# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3361 "2010-10-12T20:51:56Z")
My Curse Client is checking in periodically as the patch updates. That’s a good thing, right? I only have a few add ons from them; Auctioneer, quest tracker and flight timer. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3362 "2010-10-12T20:53:28Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > It’s in this patch, and it applies to ICC and Ruby Sanctum, which has upset a few people. I’d say “upset” is putting it midly. 😃 I’m obscenely pissed off. Thanks for fucking over the majority of your raiders, Blizzard. Great idea there. > [@jayjay](#): > > I just had the most horrible thought. 4.0.1. is going to absolutely destroy my UI… It’s times like these that I’m really happy I haven’t yet bothered to give my UI a complete customization overhaul. If individual bits and pieces don’t work, it won’t be fun, but it won’t be game-breaking in the same way. All the same, I’m not relishing finding out what tools I’ve come to rely on will be broken tonight–especially not while also trying to deal with a new way of tanking that involves such joys as Revenge allegedly being bugged so as to cause \*negative \*threat. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3363 "2010-10-12T20:55:24Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > [@jayjay](#): > > > > I just had the most horrible thought. 4.0.1. is going to absolutely destroy my UI… > > It’s times like these that I’m really happy I haven’t yet bothered to give my UI a complete customization overhaul. If individual bits and pieces don’t work, it won’t be fun, but it won’t be game-breaking in the same way. All the same, I’m not relishing finding out what tools I’ve come to rely on will be broken tonight–especially not while also trying to deal with a new way of tanking that involves such joys as Revenge allegedly being bugged so as to cause \*negative \*threat. :rolleyes: You know, come to think, that one-week WoW vacation might be a blessing in disguise… ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3364 "2010-10-12T21:03:42Z")
FWIW, _most_ popular addons appear to be 4.0-ready already. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3365 "2010-10-12T21:05:17Z")
Bought an egg-timer today. Thinking of getting one of those boards that turns you upside down periodically… ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3366 "2010-10-12T21:06:46Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Bought an egg-timer today. Thinking of getting one of those boards that turns you upside down periodically… If you can fasten your laptop to it in the right position, you would never have to stop playing! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3367 "2010-10-12T21:07:44Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I just had the most horrible thought. > > 4.0.1. is going to absolutely destroy my UI…I can look forward to spending the next week checking for updates on my old add-ons and seeing what hasn’t and won’t be updated and looking for replacements that won’t make me want to pull my hair out. > > This is not going to be fun. [Wow.com](http://Wow.com) (aka [wow.joystiq.com](http://wow.joystiq.com) now) has an article up with a list of addons that have been updated, and links to them on Curse. For the others, just try enabling out of date addons and it should be fine for most of them. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3368 "2010-10-12T21:22:44Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thinking of getting one of those boards that turns you upside down periodically Hahahahaha! Or you could get one of those rigs that clamps around your ankles and hangs you upside down. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3369 "2010-10-12T22:14:44Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > For the others, just try enabling out of date addons and it should be fine for most of them. This would probably (though not always) work for a regular periodical patch (x.x.6 or whatever). The big number patches almost always change things so radically that most of the add-ons go kablooey. I remember first discovering this with 2.0.1. just before Burning Crusade and having to scrap the whole thing (Panther UI, waaaaay back when). ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3370 "2010-10-12T22:20:59Z")
Whew, glad I only have a map coord add-on. Oh, and the mail thingy so I don’t have to open each unsold item at the mailbox. It’s sad enough already. 😛 I’ve got a two-week virtual vacation coming up starting this weekend, so I doubt I’ll even get my talents in order by the time they all change again. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3371 "2010-10-12T22:22:16Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > [Wow.com](http://Wow.com) (aka [wow.joystiq.com](http://wow.joystiq.com) now) has an article up with a list of addons that have been updated, and links to them on Curse. For the others, just try enabling out of date addons and it should be fine for most of them. I just checked that article out. It looks like everything but auctioneer (as far as what I use) should be working fine. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3372 "2010-10-12T22:27:49Z")
