# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 163
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3241 "2010-10-08T17:17:27Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > If they did that without removing the Dal portals, people would still all hang around in Dal, because those portals aren’t as good. Removing the Dal portals at that point would be fine, because you wouldn’t be taking the feature away–just transferring it. > [@kushiel](#): > > I’m still a ways away from being able to buy more than one piece of gear, so hopefully by the time I have enough heirloom gear to make the $25 worth it the rumours of cross-server BoA mailing could come true! Fingers crossed! I know I’d love to have that feature myself. > [@kushiel](#): > > I probably could have gotten on my mount, rode to Org and back twice in the time I waited for that fucking zeppelin. You could have run, on foot, in faster time. That zeppelin is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3242 "2010-10-08T18:33:18Z")
There’s no longer an option to repair a single item. You repair everything you’re wearing and in your bags. The option now is to use your own funds or your guild’s. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3243 "2010-10-08T18:45:27Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > There’s no longer an option to repair a single item. You repair everything you’re wearing and in your bags. The option now is to use your own funds or your guild’s. Unless this happened \*very \*recently, which is possible, that’s incorrect. Guild repairs are a separate option that have been available for quite some time, but only if the GM enables them. As recently as a few weeks ago, I remember repairing individual pieces of armor. (In order to bring the remaining total low enough to use up the last of my gbank repair allotment, in fact.) ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3244 "2010-10-08T18:51:40Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > LOL. I’ve done that. Several times. My mage has been known to run an entire heroic with a fishing pole equipped. Also did…whatever they call that thing with the jousting at the start…ToC?..with my lance equipped all the way through the Black Knight fight. I remember for a few months, at least, the most common greeting in RDF Heroic runs was “Hey, \, _lance_!” ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3245 "2010-10-08T18:54:53Z")
Note to certain whiners ingame: How old are you, five? You a grown-ass guy. That said, in our alt run our rather undergeared war tank successfully tanked the oozes on Rotface using thrown weapons, although one of the other healers kept cleansing people IN RAID. Bah. Fortunately said cleansed were quick enough to gtfo and let the war pick them up. We got to P3 on PP before people had to go to bed, so it’s all good. Although I’m dreading trying to heal BQL – I didn’t do well last time. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3246 "2010-10-08T19:01:05Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > > [@Oakminster](#): > > > > LOL. I’ve done that. Several times. My mage has been known to run an entire heroic with a fishing pole equipped. Also did…whatever they call that thing with the jousting at the start…ToC?..with my lance equipped all the way through the Black Knight fight. > > I remember for a few months, at least, the most common greeting in RDF Heroic runs was “Hey, \, _lance_!” That instance has so many wonderful opportunities for fail. Like someone starting the jousting event before the 5th member arrived. Who ported in, unable to get a lance from the rack (because he had one in the bank :smack:) and getting slaughtered by the first three non-elite enemy jousters, while on foot, because he was the closest to them when they started. That was the tank, too, so had to rez him before starting the non-joust part of that event. Oh well, I’ve done an entire heroic Halls of Reflection with my fishing hat on instead of my t10.5 helm. My DPS went down a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3247 "2010-10-08T19:19:24Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > although one of the other healers kept cleansing people IN RAID. Bah. Fortunately said cleansed were quick enough to gtfo and let the war pick them up. We got to P3 on PP before people had to go to bed, so it’s all good. In his defense, good healers are quick on the dispel/cleanse/abolish disease button to the point where it becomes automatic. It can be a tricky adjustment to make. Both my healers are fast on the dispels, and even after doing Rotface a bunch of times it still takes all my focus and concentration _not_ to dispel the debuff as soon as I see it pop (I still go for the button but usually stop myself in time). Not that it’s an excuse to keep doing it, but if he’s unaccustomed to the fight I can see slipping up at first. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3248 "2010-10-08T19:38:55Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > In his defense, good healers are quick on the dispel/cleanse/abolish disease button to the point where it becomes automatic. I’d disagree. \*Decent \*players quickly buttonmash their dispels. \*Good \*players know \*what \*to dispel and _when_. In a raid situation, you should know what dispelables are going to come up on which fights, and how they should be dealt with. Note that I also changed “healers” to “players,” because healers aren’t always going to be the only ones expected to do dispels. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3249 "2010-10-08T19:40:27Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > **Yeticus Rex** , it’s a scam. (All Blizzard urls point to [Blizzard.com](http://Blizzard.com). You see the bottom link leads to a support article, but the real cincher is the one above, which leads to [noparse]“[infoverity-admin.us](http://infoverity-admin.us)”[/noparse]) I broke the links in your post to make sure nobody accidentally clicked on them. > > If you want to safely post suspected phisihing mails, you can use the [noparse][/noparse] tags to disable direct linking, by the way. (I didn’t use that when I broke your links because it breaks the quote function.) I thought I did truncate the links (even noted it next to link) so they would not work, but next time I’ll use the noparse tag. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3250 "2010-10-08T19:42:48Z")
Oh, yeah, on the Oculus blue drake front, guess what just dropped for Rumpole yesterday on his daily run? That makes one each for my two mains. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3251 "2010-10-08T19:48:50Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Skammer](#): > > > > In his defense, good healers are quick on the dispel/cleanse/abolish disease button to the point where it becomes automatic. > > I’d disagree. \*Decent \*players quickly buttonmash their dispels. \*Good \*players know \*what \*to dispel and _when_. In a raid situation, you should know what dispelables are going to come up on which fights, and how they should be dealt with. > > Note that I also changed “healers” to “players,” because healers aren’t always going to be the only ones expected to do dispels. Okay, I should have added the “raid-inexperienced” qualifier. Outside of a couple of raid fights, I can’t think of instances where you wouldn’t want to dispel any debuffs that came up as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3252 "2010-10-08T19:51:46Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Okay, I should have added the “raid-inexperienced” qualifier. Outside of a couple of raid fights, I can’t think of instances where you wouldn’t want to dispel any debuffs that came up as soon as possible. How about in HoR? There’s a debuff there that comes up as dispellable but is applied by a player standing in a void zone. As long as they keep standing there, it will keep getting reapplied. If you keep trying to dispel it, you’ll just waste GCDs and mana. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3253 "2010-10-08T19:54:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@Skammer](#): > > > > Okay, I should have added the “raid-inexperienced” qualifier. Outside of a couple of raid fights, I can’t think of instances where you wouldn’t want to dispel any debuffs that came up as soon as possible. > > How about in HoR? There’s a debuff there that comes up as dispellable but is applied by a player standing in a void zone. As long as they keep standing there, it will keep getting reapplied. If you keep trying to dispel it, you’ll just waste GCDs and mana. Sane people don’t run HoR. (There’s another debuff in HoR that deals major damage to either the target or everyone around him if dispelled. I think it’s the same boss (the one that comes after the second set of ghost waves), and you’re basically better off not dispelling anything on him.) ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3254 "2010-10-08T20:04:36Z")
Seeing as we’re talking about the Oculus, so not looking forward to the achievement where you need to use each kind of drake. I think I’ll skip that one! I did get Northrend Dungeonmaster though, which is making me want to go back and get the old world one. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3255 "2010-10-08T20:52:05Z")
Back to the open chat bar and not being able to do anything because of that. Last night, I noticed I had the letter “O” in there for some reason. So I just finished it with “Opulence. I has it!!”, which got me several LOL’s and one guy telling me to “jump in it”. Speaking of last night, it wasn’t a very good night for me at the last. I hadn’t had much sleep lately and was working on a quest involving 4 different colored cauldrons I was supposed to “disturb”, and was doing very badly when a "Private \_\_\_\_ (forgot her whole name, but it started with the word “Penny”…) came running up on her horse and stopped while **Wolkie** was eating and when he was finished I had him re-mount and salute - as she was an 80- and she bowed back to me. So we started back to work and next thing I knew, I had a bunch of dead bodies around me which needed looting and it was HER - removing all my obstacles from around the cauldrons! I asked about why she