# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 349
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6962 "2011-01-10T19:41:02Z")
Just checked my email here at work…good thing…he missed my home email address by one letter… > [@](#): > > Greetings, > > You should make sure the hard drive is working properly. > > - ScanDisk/Defrag: [http://us.blizzard.com/support/article/21144](http://us.blizzard.com/support/article/21144) > > In order to troubleshoot this issue further for you, we will need to collect some diagnostic information about your computer and your game error and log files. Please email me your dxdiag.txt, msinfo.txt, and your World of Warcraft error and log files to your reply for further diagnosis. > > To obtain the systems diagnostic files, follow the instructions below: > > For Windows XP/2000: > > Important Note: Please reboot your system prior to creating the dxdiag and msinfo files. > > 1. Click on Start. > 2. Click on Run. > 3. Type in DXDIAG and press Enter or click OK, this will open the DirectX diagnostic tool. Run the DirectDraw, Direct3D and DirectSound tests found under the Display and Sound tabs before creating the dxdiag.txt file. > 4. Click on the Save All Information Button (save this file to your windows desktop and name it dxdiag). > 5. Click on the More Help tab and open the Microsoft system information tool (MSInfo). > 6. Click on File and choose Export (save this file to your windows desktop as a text file and name it MSInfo). Please make sure to save this file as a .txt file and NOT as a .nfo file. > > To obtain your World of Warcraft Error files, follow the instructions below: > > 1. Right click on your game shortcut icon and a popup menu should appear 2. Select Properties from the popup menu 3. In the properties window, click on the shortcut tab at the top if it is not the selected tab already 4. For Windows XP click on the “Find target” button, for Windows Vista/7 click on the “Open File Location” button, this should open the World of Warcraft folder 5. In the World of Warcraft folder there will be many files and folders, search for the Errors folder 6. Open this folder and you will find your Error files 7. Make sure you attach the .txt version of these Error files > > To obtain your World of Warcraft Log files, follow the instructions below: > > 1. Right click on your game shortcut icon and a popup menu should appear 2. Select Properties from the popup menu 3. In the properties window, click on the shortcut tab at the top if it is not the selected tab already 4. For Windows XP click on the “Find target” button, for Windows Vista click on the “Open File Location” button, this should open the World of Warcraft folder 5. In the World of Warcraft folder there will be many files and folders, search for the Logs folder 6. Open this folder and you will find your Log files, attach these files to a reply email > > Now attach the msinfo.txt, dxdiag.txt, your game error .txt files and your game log files to your reply email. > > Some email programs limit the amount of attachments you can send. If possible please archive the files you are sending in Zip format. This will compile all of the files into a single archive which can make it easier to email. > Regards, > > Sean M. > Customer Services > Blizzard Entertainment > [www.blizzard.com/support](http://www.blizzard.com/support) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6963 "2011-01-10T20:01:53Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Boy, Anduin got the Humvee horse, didn’t he? Nah, that’s my toon (Eilyssana) on the big one in front, riding her Argent Charger. Anduin’s in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6964 "2011-01-10T20:06:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Nah, that’s my toon (Eilyssana) on the big one in front, riding her Argent Charger. Anduin’s in the middle. Ah…I see. _You’re_ the one driving the oat guzzler. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6965 "2011-01-10T20:15:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 1.) WoW is a game. The entire point is that it’s fun. If it’s not fun anymore, there should be no reason to feel like you have to keep playing it. Even stepping away from the part of the game that isn’t fun anymore can be helpful. > > 2.) The only time I’ll nerdrage on people in randoms is when (a) they claim to know the fights and then clearly don’t or (b) are so ignorant of their basic class mechanics and/or terrible at playing that they have literally no place in a Heroic group. So as long as you make sure that you wait to queue for Heroics until you’re comfortable playing your class and spec, as well as having enough gear to push out the necessary numbers, and then be sure to tell your group what fights you don’t know, you shouldn’t have any problems with people who aren’t assholes that you’re