For Quasi: > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Green = 3 shields = maximum protection > Yellow = 2 shields = medium protection > Red = 1 shield = minimum protection > > I believe the targets start with yellow/2 shields. You need to hit the target twice in a row with Shield Breaker, which will take it to no shields (the animation will go away). \*Then \*you need to use your charge ability. > > Really, the “training” is terrible. It teaches you to do a lot of things that will not work in an actual joust with an NPC. The whole system is just pretty broken. If you get frustrated, I woudn’t worry about trying to figure it out–\*everybody \*thinks it’s a poorly designed mess. Yep; what my sweetie was kind enough to tell me was: 1. Shields. Get your shields up 3 times before you enter combat; you will notice that with one shield up, you have red things rotating around you; with two, yellow things; with three, green things and you’re good to go. They last a minute, so no worries about them fading real fast. 2. Same goes for the other guy; you won’t strike a good hit unless his shields are down, but worry less about that at first and more about your own shields. 3. Basically…Shieldx3, and then attack. Whatever attack you use \ do one attack, then do a shield, to keep your shields up. When he’s running away, throw a shieldbreaker at him, then try to hit charge before he does. Then put a shield up. Rinse and repeat, and it more or less works for me. Shield x 3; hit him; shield; hit him; shield; repeat until he gives up or you get a headache. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3373 "2010-10-12T23:01:42Z")
Well, like most of the free world, I’m downloading some part of the patch at the moment. The weather is bad here, and my estimated time remaining is bouncing all over the place. as little as 33 minutes remaining, then it jumps to 75 minutes remaining, then 54, back down to 30, etc. Dunno if it will settle down enough for me to play tonight, or if latency will be to bad either, considering the weather. On the upside, if I’m not playing WoW, I think _Caprica_ comes on tonight… ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3374 "2010-10-12T23:04:36Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > > [@kushiel](#): > > > > Nooooo, I waited too long to preorder! Amazon and Best Buy are out of the Collector’s Edition, and Future Shop wants me to pay $1.99 for the great honour of the shipping date Dec 10-Dec 21. > > Well, mine isn’t the collector’s edition, but I’ll be in line at GameStop at midnight 12.6.10. I hope there’ll be some other guys my age or I’m going to stand out like a turd in a punchbowl! 😃 > > **Kushiel** , no stores like GameStop where you are? (But if it’s the collector’s edition you have to have, that will be a moot point anyway…). > > Sorry, my friend!☹ > > Quasi I must have the Collector’s Edition! This will be the first expansion launching while I play. So yes, I have an Electronics Boutique (Canada’s GameStop) and a lot of other electronics stores, but I also have to work that day and will not enjoy standing in line at midnight launch. I settled on ordering from the one online place that still had the Collector’s Edition in stock and hoping they’ll get it shipped promptly. An estimate is just an estimate, after all! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3375 "2010-10-12T23:10:43Z")
Are the new classes for old races unlocked? Can we make/race-change tauren pallies and troll warlocks yet? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3376 "2010-10-12T23:19:02Z")
I don’t think new race/class choices are included in this patch. Pretty sure that will happen when Cata drops. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3377 "2010-10-12T23:28:01Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Are the new classes for old races unlocked? Can we make/race-change tauren pallies and troll warlocks yet? The patch notes don’t say anything about new race/class combos. I’m still in the middle of downloading the new launcher, so I haven’t played the new patch yet. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3378 "2010-10-12T23:48:33Z")
You guys aren’t missing anything. Realms aren’t up; the up-time has been pushed back a few times now, with 5 pm. PDT \ being the last guess. Of course I keep trying anyway, but no cigar. SO FAR!! ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3379 "2010-10-13T00:03:25Z")
And…my character list comes up, yay! Now to see if I can get in…and open anything without lagging out the door… ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3380 "2010-10-13T00:12:47Z")
Well, now I get for free what I had to spec all the way in arcane for, previously. Guess it’s time to try another tree, as the arcane power that is now the penultimate spell is something I have never used, not once. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=168) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=170)