# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 208
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4141 "2010-10-27T02:52:24Z")
Well damn. It appears that my gaming PC just crapper out. I’d played for a bit after work, and then decided after dinner to sign on with my one 80 who hadn’t done HH today. Well just a couple of minutes after I’d signed on, the screen went completely black, and the monitor started displaying the “no signal” message. I powered down, checked all the cables on the outside, then opened the case and checked all the inside cables and they seem fine. Tried rebooting, and I just get those ominous beeps almost immediately, and nothing else. Wonder if the video card has failed. Guess I’ve got to see if it can be fixed tomorrow. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4142 "2010-10-27T03:05:07Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > That Arctic Fur is really valuable! It’s needed for high-end patterns, both for making and for buying. I know and I DO sell the fur, but the scraps no one wants. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4143 "2010-10-27T03:47:15Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > /run PetRename(“Grounding Totem”) This would be nice! However, pet names are governed by a fairly restrictive ruleset. Max characters 12. No spaces, underscores, numbers, or dashes. And there’s a filter so you can’t name your pet Arthas, Keristrasza, Shitbag, or Fuckwad. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4144 "2010-10-27T04:25:43Z")
Which is sad, because I really wanted to name my Elemental Cyan Scion. I had to setlle for Cyanus (my Mage is Cyranus). Also, I totally forgot Mages get [del]Bloodlust[/del] Time Warp at 85. That’ll make things more interesting. Plus, man, I love how Frost spec turned out. It’s fast and powerful now; I’m only level 67 and I’m putting out 1000 DPS easily. Ice Lance is weak, but it’s cheap and fast and seems to add a lot to DPS (I don’t know if it actually does, but it sure seems to). There’s more to do than spamming Frostbolt without being excessively complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4145 "2010-10-27T04:38:15Z")
Yeah, I went with frost as my secondary spec. Used the rename thing to name my pet Poseidin. I think my fire main spec still does better dps, but frost is fun to play. When I get Timewarp at 85, I’ll have to figure out how to tie a macro to /emote something from Rocky Horror when I cast it… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4146 "2010-10-27T04:38:20Z")
Heh. Lemme just say that mining in Icecrown at level 76 is a blast 😃 I really scored on Titanium - 5 veins, I think. One of them was pretty exciting; it was in that pit mine to the north, just west of the Shadow Hold. There was a level 80 skeleton miner right next to it, and there was also another player miner in the vicinity, so I landed my gryphon right on top of the node to sort of conceal it, then immediately attacked the skeleton. As soon as the skelly was down I went to work on the node, only to find myself under attack my another lvl 80 mob who’d dropped down from above. Somehow, I managed to finish mining the node without him interrupting me, then I battled him and took _him_ out. And I survived the whole thing. This was on my draenei arms warrior, so no healing or decent defense, either — just mad skillz 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4147 "2010-10-27T04:43:01Z")
Quasi–if you decide to try Wintergrasp, there are several quests you can grab once per week–including one to win the game, one to kill 10 horde, one to kill a horde vehicle, and one to kill a tower. They reward honor and gold. I made 52 gold and a chunk of honor from one game just a few minutes ago. As long as you have the quests, you get credit when anybody in the raid does the task, so it’s easy money. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4148 "2010-10-27T09:18:24Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Go figure. > > It’s not that they think Spirit is crap, it’s that Spirit is the Healer Stat. Still, I kind of wonder why they didn’t just do for mages and locks what they did for hybrid classes – make Spirit the hit rating stat and get rid of hit rating on caster gear altogether. Like they’ve done for Spriests, actually, it simply happens to need talent points. “Hit, what hit? I don’t need no stinkin’ hit!” seems to be the theme currently running through all my DPSrs; for example, the warlock needs some hit but her shadow bolts make it “5% easier to hit stuff” for a while after landing, so she’s on a crit-rappeling rampage. My MM hunter’s “insta aimed shot” and my firemage’s two “free and instant” spells also tend to crop up just as the mob goes and dies. It’s ok if we’re going fast enough to offload it on the next group, but it feels wasteful. “C’mon, I have all this hurt at the tip of my fingers and nobody to drop it on! Gimme a target!” Plus, I’m WAGging that won’t happen as often once the newer, fatter, bigger mobs are out. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4149 "2010-10-27T10:36:00Z")