wasn’t looting and she told me she was “on a different quest” - does that make sense to y’all? So I returned to trying to finish my quest and then she sent me a request to group, to which I of course said “accept”. Anyway, she did her best to help me, but by that time I was so wasted from lack of sleep, that I died and had turned all red, so I sent her a message thanking her, but that I didn’t want to hold her up. She said she had a raid to go to, but I should message her later if I needed her help. I told her I was too embarrassed but also wrote I’d never forget what she did for me. Then she rode off into the night. “Who WAS that masked lady?” I don’t know, but I…wanted to thank her. God I must have looked like an oaf out there! But it was nice to meet someone good-hearted. Q ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3256 "2010-10-08T20:55:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Speaking of last night, it wasn’t a very good night for me at the last. I hadn’t had much sleep lately and was working on a quest involving 4 different colored cauldrons I was supposed to “disturb”, and was doing very badly when a "Private \_\_\_\_ (forgot her whole name, but it started with the word “Penny”…) came running up on her horse and stopped while **Wolkie** was eating and when he was finished I had him re-mount and salute - as she was an 80- and she bowed back to me. > > So we started back to work and next thing I knew, I had a bunch of dead bodies around me which needed looting and it was HER - removing all my obstacles from around the cauldrons! > > I asked about why she wasn’t looting and she told me she was “on a different quest” - does that make sense to y’all? Yeah, I remember that quest - there’s another quest in the same area where you’re supposed to kill off three chiefs, and the only way to get them to show up is to keep beating up on their followers. You pretty much have to commit genocide in that little sub-area to get the attention of all 3. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3257 "2010-10-08T20:57:06Z")
Quasi, just hit \ to get out of the chat bar. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3258 "2010-10-08T20:57:44Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Sane people don’t run HoR. Ha! It’s pretty true, though. I have simply given up - it’s nearly impossible to run hoR as a Blood Dk tak unless everyone else is plays perfectly. I literally have no margin for any error. I haven’t even been in raids that tough, just because I can’t do AoE aggro. It’s piss-easy for some other tanks, but I usually get splattered within Really, it’s just the same problems which plagued all of Wrath: AoE being too good, the easier dungeon access bringing players who don’t know/care/think about others. In the ICC heroics, though, these problems get magnified painfully. It wouldn’t be a problem to fight the mobs except that you’ve got from 5-8 at once and nobody CC’s anymore. They all just want to gather it up and explode it at once. No focus-firing, no holding back for tank threat to grow, not even priortitizing mobs. As a result, Forge of Souls is Tedious, Pit of Saron is easy and fun except that somehow I always wind up with some idiot who triggers the giant skeleton groups after Kirck and Ick, and Halls of Refelction is cool but agonizingly painful. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3259 "2010-10-08T21:19:15Z")
I was one of the healers on my alt. The other healer was on their main. I agree that it’s pretty ingrained to dispel (I’m usually top on dispels done), but it was a tad annoying since we’ve done Rot a bunch of times before and I specifically said “Don’t cleanse in raid” when I saw it happening. Oh well. Next week: Poking PP unless we’re all busy trying to figure out our new skillz. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3260 "2010-10-08T21:43:00Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Last night, I noticed I had the letter “O” in there for some reason. So I just finished it with “Opulence. I has it!!”, which got me several LOL’s and one guy telling me to “jump in it”. Hahaha! That’s one way to clear it out. 😃 > [@](#): > > So we started back to work and next thing I knew, I had a bunch of dead bodies around me which needed looting and it was HER - removing all my obstacles from around the cauldrons! > > I asked about why she wasn’t looting and she told me she was “on a different quest” - does that make sense to y’all? If there were dead bodies that you could loot, she could not loot them. Looting is generally mutually exclusive. So, either you tagged the mobs and then she killed them for you to be nice, in which case you get to loot them, or she killed the mobs herself to clear them away for you, in which case she could loot them if she wanted to but you could not. > [@](#): > > God I must have looked like an oaf out there! But it was nice to meet someone good-hearted. Lotsa good people in this game! And who cares how ya look–it’s having fun that’s important. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=162) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=164)