:12:38Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > I like Arcane, and figured I was the only one who did. My other mage is Arcane. [My level 80 draenei Fire mage, Svelexi](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&cn=Svelexi) [My level 40 human Arcane mage, Andraiya](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&cn=Andraiya) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3107 "2010-10-06T03:09:01Z")
Thanks, y’all. I too have auctioneer and have been VERY CAREFUL to enter numbers BELOW what auctioneer recommends. **SFG** recommended I do this, I believe? Example: 6 Frostweave cloths I set at starting at 3g and buyout at 5g. What appeared when I clicked CREATE AUCTION was 30 g and 50 g. Something similar happened last night and so I cancelled that item at that time. As I said I very carefully deleted the original numbers and entered the above single digits. I’m afraid this may have gotten by me before and people were wondering why I was overpricing my stuff. Has this happened to any of you? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3108 "2010-10-06T03:23:51Z")
So someone yelled out in chat that Wintergrasp was starting, and I was like, hey, why not? Never done a battleground before! Man, it was just chaos. I just followed everyone else and killed things. I have no idea what I was actually doing, or where my other party members were (are you supposed to stay with them?). And then I got a lot of achievements and I was just like, okay, going with the flow here! A question about heirlooms: From what I understand, you buy one piece of the gear, but it can be passed around to alts indefinitely. So I buy a heirloom with my lvl 80 Hunter. I send it to my lvl 5 Warrior. Warrior uses it, and then can send it on to a new Pally I make? I understand how some pieces are unusuable by certain classes blah blah blah but this one piece of gear can go around to as many alts as I want, but only one at a time? ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3109 "2010-10-06T03:28:14Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thanks, y’all. > > I too have auctioneer and have been VERY CAREFUL to enter numbers BELOW what auctioneer recommends. **SFG** recommended I do this, I believe? > > Example: 6 Frostweave cloths I set at starting at 3g and buyout at 5g. What appeared when I clicked CREATE AUCTION was 30 g and 50 g. Something similar happened last night and so I cancelled that item at that time. > > As I said I very carefully deleted the original numbers and entered the above single digits. I’m afraid this may have gotten by me before and people were wondering why I was overpricing my stuff. > > Has this happened to any of you? > > Thanks > > Q So I’m guessing that someone was making insane prices on their auction for and Auctioneer was undercutting the highest price? Because I go with what Auctioneer tells me all the time and my ‘usuals’ (skins and cloths) rarely expire. I think you just have to watch what everyone else is doing in the Auctioneer ‘Post’ window and price it from that if you’re having problems. I haven’t been too successful with gear on the AH and I’m just getting into the items from Disenchants so I don’t really know how much those are going for, but once you start regularly putting up the usuals you’ll figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3110 "2010-10-06T03:42:38Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > So someone yelled out in chat that Wintergrasp was starting, and I was like, hey, why not? Never done a battleground before! > > Man, it was just chaos. I just followed everyone else and killed things. I have no idea what I was actually doing, or where my other party members were (are you supposed to stay with them?). And then I got a lot of achievements and I was just like, okay, going with the flow here! WG isn’t really a battleground. It’s a pvp zone most of the time, with the organized battle happening on a two hour timer. I never make any particular effort to stay near members of my particular group, but it is usually a good idea to run with a pack of other players. Everybody on your side is considered part of the raid group. I usually roll with the group to Broken Temple WS, and fight until I get enough rank to drive a vehicle. Early in the game, I’ll grab a catapult and join the assault on the towers. Later in the game, I’ll grab a demolisher and hunt horde vehicles. Depending on your server and faction, WG can be easy honor/other rewards or extremely frustrating. On Elune, Allies pretty much own WG. Which means we can get the quests, use the vendors, and most importantly, raid VoA. Has to suck for the Hordies…they rarely win, so they get a smaller window to do all those things. > [@](#): > > A question about heirlooms: From what I understand, you buy one piece of the gear, but it can be passed around to alts indefinitely. So I