better off avoiding, anyway. I’ve lucked out in that all of the Heroics I’ve done so far, I’ve done with a healer who knows me, and who knew that I didn’t know the fights from a hole in the ground. My DPS has been decent enough thus far, though, to prevent anyone from bitching. Though I did once pull trash during the first boss in H-BRC. Whoops. I apologized, and we didn’t wipe, but way to noob it out. Honestly, I think it’ll be better once I actually get to run a heroic for the second time (I’ve done four so far, and it’s been a different one each time). Each time, I’ve been so busy trying to figure out the mechanics, it’s been a mad scramble. But yeah, because it’s not been as fun, I’ve not been playing the end-game content as much. I’ve spent some of the time going back and doing content I missed before, or things that I can solo now that I couldn’t before. For instance, going back to Magister’s Terrace to get the Hawkstrider and the Orb Of I Wanna Be A Blood Elf. Netherwing Drakes are next. Here’s to grinding! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6966 "2011-01-10T20:37:48Z")
> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > Netherwing Drakes are next. Here’s to grinding! I wish I had gone for those before the Sha’tari skyguard mounts. Those things are awkward to fly and mess up my camera angle. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6967 "2011-01-10T21:23:16Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Sean recommends running Malwarebytes as well rather than MSE. I will probably download that and run it alternately with MSE. We’ll see. Personally, I would recommend MSE for your day-to-day scans, backed up with full scans by Malwarebytes when you’re feeling particularly paranoid (or, since you have a history of infection, perhaps anywhere from once a week to once a month). > [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > Netherwing Drakes are next. Here’s to grinding! Hoboy, good luck! It’s a pain. Fortunately not quite so bad now that it’s easy (relatively speaking) to farm the eggs. You will come to know that mine very, very well. > [@Skammer](#): > > I wish I had gone for those before the Sha’tari skyguard mounts. Those things are awkward to fly and mess up my camera angle. Also, they look like big flying vaginas. Just sayin’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6968 "2011-01-10T22:36:06Z")
I’m firmly in the camp that hard heroics are fun heroics… but does anyone else find it wierd how unforgiving the the first & third bosses in Heroic Stonecore are? 1st boss - get hit when he jumps out of his borrow and its a one shot (except maybe the tank). Guess i wouldn’t care about this one if it wasn’t so hard to tell where he’s going to jump out of the ground. Avoiding the smoke is pretty hard and requires some degree of luck, especially if you’re a tank trying to get agro on the spider adds. 3rd boss - eat one ground slam as a tank and its a one shot (or screw up and have him face the ranged during a ground slam). Eating just one shatter if you aren’t topped off will end things pretty quickly too (though i guess living living through it is much more feasible). I guess i’m just ranting, and i like my boss fights hard… but just odd to me that these two are seemingly sooo much harder than all other bosses. I could also throw the shadow boss at the end of Halls of Origination in this discussion, but good dps makes her a non-issue. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6969 "2011-01-10T23:31:16Z")
Took my paladin to the Argent Tournament to grind a few Champion’s Seals toward buying another mount, and… Geez, just how poorly-implemented is that jousting? I swear there wasn’t even another person in the entire zone, so lag shouldn’t have been any kind of issue, yet I was _still_ finding myself losing two shields simultaneously, over and over. Also, I discovered for myself that being level 85 is no help at all with the commanders on Battle Before the Citadel. I thought I’d try just attacking them straight out instead of doing the horse+lance thing. Yeah, that didn’t work very well 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6970 "2011-01-11T00:18:18Z")
> [@Clawdio](#): > > I’m firmly in the camp that hard heroics are fun heroics… but does anyone else find it wierd how unforgiving the the first & third bosses in Heroic Stonecore are? I’ve done all the heroic bosses now, and I don’t feel the first Stonecore boss is that hard. Fought him twice and both times we got him the first try, though he did eat a dps or two both times. Bosses that have killed me the most are probably Grim Batol dragon guy and Commander Springvale. Ozruk is nasty before tank and melee dps figure it out, I grant you that. At the other end there’s a few bosses that almost make me fall asleep, like that sand boss and the life boss in Halls of Origination for example. Casting piddly 6k lightning bolts at them hardly feels exciting while I wait for the tank to fall under 95%. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6971 "2011-01-11T02:03:01Z")