New patch = new UI and I was wondering if you guys would let me know how you set up your chat frames. I currently have two – one for everything and one for Guild\Raid\Party\Whispers chat. For those that have only one chat window what do you turn off so that you don’t miss guild messages and whispers? Trade I would expect anything else? I’d like to have only one chat window if I can. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4150 "2010-10-27T11:18:40Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Quasi–if you decide to try Wintergrasp, there are several quests you can grab once per week–including one to win the game, one to kill 10 horde, one to kill a horde vehicle, and one to kill a tower. They reward honor and gold. I made 52 gold and a chunk of honor from one game just a few minutes ago. As long as you have the quests, you get credit when anybody in the raid does the task, so it’s easy money. Thanks, **Oak**! I’ll check it out! Also, I got the Sgt. Hartman daily during the night. Are there just three Halloween ones? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4151 "2010-10-27T12:43:09Z")
[QUOTE=martu] New patch = new UI and I was wondering if you guys would let me know how you set up your chat frames. I currently have two – one for everything and one for Guild\Raid\Party\Whispers chat. For those that have only one chat window what do you turn off so that you don’t miss guild messages and whispers? Trade I would expect anything else? I’d like to have only one chat window if I can. [/QUOTE] I’d probably turn off General and /yell depending on where you are. For whispers I have a nice little addon called WIM (WoW Instant Messenger). It pops up any whispers I have into a little box… sort of like MSN does when someone sends you a message. We actually scraped a group together for ICC10 last night, the raid leader was still sick so he didn’t come. The idea was to clear to LK so we could have a full night to work on him (AGAIN!), but someone, somewhere decided we should do achievements… that the majority of us didn’t know how to do. So we only got Lower Spire, Plague wing, and Dreamwalker down because we were wiping on the achievements so much. I kind of hope our raid leader comes back because he’s our MT and the replacement the co-raid leader found worried me a bit, I had to ask him 3 or 4 times on vent to taunt off me on Fester. Redid my action bars a bit so I won’t always be looking at the bottom of the screen and it’s working out pretty well. I keep misclicking Cleave instead of Heroic Strike on bosses, but that will just come with practice. Still hunting for those last rare pets I want, King Krush, Loque’nahak, and Arcturis. Then I get to name them all! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4152 "2010-10-27T13:05:58Z")
Anybody notice if they fixed the gear bug (the one that d/cs you if you click on a mage table, or HH shrine) with yesterday’s update? I’m tired of having to remember my tooltip macro. Oh, and the RNG gods mocked me yesterday by giving the HH plate helm, which my pally really really wants, to my priest, who can’t use it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4153 "2010-10-27T13:44:58Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Like they’ve done for Spriests, actually, it simply happens to need talent points. “Hit, what hit? I don’t need no stinkin’ hit!” seems to be the theme currently running through all my DPSrs; for example, the warlock needs some hit but her shadow bolts make it “5% easier to hit stuff” for a while after landing, so she’s on a crit-rappeling rampage. I don’t know about that. I may have missed something, but so far as I can see Mages have zero talents that affect hit chance. I suppose it’s possible it’s an inherent skill or something, but I’m pretty sure Mages and Locks just aren’t meant to pick up gear with Spirit on it. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4154 "2010-10-27T14:17:03Z")
Neither warlocks nor mages get a +5% hit spell or any +% hit spells. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4155 "2010-10-27T14:51:16Z")