buy a heirloom with my lvl 80 Hunter. I send it to my lvl 5 Warrior. Warrior uses it, and then can send it on to a new Pally I make? I understand how some pieces are unusuable by certain classes blah blah blah but this one piece of gear can go around to as many alts as I want, but only one at a time? That’s my understanding. At the moment, I have heirloom chest/shoulders/weapon on my druid, hunter and on my DK. The druid will eventually pass the leather stuff down to my shammy, and the hunter to my rogue twink…unless I spring for the sets made for those classes instead, which I may. It only takes 80 triumph badges for the chest/shoulders, and I think 300 or so stonekeeper shards for the WG weapon. It’s good leveling gear, but the experience bonus is what really sweetens the deal. 10% each for the chest and shoulders, stackable. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3111 "2010-10-06T04:22:36Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > I have fun sheeping healers, though I am still a newb and waste time on Druids half the time \>.\< > > I like Arcane, and figured I was the only one who did. But again, I r newb, solo everything, and solo slowly. It’s nice being useful in PvP though; sheep and counterspell, muahaha. > > And OMG how much do i love thee, Spellsteal; let me count the ways! > > “Thank you for the wings, Mr Paladin” > “Thanks for the HoT and belt-of-water, Mr Shaman” > “Thanks for the…oh hell, just gave someone my fireshield, damn deflect!” > > I am like a kid at Christmas, and have been known to yell \ at people “No, don’t kill him yet, he still has buffs!!!” Man, I’m the opposite PVPer to you. Wind Shear “NO! Bad mage, no arcane missiles!” “Ha! No Blessing of Kings for you!” “Ha! No Lightning Shield for you!” Purge purge purge… =P ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3112 "2010-10-06T05:41:34Z")
1. Marissa Everwatch on Argent Stand doesn’t have an inn. She’s just standing in the open air. I’m hoping that sitting **Wolkie** at her feet will rest him up. 2. I can’t go to Storm Peaks or Icecrown yet. I thought we could but we liked to have got our ass kicked by a couple of 79’s, so we flew back to Argent Stand where we’ll continue grinding tomorrow. 3. Okay, just thought of a question: what are Brewfest tokens good for? We have 10. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3113 "2010-10-06T09:00:47Z")
Brewfest tokens are used to buy Brewfest stuff from a Brewfest vendor. Some clothing, a keg you can set down and people can get mugs of beer from it (the keg is eternally reusable), the item that lets you sign up for the Beer of the Month Club (sends you a different beer every month). I don’t know if there’s anything you can buy for 10 tokens, but they will still be valid next year if you collect more then. Today is the last day of Brewfest; you have a gnome in the Brewfest grounds (yelling strange obscenities at people, along the lines of “Your posterior muscles are so finely shaped, do pass by again!”) who will be there only until today, and a goblin in the inn inside Ironforge who is there year-round. I don’t know where the equivalen to that goblin is in Orgrimmar, but I imagine the inn near the bank. Those same vendors sell a pet for money, a Wolpertinger. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3114 "2010-10-06T12:04:00Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I don’t know where the equivalen to that goblin is in Orgrimmar, but I imagine the inn near the bank. Those same vendors sell a pet for money, a Wolpertinger. The Brew-of-the-Month vendor in Org is in the mage training hall, in Valley of Spirits. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3115 "2010-10-06T12:38:54Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > A question about heirlooms: From what I understand, you buy one piece of the gear, but it can be passed around to alts indefinitely. So I buy a heirloom with my lvl 80 Hunter. I send it to my lvl 5 Warrior. Warrior uses it, and then can send it on to a new Pally I make? I understand how some pieces are unusuable by certain classes blah blah blah but this one piece of gear can go around to as many alts as I want, but only one at a time? Yep. In fact, if you want, you can strip one alt nude, mail his heirlooms to a second alt, log into that alt, etc. so you can really use them on multiple alts at a time as long as you log them out at mailboxes. My cloth stuff is on to its third alt now, as both my priest and warlock wore it leveling up and now it’s in the mailbox of my lowbie mage. