# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6682 "2010-12-23T17:17:24Z")

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Well, yes, I know exactly why I skipped Uldum (and most of every other zone). I’m just bemoaning my fate as a hardcore raider that led me to miss a bunch of cool stuff on the way to 85. 😃 Not that I’m not going back now to do all the quests I missed, but.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6683 "2010-12-23T17:23:22Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> _What_. WHY DID I SKIP ULDUM?!

Picture it: Uldum. Whatever century it is in Azeroth. You’ve been tasked by a gnome-created AI to ride inside a spherical flaming fusion core and take out ONE THOUSAND tomb-cursed gnomes. It’s beautiful.

Rollrollrollrolldumdedumdumdum…suddenly! SCREAMS! SIZZLING! FLYING GNOMES AND SPIDER WALKERS! MORE SCREAMS! Continuing for about five minutes (about how long it took me to amass 1000 of the little buggers). It’s just…beautiful.

ETA: And that’s not counting how they STICK TO THE FUSION CORE…so you’re rolling about 20 gnomes and an occasional spiderwalker around while you carve a swath of destruction and carnage on the dunes of Uldum.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6684 "2010-12-23T17:25:17Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Well, yes, I know exactly why I skipped Uldum (and most of every other zone). I’m just bemoaning my fate as a hardcore raider that led me to miss a bunch of cool stuff on the way to 85. 😃 Not that I’m not going back now to do all the quests I missed, but.

Right, you’ve got about 2 years before Blizzard comes up with any significant amount of new solo content, so it’s not like you need to gulp it up all at once.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6685 "2010-12-23T17:26:55Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Well, yes, I know exactly why I skipped Uldum (and most of every other zone). I’m just bemoaning my fate as a hardcore raider that led me to miss a bunch of cool stuff on the way to 85. 😃 Not that I’m not going back now to do all the quests I missed, but.

Reminds me of a question - what is compensation for level 85s going back and doing the Cataclysm quests they missed? Wowhead doesn’t say.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6686 "2010-12-23T17:31:37Z")

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> [@martu](#):
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> Reminds me of a question - what is compensation for level 85s going back and doing the Cataclysm quests they missed? Wowhead doesn’t say.

Probably the same as anyone at max level finishing quests: additional gold instead of xp. Plus personal satisfaction and enjoyment…the Cata zones are some of the best quest experiences I’ve had in this game. They’re just a joy (except for maybe the one where you have an (almost) invisibility cloak and you need to sabotage gunpowder kegs).

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6687 "2010-12-23T17:36:10Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Well, nothing happened after I gave him the rope. I’ll go back there when I’m done with my current chain, now that he’s had time to think about it.

Some people have run into a bug where he disappears at that point; logging out and back in should reveal him again. Head on down there and pick up the quest line again.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6688 "2010-12-23T17:40:31Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Rollrollrollrolldumdedumdumdum…suddenly! SCREAMS! SIZZLING! FLYING GNOMES AND SPIDER WALKERS! MORE SCREAMS!

I’m literally tearing up a little bit, that’s so beautiful.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Right, you’ve got about 2 years before Blizzard comes up with any significant amount of new solo content, so it’s not like you need to gulp it up all at once.

Well, I’m also pushing for exalted with all the new reps, and I’m getting awfully close to 9k Achievement Points. So I \*am \*kind of in a rush to experience everything. 😃

> [@martu](#):
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> Reminds me of a question - what is compensation for level 85s going back and doing the Cataclysm quests they missed?

As usual, XP converts to gold. I haven’t been paying attention to how much I’m getting per quest as max level, though. I’d WAG over 10g per, though.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6689 "2010-12-23T17:53:57Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Picture it: Uldum. Whatever century it is in Azeroth. You’ve been tasked by a gnome-created AI to ride inside a spherical flaming fusion core and take out ONE THOUSAND tomb-cursed gnomes. It’s beautiful.
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> Rollrollrollrolldumdedumdumdum…suddenly! SCREAMS! SIZZLING! FLYING GNOMES AND SPIDER WALKERS! MORE SCREAMS! Continuing for about five minutes (about how long it took me to amass 1000 of the little buggers). It’s just…beautiful.
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> ETA: And that’s not counting how they STICK TO THE FUSION CORE…so you’re rolling about 20 gnomes and an occasional spiderwalker around while you carve a swath of destruction and carnage on the dunes of Uldum.

