# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 328
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6542 "2010-12-21T14:26:49Z")
Finished up Deepholm last night, stuck my nose in Uldum (just the caravan/escape quests) and ran Stonecore a couple of times. When I finished Deepholm I picked up the Therazine tabard to go with my Earthen Ring tabard. I only noticed last night that the Horde faction tabards (for instance Bilgewater) will give you rep in any dungeon, but the Cata faction tabs only give you rep in level 85 dungeons. I wasted two runs in SC before I realized I wasn’t getting any rep, when I could have been getting Horde rep (I never did Argent Tourney on this toon so I’m not exalted with any of the Horde races). One of the dungeon runs was 4/5 guildies but we had to pug a tank. Come on Doggies, level your tanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6543 "2010-12-21T14:45:14Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > One of the dungeon runs was 4/5 guildies but we had to pug a tank. Come on Doggies, level your tanks! 🙂 I did get in and tank for guildies (also 4/5 with one pug, a warlock, who did a good job cc’ing the elementals but a not-so-great job keeping his imp from breaking Makig’s (hunter) traps open). But yeah, been kind of antisocial in the game so far. Speaking of tanks, where the hell are the tank trinkets? I’ve now replaced every other piece of equipment, including a lot of it multiple times over, and every four or five quests I see a new piece that would have replace my old Wrath gear. And I’ve even seen a couple of dps trinkets drop; enough to fill out my nominal DPS set. But I’m still using my old Frost and Triumph badge tanking trinkets. Any of you 85 tanks want to tell me where you got your trinkets from? ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6544 "2010-12-21T15:19:23Z")
[QUOTE=Scammer] One of the dungeon runs was 4/5 guildies but we had to pug a tank. Come on Doggies, level your tanks! [/QUOTE] Sorry about that, I had planned to tank on Reins but I got yanked into Blackwing Decent to offtank. I’ll do my best to be there next time! [QUOTE=Tom Scud] Any of you 85 tanks want to tell me where you got your trinkets from? [/QUOTE] I don’t have them but there’s a stamina trinket off the last boss in Stonecore, an avoidance trinket from the big giant boss in Grim Batol, there’s also one in Throne of Tides. There’s one or two I’m missing but I can’t remember what they are. Be prepared to roll against DPS for them though, unless you’re running with guildies. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6545 "2010-12-21T15:33:34Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Oh, sorry for confusing Crowley and Godfrey. And of course, > > [spoiler]Sylvanas IS a chump. Down at the bottom of it she has a weak moral character. She was kinda an also-ran even in life, and did not improve in Death. She completely scrweed up her government via Varimaathras, and she’s a heartless soulless monster who hates all life. Blizz never once portrayed her or the Forsaken as very sympathetic. Almost everything they did of worth was in the past. The Dark Lady is many things but a chump?? She died fighting the Lich King while defending her homeland, a fight many would have run from. After being tortured, mutilated and raised as a slave she bided her time and eventually plotted her escape. She got her revenge on the thing that tortured her and now she leads a force that is not only holding their homeland from all opposing forces she’s actively expanding into other territories. For the Horde of course _ahem_. Yes she was almost hoodwinked by a plot from within but she still on top today is she not? She’s many things, heartless, ruthless and obsessive to name a few, but a chump no. But most importantly do you know what she is? She’s our Queen. As someone at Wow Insider put it: Horde for Life, Foresaken for eternity. ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6546 "2010-12-21T15:33:37Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Though contrarily my low level rogue is invincible outside of BGs, recuperate is really OP to be honest. Maybe at his level. In the cata zones it’ll minimize downtime, but you still have to be careful with your pulls or you’ll die quite easily (my 85 rogue’s evasion, battle readiness, and vanish seem to be always on CD, particularly during the TH Dragonmaw dailies). ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6547 "2010-12-21T15:36:37Z")
I keep getting these emails and was wondering if it’s a scam (it seems like an obvious scam to me): Greetings! It has come to our attention that you are trying to sell your personal World of Warcraft account(s). As you may not be aware of, this conflicts with the EULA and Terms of Agreement. If this proves to be true, your account can and will be disabled. It will be ongoing for further investigation by Blizzard Entertainment’s employees. If you wish to not get your account suspended you should immediately verify your account ownership. You can confirm that you are the original owner of the account to this secure website with: Questionable link removed Login to your account, In accordance following template to verify your account. - First and Surname - Secret Question and Answer Show \* Please enter the correct information If you ignore this mail your account can and will be closed permanently. Once we verify your account, we will reply to your e-mail informing you that we have dropped the investigation. Regards, Account Administration Team Blizzard Entertainment [http://www.blizzard.com/support/](http://www.blizzard.com/support/) World of Warcraft , Blizzard Entertainment 2010 I’m not trying to sell my account or anything of the sort…simply playing my character as usual. The email address at the bottom looks legit, but the URL for the site I’m supposed to go to doesn’t look right. Plus they are asking me to put in some pretty sensitive info (account creds, secret question/answer). -XT ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6548 "2010-12-21T15:40:05Z")
It’s a scam. Blizzard never asks for any info of any kind. They also don’t warn you that you’re about to be banned, they just ban. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6549 "2010-12-21T15:40:37Z")
> [@martu](#): > > The Dark Lady is many things but a chump?? She died fighting the Lich King while defending her homeland, a fight many would have run from. And did run from. And hid behind a wall. For a decade. Until they turned into dogs. But then the elves came around and waved a magic stick at them, so now they’re all better and not about to turn back into slavering beasts and murder their new friends nosirree. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6550 "2010-12-21T15:41:19Z")