Finally, a couple of more pieces I was waiting on: the Marrowgar bracers and the LDW ring. What’s funny is that both of these weren’t that important to me before 4.0.1, but the way they cut bonus armor off at the knees means that they’re now a lot more attractive. My “I’m a moron” moment: I’m so used to having +Stam as my only Majestic Zircon cut that I actually cut and socketed a +Hit gem in the new ring. :smack: Fortunately it only took me about 15 seconds to figure it out (when I went to cut the gem for the bracers), but still, what a waste. > [@rachelellogram](#): > > The draenei racial being raid-wide made NO SENSE whatsoever, anyway. FWIW, it was party-wide, not raid-wide. Still a bit unbalancing, though. Not to mention frustrating for raiders–a good DPS would work out two sets of gear so that they’d have one for when they could get a Draenei in their group and one for when they couldn’t. Welcome to the forums, by the way! > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > ETA: Unless, of course, that number in my Character window is already factoring in the racial. I think it does now. Try mousing over your Hit stat–the total number should be 1% more than what you get from +Hit. (At least it seems to work that way in Sleu’s Fury build, where +3% Hit is baked in to the spec.) > [@rachelellogram](#): > > /run PetRename(“NAME HERE”) That’s awesome! I’ll have to email this to myself so I can try it on my Mages. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Got kicked out in the midst of sending some borean leather to double L tonight. I had to log back in totally - with authenticator code. Yeah, a lot of people have been having problems with disconnecting. > [@](#): > > If someone IS questing, and they leave the carcass, I wsp if I can loot for the leather. They always say ok. This is one of the bonuses to being a skinner–you get to profit off other people’s work. 😃 Good on you for asking first, though most skinners will skin as soon as they loot instead of leaving the looted corpse. > [@](#): > > Only thing is, the game must have gotten wise to me, because instead of the leather, the spiders will sometimes yield fur scraps and something called nerubian chitlins. Soul food in Azeroth. Who’da thunk it.🙂 Silly Quasi, that’s Nerubian _ **Chitin** _. As in the stuff bugs’ exoskeletons are made out of. You could \*try \*frying it up, but \*I \*wouldn’t eat it. 😃 > [@](#): > > Anyway, the leather is a big money maker and gear is not - which surprised me. Most people will ignore a pair of frost shoulder pads that I undercut, and so I sell to the vendor. Anything with the item name in gray can go straight to the vendor. Anything that’s green will probably be worth more as Enchanting materials than as gear. If you have a friend with Enchanting, you could ask them to DE things for you, and then sell the mats. > [@Runestar](#): > > Well just a couple of minutes after I’d signed on, the screen went completely black, and the monitor started displaying the “no signal” message. I powered down, checked all the cables on the outside, then opened the case and checked all the inside cables and they seem fine. Tried rebooting, and I just get those ominous beeps almost immediately, and nothing else. > > Wonder if the video card has failed. Guess I’ve got to see if it can be fixed tomorrow. ☹ If you remember what kind of motherboard you have, and/or have the documentation for it around, you can probably get a better idea of exactly what’s wrong by the beeps. But my semi-educated WAG is that if you can’t even get the machine to [POST](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test), it’s not the video card. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Which is sad, because I really wanted to name my Elemental Cyan Scion. I hate to break it to you, but if it’s anything like Hunter pets, you would have been able to do CyanScion, with intercaps showing up. My first Hunter had a Raptor named CleverGirl. > [@](#): > > There’s more to do than spamming Frostbolt without being excessively complicated. I dunno, it seems like pretty much the same rotation to me. DF (FoF) \> FFB (FoF + BF) \> IL (FoF) \> FB. The main difference is that IL is now better than FB when FoF is procced. Well, plus you should be using your pet’s AOE to proc FoF. So that’s new. > [@Nava](#): > > My MM hunter’s “insta aimed shot” and my firemage’s two “free and instant” spells also tend to crop up just as the mob goes and dies. I call confirmation bias. 