I saw a video of it on Bob’s House of Video Games, but I thought it was some sort of machinima. Now I’m excited!

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6690 "2010-12-23T20:00:23Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> The Small Eggs are drops off bird creatures in lower-end zones in Azeroth. Look up “Small Egg” on [wowhead.com](http://wowhead.com) and see where the closest creatures that have them as loot are.

From Ironforge, fly up to Hinterlands and go to town on the owlbeasts there. They drop Small Eggs now instead of Giant Eggs. It appears that, like Sagefish/Greater Sagefish, Blizz thought Small Eggs were previously too limited in their availability.

> [@martu](#):
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> Mouseover macros for healing are always faster than click healing too to be fair.

Could somebody explain “mouseover macro” to me?

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I’m continually creeped out by the fact that stone is somehow able to wobble like that. :eek:

It’s the same magic/technology that allows our female toons’ boobs to bounce even when encased in plate armor 😛  
So let’s see…

My paladin is level 83, 95% of the way to 84, and still questing in Deepholm. I’m strongly considering turning off her XP until she finishes Deepholm so that she will be able to queue for those first couple normal dungeons that disappear from the LFD tool at level 84. And leave the XP turned off until she’s had the chance to run them 2-3 times each. What a silly idea that was, Blizz. But I’m absolutely _loving_ Deepholm. What an awesome job there, Blizzard! Also, “Stop it, you tiny, angry woman!” BWAH-HA-HA-HA!

My mage finished Hyjal without reaching 83, and I didn’t want to go straight to Deepholm with her since my paladin is also there, so she hit Vashj’ir and did just enough quests to ding 83 and then headed off to Uldum. Holy crap, the mobs there hit like a ton of bricks! Let me just say that Mana Shield really needs a buff - one hit is taking it down. OTOH, my mage really had fun using a big mallet to knock over stacks of Thieving Little Pluckers. And it’s a daily quest! Whee! (And just listening to the sounds those pygmies make is good for a LOL.) Also, I’m appalled that Adarrah hasn’t changed her clothes since Vashj’ir.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6691 "2010-12-23T20:04:20Z")

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Oh yes, that Little Plucker quest is my favorite kind of daily - quick, easy and amusing.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6692 "2010-12-23T20:12:14Z")

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Oh, and hooray! My paladin/alchemist _finally_ discovered the recipe for Elixir of Water Walking. I was getting worried about running out of those now that I’m not doing Dalaran fishing dailies any more.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6693 "2010-12-23T20:41:31Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Also, I’m appalled that Adarrah hasn’t changed her clothes since Vashj’ir.

She’s like Steve Jobs: she has a whole closet full of the exact same outfit.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6694 "2010-12-23T21:09:03Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> She’s like Steve Jobs: she has a whole closet full of the exact same outfit.

Oh yeah, that club that also includes Adrian Monk and Jeff Goldblum’s character in the remake of The Fly!

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6695 "2010-12-23T21:12:39Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> From Ironforge, fly up to Hinterlands and go to town on the owlbeasts there. They drop Small Eggs now instead of Giant Eggs. It appears that, like Sagefish/Greater Sagefish, Blizz thought Small Eggs were previously too limited in their availability.

I always had the best luck farming them off the dragonhawks in the Blood Elf zones. I wonder how the drop rate is for these owlbeasts? Is Giant Egg even used for anything anymore? It used to be part of the Cooking quest to get whatever-max-level-was-in-vanilla, which has been defunct and simply trainable for something like two years now.

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> Could somebody explain “mouseover macro” to me?