In addition to the 5-man tanking trinket mentioned, there is a stam trinket near the very end of the Twilight Highlands quests (about 5 quests _after_ you get the zone quests achievement). That’s the only one I have, so I’m still using an ICC one for the other. And yeah, when the Stonecore heroic one dropped and I was there as DPS I soooo wanted to roll need… but the tank was a guild-mate. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6551 "2010-12-21T15:42:47Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > I keep getting these emails and was wondering if it’s a scam (it seems like an obvious scam to me): It’s a scam. It’s _always_ a scam. I think that the link should probably be broken in your post as well, since it’s likely a badly infected site. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6552 "2010-12-21T15:43:10Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > It’s a scam. Blizzard never asks for any info of any kind. They also don’t warn you that you’re about to be banned, they just ban. I’m guessing that if you click on the link they provide, it won’t go where the text of the link says it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6553 "2010-12-21T15:43:01Z")
I will bet you money that the first link in the e-mail doesn’t actually go where the text of it claims to. Fakeout links are common in scams. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6554 "2010-12-21T15:46:23Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > It’s a scam. It’s _always_ a scam. > > I think that the link should probably be broken in your post as well, since it’s likely a badly infected site. [del]Actually, mouseover shows that this site has parsed the link correctly so that it actually goes to Blizzard’s website. I’m sure it shows a different link if he were to mouseover that URL on the actual email.[/del] Whoops! You meant the first link. I don’t know about that one…it LOOKS plausible, but that may be, again, this site parsing the text **xtisme** pasted to the right link. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6555 "2010-12-21T15:57:00Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Better yet, drop that guild, transfer over to Cairne and join ussssssssss… It’s my Alliance toon. I’m still conflicted over whether to transfer to Cairne so I can send heirlooms to my BDL Horde alt or to go over to Alex and join Quasi’s guild. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6556 "2010-12-21T16:00:07Z")
I’ll report the post and have the mods change the URL if it’s infected. Sorry about that. ☹ -XT ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6557 "2010-12-21T16:07:55Z")
I tried it out and indeed the URL goes somewhere else than it’s listed. Definitely a scam. Not that I would have gone there and put in that information in any case. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6558 "2010-12-21T16:19:13Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I implied, without specifically stating, that I meant all the freshwater pools _other than the Deviate and Sagefish/Greater Sagefish_ pools. Well, I’m just totally confused, then. > [@](#): > > Also, this little bit from Hyjal had me roaring in hilarity and surprise that it actually went “live”: > > [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/kristoff\_mannheim.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/kristoff_mannheim.jpg) I loved that one, too! > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Also, question: Am I correct in my position that it’s pretty wasteful to enchant greens? Unless you’re an Enchanter who’s looking to level your own skills, I wouldn’t bother enchanting anything lower than a 333 Rare. And you might even want to wait for 346 Rares, which are what you get out of Heroics and from the JP vendor. > [@Headrush042](#): > > IIRC, the old “freshwater” pools were oily blackfin and maybe firefin snappers, though those all appeared in saltwater, as well. Now they’re saltwater only. I don’t remember Oily Blackmouth or Firefin Snappers coming out of anything but saltwater. I’d see them along the coasts, but never in a river or lake. > [@Nava](#): > > Standard abbreviation in my battlegroup, but in any case, if someone uses an abbreviation you don’t understand, don’t you ask? Sure I do, if I notice it. But if I’m pulling and somebody’s saying something that I don’t identify as being urgent? :shrug: > [@jayjay](#): > > They should at least have made it dart around quickly like the animals on Mt. Hyjal. Oh god, those fucking frightened animals? Most. Obnoxious. Fucking. Quest. _Ever_. Even the god-damned Frenzyheart gave you a net to catch the damned chickens with. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Any of you 85 tanks want to tell me where you got your trinkets from? Alchemy, Jewelcrafting, and boss drops. There are some decent BOEs, too, I think, like the… oh crap, what’s it called. Somethingornother Reply, the icon looks like a punch card. > [@xtisme](#): > > I tried it out and indeed the URL goes somewhere else than it’s listed. Uuuuuuuuuugh, never ever ever \*ever \*\*ever \*\*\*do that. Update your antivirus right now and run a full scan. Then if that comes back negative, pick up at least one more scanner and run _that_. If you’re lucky, it was just a phishing site; if you’re unlucky, just \*going \*there infected you with a keylogger. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6559 "2010-12-21T16:26:07Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > It’s a scam. It’s _always_ a scam. > > I think that the link should probably be broken in your post as well, since it’s likely a badly infected site. Yup to both points. I’ve gotten a couple of those emails on accounts that are not connected to my WoW account in any way. Oddly enough, I’ve never received one on the email account that is tied to my WoW account. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6560 "2010-12-21T16:27:40Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh god, those fucking frightened animals? Most. Obnoxious. Fucking. Quest. _Ever_. Even the god-damned Frenzyheart gave you a net to catch the damned chickens with. Wait…they do? You mean I’ve been killing myself on that damn daily quest trying to quick-click on 12 chickens who go out of their way to be the most annoyingly random pests possible unnecessarily? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6561 "2010-12-21T16:33:01Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Wait…they do? You mean I’ve been killing myself on that damn daily quest trying to quick-click on 12 chickens who go out of their way to be the most annoyingly random pests possible unnecessarily? Ditto on this. Makes me want to go strangle a wolverine-man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=327) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=329)