# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 194
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3861 "2010-10-20T17:28:43Z")
Aww, I like SFG’s post crits. But then I again I’m typically bored a work and grateful for any WoW discussion I can get. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3862 "2010-10-20T17:31:57Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > **SfG** , not to get personal, but your Wall O Text posts are really getting out of hand. You realize that there are other people in this thread capable of answering questions? And that you do not have to reply to every single post? Maybe try to not do the Wall O text thing anymore? Thanks. It does annoy me when I or someone else answers a question and she pays no attention to those posts, but otherwise I’ve got no problem with it. Spurs conversations and the like. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3863 "2010-10-20T17:35:03Z")
I finally got to do a quick raid on my warlock last night (yay for not being in pain). It was my first one since the patch drop. And. . .even playing my class incorrectly (I keep on forgetting to pop Doomguard at the onset), I still made top DPS, easy. I don’t know if it’s because destro 'locks are OP, or because I actually practiced the rotations quite a bit on the PTR. This was before I knew that hit gems were blue, too, so I still had some +Spirit gems in. After replacing those with +Int/Hit, I was able to reforge for some extra Mastery, though I’m not sure if I should do that or Haste (EJ has them ranked equally, last I saw. Real helpful. Of course, they’re also saying I should do Glyph of Imp instead of Incinerate, which makes me “hrmm”). G.N.E.R.D Rage was stupid easy. I just got a bunch of them and did a Wintergrasp. I think I might have to grind some honor, now that you can get most of the PvP gear without an Arena rating. Though I don’t know that I’ll be doing PvP very much, it’s still nice to have the option. Also, my imp is back. This makes me super happy. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3864 "2010-10-20T17:39:28Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Aww, I like SFG’s post crits. But then I again I’m typically bored a work and grateful for any WoW discussion I can get. I like them, too. Sometimes there is some repetition, but other times, she’s the only one who acknowledges or answers my question. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3865 "2010-10-20T17:49:06Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > **SfG** , not to get personal, but your Wall O Text posts are really getting out of hand. If you find what I have to say annoying instead of worthwhile, you’re more than welcome to put me on ignore. > [@Bosstone](#): > > It does annoy me when I or someone else answers a question and she pays no attention to those posts, but otherwise I’ve got no problem with it. I try to avoid doing that. Generally, when I do, it’s because (a) someone posted since I started composing and I didn’t catch it on Preview, or (b) there was some nuance in my intended reply that I think they missed, so I went ahead and said it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3866 "2010-10-20T18:08:24Z")
Another voice in support of **SFG** ’s mega-responses. I find them entertaining and informative. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3867 "2010-10-20T18:09:54Z")
Hate to disagree here, but I look forward to **SFG’s** postings, no matter what the length. That isn’t to say I don’t appreciate the rest of you for taking time to help me out - just that she’s my friend and had this been written about **Oak** or anyone else in this thread, I’d be writing this defending _them_ (not that they’d need it). And I think y’all know that, right? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3868 "2010-10-20T19:27:43Z")
I don’t think I’ve mentioned this yet, but I’m really loving the new XP from gathering system: you can chalk that up as one thing I think they got absolutely right. My DK is getting 2500 XP per node in Icecrown and Wintergrasp at level 70. I’m massively annoyed that I can no longer have the riding speed boost plus the permanent pet (or at least not until he’s closer to 80–I can’t remember if On a Pale Horse is 2nd or 3rd tier), but at least I’m getting a feel for his new Frost rotation. (Not that I use it much, but.) His DPS has been something like 1.3k, in terrible gear (a lot of it’s still his starter set), at 70. > [@jayjay](#): > > I find them entertaining Clearly, you need to get out more. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3869 "2010-10-20T19:38:58Z")
Bought Artisan Riding and didn’t have enough left to buy a mount, ha ha ha. But I’m sick of the gryphons anyway, I want a drake! So Heroic Stratholme it was. We were like 20 seconds too late. ☹ Group blamed it on Arthas, he glitched at one point when he was supposed to go into a building but stayed outside and killed zombies. Keep up, Mr. I’m-an-awesome-Prince-and-Pally! 😉 Did Heroic UP after that, but reins didn’t drop. Noticed there’s a chance with Heroic Oculus, but I would rather have my Huntard shoot himself in the head with his own gun than do that again. I’ve trick and treated my way through the Old World, will do Heroic Stratholme again tonight and hopefully make it so I can go through Outlands next. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3870 "2010-10-20T19:46:10Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Did Heroic UP after that, but reins didn’t drop. Noticed there’s a chance with Heroic Oculus, but I would rather have my Huntard shoot himself in the head with his own gun than do that again. In any case, you can only get the reins from Heroic Oc if you get random’d into it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3871 "2010-10-20T19:52:07Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > _angrily shakes fist_ I got hit by the tooltip freezing bug first time into the Headless Horseman thinger, got back in while the party was still fighting him, but now game froze when I left the party. Heheh. I ran HH twice with no issues, and a minor temporary lagspike-looking thing on the third run (among all my 80s). But when my spriest went, our resto-drood healer and one of the DPS both caught the cogwheel o’ doom. The tank actually died. No one dies in the HH event, NO ONE. Unless stuff like that happens. We still downed the HH; the rogue was evasion tanking the squashling adds and I burned down the detached head. But really. Having a skill position freeze out on this exceedingly annoying bug takes it from annoying to borderline-disastrous. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3872 "2010-10-20T20:02:40Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Heheh. I ran HH twice with no issues, and a minor temporary lagspike-looking thing on the third run (among all my 80s). But when my spriest went, our resto-drood healer and one of the DPS both caught the cogwheel o’ doom. Someone ( **Bosstone**?) already posted a temporary work-around for this. It’s a pair of commands that you can copy-and-paste or make macros for to turn your tooltips off and on. Run the one to turn them off as soon as you accept the dungeon invite; run the one to turn them on when the HH is dead. And spam party chat with an all-caps message not to mouseover the altar as soon as you zone in. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3873 "2010-10-20T20:11:51Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Someone ( **Bosstone**?) already posted a temporary work-around for this. It’s a pair of commands that you can copy-and-paste or make macros for to turn your tooltips off and on. Run the one to turn them off as soon as you accept the dungeon invite; run the one to turn them on when the HH is dead. And spam party chat with an all-caps message not to mouseover the altar as soon as you zone in. They weren’t mine, but they do work so far as I can tell. I made them into a couple of On/Off macros: I click Off when entering the instance, then once the pumpkin has been clicked and disappears, I click the On macro and continue about my business. Easy peasy. It does turn tooltips off, which is infuriating during loot time. You want those back on ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3874 "2010-10-20T20:12:58Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I helped capture the mine, and then everybody else took off and left me standing there by myself. 30 seconds later five Horde descended on my lonely butt. The Mine is particularly bad for that. Any number of random passers-by can just glance down the cliff and see you camped out there all by your self. It’s a lovely trap, though, if you can get a few rogues, droods in stealthy cat-mode, or night elves (damn shadowmeld) to wait with you. Why, yes, I do play Horde. Why do you ask? 🆒 > [@](#): > > Anyway, 19 more HKs and a Hallowed Helm, and I’ll have the title 😃 Grats indeed. That achievement is intense, and I’m glad Blizz didn’t nerf the violet drake to not automatically give Master Flying. That achievement deserves much more than another 280-speed mount. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3875 "2010-10-20T20:14:39Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > The Mine is particularly bad for that. Any number of random passers-by can just glance down the cliff and see you camped out there all by your self. It’s a lovely trap, though, if you can get a few rogues, droods in stealthy cat-mode, or night elves (damn shadowmeld) to wait with you. > > Why, yes, I do play Horde. Why do you ask? 🆒 Yeah, shadowmeld is a pretty damn unfair advantage to the allies in battlegrounds (and especially Arathi). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3876 "2010-10-20T20:32:31Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Yeah, shadowmeld is a pretty damn unfair advantage to the allies in battlegrounds (and especially Arathi). How is it any worse than Will of the Forsaken for the Horde? That’s a get out of freeze/CC free card that doesn’t…or at least didn’t used to…share a cooldown with trinkets… ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3877 "2010-10-20T20:33:13Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Bought Artisan Riding and didn’t have enough left to buy a mount, ha ha ha. But I’m sick of the gryphons anyway, I want a drake! So Heroic Stratholme it was. > > We were like 20 seconds too late. ☹ Group blamed it on Arthas, he glitched at one point when he was supposed to go into a building but stayed outside and killed zombies. Keep up, Mr. I’m-an-awesome-Prince-and-Pally! 😉 > > Did Heroic UP after that, but reins didn’t drop. Noticed there’s a chance with Heroic Oculus, but I would rather have my Huntard shoot himself in the head with his own gun than do that again. > > I’ve trick and treated my way through the Old World, will do Heroic Stratholme again tonight and hopefully make it so I can go through Outlands next. The nice thing about Strat is that you’re guaranteed the mount if you beat the timer (and most groups do). At worst, you might have to roll against someone for it. But the H-UP and H-Oc drakes are very rare drops (my mount-collecting priest does not have either of those yet). Speaking of mount-collecting, I picked up all of my Sha’tari nether rays yesterday! Woot! Now to figure out my next goal… ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3878 "2010-10-20T20:34:01Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > How is it any worse than Will of the Forsaken for the Horde? That’s a get out of freeze/CC free card that doesn’t…or at least didn’t used to…share a cooldown with trinkets… I think it does share a cooldown. And Allies have Every Man for Himself which does more or less the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3879 "2010-10-20T20:35:05Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Speaking of mount-collecting, I picked up all of my Sha’tari nether rays yesterday! Woot! Now to figure out my next goal… Not a mount, but have you fished up Mr. Pinchy and gotten the Magical Crawdad companion pet for your wish, yet? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/3880 "2010-10-20T20:43:06Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I think it does share a cooldown. And Allies have Every Man for Himself which does more or less the same thing. Still not seeing anything unfair about shadowmeld. Rogues and druids have much better stealth available to them…all a non-rogue or druid Night Elf can do with it is stand in one spot. It breaks as soon as he moves. It is handy in PVE when I need to lose aggro…but still, not at all unfair to the Horde. Tauren get their stomp thing, Blood Elves get that mana drain thing, trolls get a haste thing…all have some degree of usefulness in PVP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=193) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=195)