# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7322 "2011-01-30T08:12:57Z")

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**Usumbij** left Redridge and is back on Bloodmyst Isle. There are 10 quests there I have yet to complete and he’s at 75% to level 20 so a couple more will put him on a mount which will mean I’ll have 4 alts (plus **Wolkie** ) mounted.

I love it when **U.** is asked a question ending with his name: “What does Argus mean to you, **Usumbij**?”

Heh. 🙂

Right. Doesn’t take much to amuse this ol man!

Q

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7323 "2011-01-30T11:08:42Z")

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up to lvl 82 with 4999 GS. Still can’t queue for Cata dungeons. What are the reqs? Loving the old world flight. Bought Master flying today. not sure I would have bothered if i knew it was just a jump from 280% to 310% flight speed. Not for 4k gold

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**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7324 "2011-01-30T11:32:53Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> up to lvl 82 with 4999 GS. Still can’t queue for Cata dungeons. What are the reqs? Loving the old world flight. Bought Master flying today. not sure I would have bothered if i knew it was just a jump from 280% to 310% flight speed. Not for 4k gold

First of all, delete Gearscore and forget it ever existed, if you need to tell anyone about your how good/bad you gear is, use average(equipped) item level.  
While you’re at it, start ignoring the colour of the items, it’s only a label these days, it has no effect on how good an item is, the amount of stats an item has is based only the slot and item level.

If you open the dungeon finder and mouse over a specific dungeon it will tell you why you can’t join. If I were to guess it’s because you haven’t discovered any of the Cata dungeon entrances yet, you need to physically travel to each dungeon before you can use the dungeon finder to enter it.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7325 "2011-01-30T13:14:34Z")

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Why would I want to do this - advantage/disadvantage?

Also, I was a little disappointed that **Usumbij** is not getting to ride a horse, and _will_ not get to until he’s exalted with SW. So we picked a Sabre that looks like the pet.

I’ll get around to naming all of them sooner or later.

BTW, **Tailspin** picked the Pinto (a girl’s horse;):)). She’s so petite though, she looks like a child on his back! 🙂 Hell, she ain’t but about two and a half feet tall over her waist! 😃

**Horaz** (Ho-rahtz) and **Double L** ( **Wollkie** ) are both on brown mares. Apparently one can’t get the Palamino till later?

Been trying to get Archaelogy as my second profession (I dropped leatherworking), but haven’t been able to click on it to let me do that?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7326 "2011-01-30T13:39:06Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Why would I want to do this - advantage/disadvantage?

At most you can have 5(depending on your level) pets that are ready for use at any time, but you might want to own more than that(gotta catch 'em all), if you have a pet that you want to keep but don’t need to have immediately available you can put it in the stables.

> [@](#):
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> Been trying to get Archaelogy as my second profession (I dropped leatherworking), but haven’t been able to click on it to let me do that?

First of all, Archaeology is a secondary profession same as Cooking, First Aid and Fishing, you do not have to choose between it and Leatherworking.  
You need to be level 20 to learn Archaeology, but personally I wouldn’t bother without at least epic flying(ie level 70), it’s an immense time sink and even with 310% flying you’ll be spending 90% of the time traveling between dig sites.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7327 "2011-01-31T01:35:54Z")

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No mailboxes in Stormglen?

What’s my alternative? I’d like to send some stuff out to be auctioned, so do I have to travel cross-country?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7328 "2011-01-31T01:58:08Z")

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Never mind. Did a quest in Tempest reach and found Gilneas wasn’t that far away! 🙂

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7329 "2011-01-31T03:27:36Z")

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> [@lizardling](#):
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> I finally got to make some Dreamcloth. However, I about died when I looked harder at the mats involved. Plus the requirements for however many you need for a crafted epic. Good lord. I about swooned. :eek: 8 bolts of embersilk, 30 volatiles. And then a weekly CD. And then the product is BOP which makes it tougher for players looking to buy said Dreamcloth-containing crafted epic off the tailor. …!