😛 I’ve “noticed” the same thing with any of my proc abilities (that aren’t off killing blows), and I’m quite sure it’s because I only get annoyed (and therefore remember) when there’s nothing to hit with them. > [@martu](#): > > New patch = new UI and I was wondering if you guys would let me know how you set up your chat frames. I use at least four windows on each toon: Chat (default): Contains everything except combat information. This includes Trade and General. Combat Log Info: Money loot, item loot, XP, skillups (though not anymore), rep gains, rolls on items, etc.–all the boring information that you generally don’t care about but sometimes need to check. Filter: Gchat, Ochat if applicable, BG chats, party chat, raid chat, whispers, and emotes On my raiding main, I have an additional tab that I switch to when raiding or PvPing when I want to only see the important stuff: DND: Raid, party, BG, emotes, yell, say, whisper The error messages and such also show up in all of the chat-chat channels. > [@Skammer](#): > > Anybody notice if they fixed the gear bug (the one that d/cs you if you click on a mage table, or HH shrine) with yesterday’s update? Can’t prove that it’s not there anymore, but AFAIK we made it through four hours of raid last night without anyong freezing up from clicking on a Soul Well or Mage table. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4156 "2010-10-27T15:08:31Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I hate to break it to you, but if it’s anything like Hunter pets, you would have been able to do CyanScion, with intercaps showing up. My first Hunter had a Raptor named CleverGirl. I absolutely refuse to use names without spaces. > [@](#): > > I dunno, it seems like pretty much the same rotation to me. DF (FoF) \> FFB (FoF + BF) \> IL (FoF) \> FB. The main difference is that IL is now better than FB when FoF is procced. Well, plus you should be using your pet’s AOE to proc FoF. So that’s new. My Mage was actually not high enough level to use Ice Lance before the patch, so that’s “new” to me. What I had heard in the past was that both procced Firebolt and Ice Lance were useless; no rotation got you better DPS than endless Frostbolts, aside from mixing in Deep Freeze on bosses after they added the damage component. Allowing Frostfire Bolt to be used with Brain Freeze aids DPS significantly, although I haven’t actually read EJ yet to see if it’s truly worthwhile now, and I vaguely recall hearing that the new Ice Lance is better but still not quite worthwhile. Edit: Elitist Jerks’ current Cataclysm Frost rotation: > [@](#): > > 1. Frostfire Orb, if cooldown is up. > 2. Deep Freeze, if cooldown is up and Fingers of Frost is active. > 3. Frostfire Bolt, if Brain Freeze is active and Fingers of Frost is active. > 4. Ice Lance if Finger of Frost is active. > 5. Freeze, if cooldown is up, Deep Freeze cooldown is up, and Finger of Frost is not active. > 6. Frostbolt. > > This may seem more complicated than it actually is. The basic rule is that you spam frostbolt and interrupt that spam for FFB on BF procs and for DF/IL when FoF procs. It is best to save BF-FFBs for a FoF proc. One can force FoF to proc twice with Freeze and should do so whenever you have DF active to take maximum advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4157 "2010-10-27T15:12:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Can’t prove that it’s not there anymore, but AFAIK we made it through four hours of raid last night without anyong freezing up from clicking on a Soul Well or Mage table. It’s not there anymore. It was in the patch notes–they fixed it. Thank goodness. I named my mage’s elemental “Frisson.” Mage is Fire as main spec so I won’t get to see it much, but it’s cool that they let us rename them. I discovered this last week but forgot to report it–though I did make several of my guildies happy by reporting it to them. So, question for the hardcore raiders among us: have your guilds begun discussing what to do vis a vis the 10 man vs. 25 man thing come Cata time? It seems like it’s got the potential to cause a lot of trouble, drama and bad feelings among guilds. We’re already wrestling with it, trying to decide whether the relative ease of 10 man raiding (not necessarily easier content, but easier to hand-pick groups for success) is worth the loss of cameraderie and guild unity that would come from doing 25s. We’re still sorting it out and I expect we will be for a long time–we’ve got advocates on both sides. I predict that a lot of guilds will go through rough patches and many will break up and realign. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4158 "2010-10-27T15:41:10Z")