> [@Clawdio](#): > > I’m firmly in the camp that hard heroics are fun heroics… but does anyone else find it wierd how unforgiving the the first & third bosses in Heroic Stonecore are? > > 1st boss - get hit when he jumps out of his borrow and its a one shot (except maybe the tank). Guess i wouldn’t care about this one if it wasn’t so hard to tell where he’s going to jump out of the ground. Avoiding the smoke is pretty hard and requires some degree of luck, especially if you’re a tank trying to get agro on the spider adds. > > 3rd boss - eat one ground slam as a tank and its a one shot (or screw up and have him face the ranged during a ground slam). Eating just one shatter if you aren’t topped off will end things pretty quickly too (though i guess living living through it is much more feasible). The third boss is just evil. I died 6 times to him the other day, every one a tank-caused wipe, because I couldn’t keep up the dance. The first wasn’t so bad; there’s a reasonable amount of time to see and avoid the smoke, and the adds aren’t instant death for the squishies so you can take a bit of time rounding them up. (Of course I’m a DK tank so I think right now I’ve got about the best aoe aggro in the game with blood boil spam; may be harder for other tank types.) And the Grim Batol dragon guy is pretty much instant death if you’re in the wrong place, too; with the added bonus that if one dps goes down suddenly the fire adds become very tricky. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6972 "2011-01-11T03:38:40Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > Make a macro that contains the following: > > ```auto > > /console CameraDistanceMaxFactor 4 > > ``` > > This should let you crank your camera out to about 90 yards or so. Hmm, maybe I did it wrong but it didn’t seem to work. I went to the macro button created a macro with the above as the text, put the macro on my activity bar and then tried to click on it, press the button on the avtivity bar right click it, nothing happened. I have managed to randomly hit 7 times but seem to usually overshoot. shoot! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6973 "2011-01-11T05:44:07Z")
> [@adhemar](#): > > Hmm, maybe I did it wrong but it didn’t seem to work. I went to the macro button created a macro with the above as the text, put the macro on my activity bar and then tried to click on it, press the button on the avtivity bar right click it, nothing happened. I have managed to randomly hit 7 times but seem to usually overshoot. shoot! Actually, instead of a macro just type or copy/paste it into your chat line and hit \. Also, keep in mind that activating that command isn’t going to make your camera zoom out instantly. It just adjusts an internal setting that lets you use your mouse wheel to scroll out further than the default settings allow. So it may have done what it’s supposed to, but you need to manually zoom out to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6974 "2011-01-11T07:38:36Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > What rep level do you need to be with your guild to get the various rewards? My chars are still, I think, just at Friendly. We hit 10th level this weekend, and got the Alliance Killer achievement as well, so I think we should at least have the Guild Page and heirloom cloaks, and maybe something else? It depends on the items, you can see what’s needed for each thing much more easily through your guild info. There is one tab which lists all rewards, not only those currently available but all of them - and the rep requirements for each. > [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > Though I did once pull trash during the first boss in H-BRC. Whoops. I apologized, and we didn’t wipe, but way to noob it out. How does one say “segurola” in English? It’s someone who likes to play it safe, is there a one-word way to say that? I like segurola tanks, and one of the signs of a segurola tank is one who cleans that group of trash, having seen them pulled in a few times too many. That particular bunch seems to get pulled in about 1/3-1/2 of times, seriously… ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6975 "2011-01-11T09:09:21Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > How does one say “segurola” in English? It’s someone who likes to play it safe, is there a one-word way to say that? I like segurola tanks, and one of the signs of a segurola tank is one who cleans that group of trash, having seen them pulled in a few times too many. That particular bunch seems to get pulled in about 1/3-1/2 of times, seriously… Careful? Prudent? Cautious? Dinged 85 on my warlock at the weekend at the end of an epic cut scene which seemed very fitting. RDF queues for dps are ridiculous at the moment so she’s still not entered a Cataclysm dungeon. Oh well rep grinding for gear and some PvP to look forward to. 82 on my Holy Pally but more importantly 525 JC and now I’m making money, earned all of the gold back I had spent and more. Though the process of buying the JC recipes is slow it does create opportunities to make good money early in the expansion if you buy what sells\what is missing from the AH not what you necessarily need for your toon. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6976 "2011-01-11T14:37:06Z")