The current state of Tailoring is a travesty, if for no other reason than the abysmal Embersilk drop rates. I don’t know what Blizz was smoking when they decided that the most basic, fundamental material, the one thing that is required for every single tailoring pattern, should be so hard come by. And I just love the answers people give on the official forums:

“Lots of cloth in dungeons!”

Really? Blacksmiths and leatherworkers don’t have to run dungeons to get their most basic raw materials. Why do tailors? Run dungeons to get mats like orbs and other “special” stuff? Sure. Run dungeons to get effin’ cloth? Horsehockey!

“Just drink a Potion of Treasure Finding and farm those troggs in Deepholm.”

This suggestion has some merit, in that it does indeed result in more cloth (from the Tiny Treasure Chests the mobs drop after you drink the potion). Except it takes four different herbs to make the potion, and at current AH prices on my server having my Alchemist make the potion for me costs about 104g. Of course, as an Herbalist I can farm the herbs myself, though I’m looking at about an hour’s work there, since gathering these four different herbs requires visiting at least three different zones, and there is intense competion for the spawns. Or I could just buy the potion for about 160g. Whichever method is used, let’s say I get the potion. So I go to Deepholm, drink the potion, and then spend the 60 minutes of the potion’s duration feverishly farming the appropriate troggs. Once the potion expires, sit down and open all those Tiny Treasure Chests, and sure enough, I’ve got way more cloth than I would have gotten without the potion. Then I can turn all that cloth into bolts. Which provides me with enough bolts to make … one item. Which I can auction for 40-60g.

Whee. 2-3 hours of work nets me 1 skill point and a loss of 44-120g.

Of course, the “elitists” on the official forums defend this as “time and effort = reward”, making it painfully obvious that they’re completely terrified that if Tailoring’s difficulty is reduced today, then their precious heroics and raids will become facerolls tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7330 "2011-01-31T03:33:22Z")

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… on her Pinto “ **Judge** ”…

[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/tailspinjudge.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/tailspinjudge.jpg)

**Usumbij** on his Sabercat “ **Smiley** ” (smilodon;))

[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/Usumsmiley.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/Usumsmiley.jpg)

**Horaz** on “ **Lorelei** ”

[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/Horelei.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/Horelei.jpg)

and **Double L** (Wollkie) on “ **Ilona** ” (The German equivalent of “Eleanor”

[http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wollilona.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wollilona.jpg)

Yeah, I kinda wish they had more breeds available (ponies for dwarves, for instance, and those horses which are small in stature but have endless energy - Robin Hood was said to have ridden one - forget their names), but I just like that my toons can ride at all, so I’ll quit my bitchin’.🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7331 "2011-01-31T03:38:04Z")

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I found the Embersilk drop rates got better for me around Uldum - I don’t know if that is location or time period specific. I’m not a tailor, so I don’t have the bonus, but compared to the lower level Cata places it really felt bumped up.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7332 "2011-01-31T03:39:17Z")

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Never mind the “never mind” about not being able to find a mailbox. I was close to Gilneas, yes, but the side I entered was the North Gate which had people standing around bawling and some hanging from chains, bloated.

So I still need a mailbox.

Although I like the Worgen storyline, there are just too many limitations (the lack of the mailbox being just one). I feel that my characters are too “hemmed in”. Maybe it’ll get better as I go along…

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7333 "2011-01-31T03:40:51Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wollilona.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wollilona.jpg)
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> Yeah, I kinda wish they had more breeds available (ponies for dwarves, for instance, and those horses which are small in stature but have endless energy - Robin Hood was said to have ridden one - forget their names), but I just like that my toons can ride at all, so I’ll quit my bitchin’.🙂
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> Thanks
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> Q

You can get the mounts from other races, you just need to be Exalted with them (and the same faction, humans can’t ride war chickens!). But because the mounts don’t really scale, sometimes it looks hilarious. My Night Elf looks like he’s going to break his pony! And Gnomes on Elekks are awesome.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7334 "2011-01-31T04:05:44Z")

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Got “To Honor One’s Elders” tonight…finally got past Skadi by being careful and making sure I pulled down all the trash mobs in the gauntlet so all that was left were the two that spawned periodically before I harpooned Grauf.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7335 "2011-01-31T04:07:54Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> You can get the mounts from other races, you just need to be Exalted with them (and the same faction, humans can’t ride war chickens!). But because the mounts don’t really scale, sometimes it looks hilarious. My Night Elf looks like he’s going to break his pony! And Gnomes on Elekks are awesome.