> [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > I’d probably turn off General and /yell depending on where you are. For whispers I have a nice little addon called WIM (WoW Instant Messenger). It pops up any whispers I have into a little box… sort of like MSN does when someone sends you a message. Thanks I’ll check WIM out > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I use at least four windows on each toon: > > Chat (default): Contains everything except combat information. This includes Trade and General. > Combat Log > Info: Money loot, item loot, XP, skillups (though not anymore), rep gains, rolls on items, etc.–all the boring information that you generally don’t care about but sometimes need to check. > Filter: Gchat, Ochat if applicable, BG chats, party chat, raid chat, whispers, and emotes > On my raiding main, I have an additional tab that I switch to when raiding or PvPing when I want to only see the important stuff: > DND: Raid, party, BG, emotes, yell, say, whisper > The error messages and such also show up in all of the chat-chat channels. Just to be clear you have one chat window and many tabs am I right? If so which one do you have on display when, say, you’re doing dailies? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4159 "2010-10-27T16:04:10Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > My MM hunter’s “insta aimed shot” and my firemage’s two “free and instant” spells also tend to crop up just as the mob goes and dies. It’s ok if we’re going fast enough to offload it on the next group, but it feels wasteful. “C’mon, I have all this hurt at the tip of my fingers and nobody to drop it on! Gimme a target!” Plus, I’m WAGging that won’t happen as often once the newer, fatter, bigger mobs are out. The other one is the RNG god’s (I’ll call him Ran’Gor) amusing tendency to save up those massive 20,000-damage crits for when I’ve got the mob down to 500 HP 😛 > [@Skammer](#): > > Oh, and the RNG gods mocked me yesterday by giving the HH plate helm, which my pally really really wants, to my priest, who can’t use it. Last year, my paladin couldn’t get a Hallowed Helm to save her life. This year, after getting one from a Treat Bag early in the holiday, she’s getting one in almost every single Loot-Filled Pumpkin, in lieu of the mount or the plate helm :mad: > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I think it does now. Try mousing over your Hit stat–the total number should be 1% more than what you get from +Hit. (At least it seems to work that way in Sleu’s Fury build, where +3% Hit is baked in to the spec.) Nope - the +Hit on her gear adds up to 439, which is the same number that shows up in the tooltip. Got her Miss Chance down to 0%, though. > [@](#): > > Silly Quasi, that’s Nerubian _ **Chitin** _. As in the stuff bugs’ exoskeletons are made out of. You could \*try \*frying it up, but \*I \*wouldn’t eat it. 😃 Roughage! Last night I submitted a suggestion on the Suggestions forum: tighten up the hit box on Mirror Image, or perhaps just on male draenei. I entered the IF auction house and approached an auctioneer just as a male draenei mage cast Mirror Image while standing directly in front of that auctioneer. The perhaps-combined/overlapping hit boxes of the mage and his mirror images completely click-blocked the auctioneer. Meaning that no matter where I stood, or what camera angle I tried, I flat-out could not click the auctioneer - couldn’t even get the special cursor (stopwatch thingy?) to appear, and every click just selected the mage, even when clicking nowhere near him. My suggestion went on: "(No, don’t tell me to turn on nameplates/health bars - you know what happens when you do that in the AH. You get a solid wall of nameplates bouncing all over the place. I just moved to a different auctioneer.) Really, I can’t think of any reason for that hit box to be that big. It seriously made it impossible to click the auctioneer. And I suspect that mage probably knew it." ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/4160 "2010-10-27T16:13:57Z")
What’s the reasoning for giving spriests +hit for spirit but not locks or mages? Is it to reduce the need to carry two sets of gear for healing/dpsing? I’m not complaining, though, I love being able to use all my T10 healing gear to dps when needed without having to carry a bunch of lower-level +hit gear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=207) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=209)