Supermegacautious, I guess. Thanks, I hate it when I have dictionary-farts. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6977 "2011-01-11T16:07:40Z")
Uh-oh. I tried signing into WoW briefly this morning, just to see if there was a maintenance window scheduled for today. When I double-clicked on my WoW desktop icon, the machine pondered for a moment, then displayed a WoW dialog box that said: “Launcher cannot obtain patching information. Please check your internet connection”. Tried it a couple more times, and got the same error. I _ **know** _ my internet connection is fine; I’m telecommuting today (as is my wife) and we’re both able to work without a problem. Furthermore, I’m not having any trouble surfing other web sites on that computer. So I go downstairs to our laptop. I’d installed WoW on that a few weeks back while my main computer was being repaired, and I’ve just gone ahead and kept it up to date since then. Tried starting WoW on it, and got the exact same error message. Crap. Did a quick check of the Blizzard technical forums, and found a sticky post dating from November with others having the same problem, but Blizzard doesn’t seem to have a solution. Several possible solutions are listed, but none of them say “this is the answer”. Just as a test, I tried disabling my security software (Kaspersky Internet Security), but still got the error, so apparently I’m not getting the error because Kaspersky’s blocking anything. Everything was working fine on Sunday when I was playing, and there haven’t been any changes to my computer since then – I didn’t even turn it on yesterday. Crap, I hate stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6978 "2011-01-11T16:22:39Z")
> [@Runestar](#): > > Uh-oh. > > I tried signing into WoW briefly this morning, just to see if there was a maintenance window scheduled for today. When I double-clicked on my WoW desktop icon, the machine pondered for a moment, then displayed a WoW dialog box that said: > > “Launcher cannot obtain patching information. Please check your internet connection”. It’s happening to everyone I know who’s playing–and some of them are on Macs. It’ll probably be better later today, since it’s, yanno, obviously Blizz’s issue. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6979 "2011-01-11T16:30:07Z")
> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > It’s happening to everyone I know who’s playing–and some of them are on Macs. It’ll probably be better later today, since it’s, yanno, obviously Blizz’s issue. Indeed as reported on wow insider: [Launcher and WoW are down its not just you/](http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/01/11/launcher-and-wow-are-down-its-not-just-you/) No folks, it’s not just you. WoW is undergoing maintenance today, as is usual. Maintenance has been going on since 3:00 a.m. PST / 6:00 a.m. EST and will last until 11:00 a.m. PST / 2:00 p.m. EST. The only difference is, this time around, the launcher isn’t even working, which is causing a lot of people to wonder if something is wrong with their internet configurations (thanks, no doubt, due to the lovely maintenance box). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6980 "2011-01-11T16:31:05Z")
I love how Blizzard preemptively blames your internet connection. ---
**Author:** ![adhemar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@adhemar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhemar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/6981 "2011-01-11T16:38:31Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Actually, instead of a macro just type or copy/paste it into your chat line and hit \. Also, keep in mind that activating that command isn’t going to make your camera zoom out instantly. It just adjusts an internal setting that lets you use your mouse wheel to scroll out further than the default settings allow. So it may have done what it’s supposed to, but you need to manually zoom out to see it. ah, no mouse wheel, just buttons. thank you though I will save it for later when I have a different mouse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=348) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=350)