I know some scale _up_…a tauren DK on an Acherus Deathcharger is an impressive sight. I think none of them scale down, though.

And flying over the bluelady village in Storm Peaks is much less of a visual jolt on an albino drake than on a windrider.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7336 "2011-01-31T06:14:41Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> I found the Embersilk drop rates got better for me around Uldum - I don’t know if that is location or time period specific. I’m not a tailor, so I don’t have the bonus, but compared to the lower level Cata places it really felt bumped up.

The problem I’ve had with Uldum is that the whole zone is so phased that by the time you’ve finished the quests 95% of the killable humanoids in the zone have been phased out of existence. All of the Schnottz minions are gone, except the ones you bomb for that daily quest. I’ve found they will drop cloth, but the problem is they come in packs of 10. Then all the Neferset tol’vir disappear from Neferset City after the big battle, so there are only a few wandering guards here and there in the “jungle” areas. Then there are the cursed gnomes… the ones that are there to be gnomebliterated don’t seem to drop anything at all, and the rest are so few and scattered… _sigh_

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7337 "2011-01-31T07:31:56Z")

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> **[Goblin Surgeon's Kit](https://www.wowhead.com/item=67110/goblin-surgeons-kit)**
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> An item in the Junk Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. Always up to date with the latest patch (10.1.5).

had that drop got 950 gold for it on the AH! Good times.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7338 "2011-01-31T07:42:49Z")

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> [@Taomist](#):
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> I wish they’d change it up a bit. Horde is going to own Tol Barad on AD until WoW is dead and gone.

I’m on Argent Dawn as well. Odesio, Mohammad, Inamorato, and Compadre are the four toons I use the most.

I think I’ve been to TB three times when we actually held it.  
Odesio

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7339 "2011-01-31T08:00:22Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I’m on Argent Dawn as well. Odesio, Mohammad, Inamorato, and Compadre are the four toons I use the most.

Hey, I have a handful of toons on AD too. The one I play most is my (currently) level 74 nelf hunter, Nouveus. I also have a dwarf warrior named Ensyld, a human mage named Andraiya, a draenei paladin named Phonon, and a nelf priest named Shaurind (who happens to be Nouveus’ younger sister). I’m an officer of \<Knights of Justice\>, though that’s kind of meaningless at this point, as our guild leader has been unemployed for a few months and unable to pay for his subscription, so the membership has greatly dwindled. Even I don’t play those toons much any more — though I have been trying to play Nouveus more lately — and only occasionally see any other guildies on.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7340 "2011-01-31T10:04:15Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> The problem I’ve had with Uldum is that the whole zone is so phased that by the time you’ve finished the quests 95% of the killable humanoids in the zone have been phased out of existence. All of the Schnottz minions are gone, except the ones you bomb for that daily quest. I’ve found they will drop cloth, but the problem is they come in packs of 10. Then all the Neferset tol’vir disappear from Neferset City after the big battle, so there are only a few wandering guards here and there in the “jungle” areas. Then there are the cursed gnomes… the ones that are there to be gnomebliterated don’t seem to drop anything at all, and the rest are so few and scattered… _sigh_

Have you tried Tol Barad? I have found the daily quests there give me the most cloth per hour with added mining (and I assume herb) nodes. The dailies in TH second best with mining and volatile’s to farm and fish too.

Dropped Isnscription for Alchemy on my 73 DK why is Goldthorn so damned expensive?

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7341 "2011-01-31T12:39:11Z")

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I guess if I had the money to waste, I could buy a celestial steed ($25.00) for **Usum** , huh?

But from what I read online, the novelty soon wears off, so I think I’ll save my money.

Q

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