Sure! A mouseover macro is one that causes you to perform some action on whatever character your cursor is currently hovered over–that could be the character model, their portrait, or their raid frame. It’s used by adding the argument @mouseover to the macro. It’s impossible to use a mouseover macro by clicking it, because when you click a button, that’s what your mouse is over; they have to be keybound.

> [@](#):
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> It’s the same magic/technology that allows our female toons’ boobs to bounce even when encased in plate armor

Touche. … I don’t approve of _that_, either. 😃

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6696 "2010-12-23T21:19:11Z")

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Here’s an example of a mouseover macro:

/cast [@mouseover,help][@targettarget,help][@target,help][@player] Healingspell

The macro would attempt to cast the spell called Healingspell on, in order of preference: your friendly mouseover; the friendly target of your target (regardless of whether or not your target was friendly); your friendly target; and finally yourself if there were no other valid options. Note that this is “fall-through” logic: it won’t cast the spell on each of these things in turn, simply the first one it comes to that’s valid. If you want to cast the spell again on someone else, you need to use the macro again and ensure that that person is then highest on the list.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6697 "2010-12-23T21:52:23Z")

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Speaking of macros, does ITRPT stand for intercept and what does CD mean in connection with that, because I seem to have lost that function on my action bar.

And I’ve never noticed the aformentioned armor-encased bouncing boobs. I’ll have to pay closer attention. All I know is that **Wolkie** gets all excited in HIS armor when **Heather** does that deep sigh thing.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6698 "2010-12-23T22:01:31Z")

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Last night on one of the Briny Cutter quests, a level 85 began helping me kill some of those green swimming dragon things, so I asked him to stop and he got all full of piss and vinegar (anyone know if that’s volatile, btw?) and called me a “loser”.

Haven’t we had this discussion early on in my WoW career? Wouldn’t it have been polite to ASK if I wanted help? I was doing fine. Had three of them on me at once in fact and slew them all.

Guy finally disappeared, and I hate that he got the red-ass, but I mean damn.

Q

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6699 "2010-12-23T22:03:51Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Speaking of macros, does ITRPT stand for intercept and what does CD mean in connection with that, because I seem to have lost that function on my action bar.
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> And I’ve never noticed the aformentioned armor-encased bouncing boobs. I’ll have to pay closer attention. All I know is that **Wolkie** gets all excited in HIS armor when **Heather** does that deep sigh thing.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Q

I imagine ITRPT stands for Interrupt (an action/spell which causes a caster/boss to stop casting their current spell/ability) and CD stands for cooldown. The connection between them? Most obvious one was a question asking if your interrupt was available for use or on cooldown (unable to be used), but without knowing context, those are my best guesses.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6700 "2010-12-23T22:12:21Z")

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> [@JayRx1981](#):
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> I imagine ITRPT stands for Interrupt (an action/spell which causes a caster/boss to stop casting their current spell/ability) and CD stands for cooldown. The connection between them? Most obvious one was a question asking if your interrupt was available for use or on cooldown (unable to be used), but without knowing context, those are my best guesses.

My bad for not providing enough info, **JayRx1981**. The “CD” actually appears on top of the icon in the tray and I use it as a last resort before I’m killed. It seems to make all my other actions stonger for a few seconds. THE ITRPT appears in my macro tray and I thought it was bound to the CD icon, like RNGD and /shoot does for my crossbow.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6701 "2010-12-23T23:18:19Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Here’s an example of a mouseover macro:
> 
> /cast [@mouseover,help][@targettarget,help][@target,help][@player] Healingspell
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> The macro would attempt to cast the spell called Healingspell on, in order of preference: your friendly mouseover; the friendly target of your target (regardless of whether or not your target was friendly); your friendly target; and finally yourself if there were no other valid options. Note that this is “fall-through” logic: it won’t cast the spell on each of these things in turn, simply the first one it comes to that’s valid. If you want to cast the spell again on someone else, you need to use the macro again and ensure that that person is then highest on the list.

So basically, it eliminates the need to click? It turns Target/Cast into Point & Shoot?

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