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3116 "2010-10-06T12:42:56Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’m thinking about going fire in Cata. From what I’ve read, it sounds fun. Frost is supposed to be competitive, but I think arc is getting the nerfbat… > > Also not so sure I’m gonna like being a damn sheep herder again. I like the WotLK AoE-fest style. My sheep button has dust and cobwebs on it, and I’d like to keep it that way. From what I saw on the PTR (so this is lvl 80 stuff, and not actual cata tests), Fire = Frost on the training dummy. I ran with my main mage (so average ilvl is 241 for my gear…basicaly TOC 25 stuff). I averaged about 8700 dps on the dummy in both specs, with frost spiking much higher when I used cooldowns (10k +) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3117 "2010-10-06T15:39:54Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > > [@Oakminster](#): > > > > I’m thinking about going fire in Cata. From what I’ve read, it sounds fun. Frost is supposed to be competitive, but I think arc is getting the nerfbat… > > > > Also not so sure I’m gonna like being a damn sheep herder again. I like the WotLK AoE-fest style. My sheep button has dust and cobwebs on it, and I’d like to keep it that way. > > From what I saw on the PTR (so this is lvl 80 stuff, and not actual cata tests), Fire = Frost on the training dummy. I ran with my main mage (so average ilvl is 241 for my gear…basicaly TOC 25 stuff). I averaged about 8700 dps on the dummy in both specs, with frost spiking much higher when I used cooldowns (10k +) Interesting. I don’t guess you have any links to suggested specs that incorporate the changes to the talent trees? Also–at the moment, I’m using the engineering “enchant” on my gloves, where I click them for 12 seconds of extra haste. Would it be better to keep that–giving me an extra cool down–or switch to the traditional enchant that would do +spellpower to gloves? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3118 "2010-10-06T15:48:44Z")
FUCK. MY. LIFE. Video card crapped out last night during LDW. Guess what finally fucking dropped when they got to BQL? FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. FUCK. Never fails. That’s the \*second \*time I’ve missed the shield–first, because I left Prototype right away instead of milking them for one last night of loot, and now the \*one \*night I can’t raid because of a hardware failure. > [@Palooka](#): > > Maybe the hardware really can’t handle guilds of that size. You know, like how the servers can’t handle a million concurrent connections. Highly unlikely. It’s got to be a software issue, not a hardware one. They just don’t want to take the time to fix whatever code they did a poor job of designing in the first place. Really, from the beginning they should have designed guilds to hard cap at whatever number they could actually support through the UI. IMO that hard cap should have been higher than 500, but I wouldn’t have blamed them for not forseeing these megaguilds. The problem is that they allowed them to form and grow and are now cutting their members off at the knees with a kick in the nuts to boot. > [@Jas09](#): > > I wonder how many guilds truly have over 600 active toons… I’m sure there are some, but it can’t be that many. They’ve said that 99.9% of guilds will be unaffected. Given that measuring guilds weights a 600+ member guild exactly the same as a guild with exactly one member that someone uses for extra bank storage, I highly suspect that the number of affected characters is much, much higher. > [@](#): > > With guild leveling and guild perks I’m sure they want to avoid the idea of mega-guilds that band together merely to get the nice perks without actually being a coherent whole. They already have a system for dealing with that. They’ve limited the number of members you can get credit from, and you have to earn reputation with the guild before you can cash in on its rewards. What this means is that people who’ve been dedicated members of large guilds may get zero benefits from the new system as they’re shuffled around into sister guilds. Imagine that a large guild splits into a bunch of different related miniguilds for leveling, social, PvP, raiding, etc. If you transfer between them, you lose all credit for what you’ve done before, even though you’re technically with the same group of people. > [@Mithril](#): > > **SFG** , I am now respecced into Arms and am grinding out some ability in one handed weapons. ?? Arms uses _two_-handed weapons, not one-handed. Arms: one two-handed weapon, preferably a 2H Axe or a Polearm (for Poleaxe Specialization, the best of the specialization talents). Fury: two one-handed weapons until Titan’s Grip, then two two-handed weapons (must be 2H versions of weapons that can also be 1H; doesn’t work with a Staff or Polearm). Protection: one one-handed weapon and one Shield. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I wish Auctioneer would do a better job of ignoring those outliers, since it appears to undercut the “Bid” and “Buyout” prices separately. Auctioneer does exactly what you ask it to do, which is apparently to undercut the lowest price. If you want it to do something else, you either need to pick a new setting or just adjust the price manually. > [@](#): > > Speaking of mage macros, can you suggest a good macro that will attach my [Talisman of Resurgence](http://www.wowhead.com/item=48724) to my Frostfire Bolt? The trinket is in the second trinket slot. I hate trinkets with “Use” abilities, cuz I never remember to use them, so I figure a macro will help with that. You can either replace the N in the suggested macro with a 14 (second trinket slot), or you can just replace that line with /use Talisman of Resurgence. The number macro will work regardless of what you have in that slot; the name macro will always use that particular trinket regardless of what slot it’s in. Another option would be to macro your trinkets into a WOOO DAMAGE macro, which you can hit at times when you need the biggest burst (during Heroism/Bloodlust, at points when something needs to die fast, etc.). The macro should also contain any other abilities that are off the GCD. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Example: 6 Frostweave cloths I set at starting at 3g and buyout at 5g. What appeared when I clicked CREATE AUCTION was 30 g and 50 g. Something similar happened last night and so I cancelled that item at that time. Something to watch out for, Quasi, is to see whether you’re setting your prices \*per item \*or _per stack_. > [@kushiel](#): > > A question about heirlooms: From what I understand, you buy one piece of the gear, but it can be passed around to alts indefinitely. Correct. It’s exactly like a normal piece of armor, only instead of either being not bound at all or bound to one character, it’s bound to your account. You can pass it among your characters like it’s a white or gray item–you just can’t send it to someone else’s character. > [@Zeriel](#): > > Wind Shear “NO! Bad mage, no arcane missiles!” > “Ha! No Blessing of Kings for you!” > “Ha! No Lightning Shield for you!” > Purge purge purge… =P I love Shield Slamming things off people–especially HOTs. 😃 > [@Nava](#): > > I don’t know if there’s anything you can buy for 10 tokens, but they will still be valid next year if you collect more then. Actually, I’m pretty sure that the tokens disappear once Brewfest is done now. The tickets from the \*first \*year last forever, but not the ones from 2008 onward. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3119 "2010-10-06T16:29:26Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > > [@Koldanar](#): > > > > From what I saw on the PTR (so this is lvl 80 stuff, and not actual cata tests), Fire = Frost on the training dummy. I ran with my main mage (so average ilvl is 241 for my gear…basicaly TOC 25 stuff). I averaged about 8700 dps on the dummy in both specs, with frost spiking much higher when I used cooldowns (10k +) > > Interesting. I don’t guess you have any links to suggested specs that incorporate the changes to the talent trees? > > Also–at the moment, I’m using the engineering “enchant” on my gloves, where I click them for 12 seconds of extra haste. Would it be better to keep that–giving me an extra cool down–or switch to the traditional enchant that would do +spellpower to gloves? I’d say keep the haste; at high enough gear levels it does pretty good, and most (err, actually all) specs benefit from more casts = more procs = more dps. I don’t have the spec I tried out on the PTR handy, but it was based around Shatter / Fingers of frost / Brain freeze basically. With a priority based casting system, where if you have nothing up, spam Frostbolt. With Fingers of Frost up, spam Ice Lance. With Brain Freeze up, Frostfire bolt. With FoF and BF up, Frostfire. Worked pretty well; make sure to take any and all frost talents that up the dmg / cast rate / proc rate, and then I think I went for the haste talent in arc. Not sure what I did with the last 2 points. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3120 "2010-10-06T16:29:34Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thanks, y’all. > > I too have auctioneer and have been VERY CAREFUL to enter numbers BELOW what auctioneer recommends. **SFG** recommended I do this, I believe? > > Example: 6 Frostweave cloths I set at starting at 3g and buyout at 5g. What appeared when I clicked CREATE AUCTION was 30 g and 50 g. Something similar happened last night and so I cancelled that item at that time. > > As I said I very carefully deleted the original numbers and entered the above single digits. I’m afraid this may have gotten by me before and people were wondering why I was overpricing my stuff. > > Has this happened to any of you? > > Thanks > > Q It sounds like you left it on “per item”. Be carefull to check & set the “per item”/“per stack” button first, before you enter your price settings into your auctions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=155) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=157)