# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7342 "2011-01-31T13:15:46Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I guess if I had the money to waste, I could buy a celestial steed ($25.00) for **Usum** , huh?
> 
> But from what I read online, the novelty soon wears off, so I think I’ll save my money.
> 
> Q

When you pay that $25, you’re paying for a celestial steed for EVERY CHARACTER YOU HAVE AND WILL MAKE. That also applies to the purchasable in-game vanity pets like Li’l KT and the Moonkin. So if you have the $25, it’s not a bad investment. But it’s not necessary, either.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7343 "2011-01-31T13:48:16Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> You can get the mounts from other races, you just need to be Exalted with them (and the same faction, humans can’t ride war chickens!).

Humans can ride war chickens - just not biological war chickens.

I want to get my worgen exalted with whomever just so I can buy him an actual steed; that running racial makes him look like he’s about to knot himself.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7344 "2011-01-31T14:18:09Z")

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The changes to the classic dungeons are messing with my head. My goblin shaman is 43 and for the fast five levels has been running Dire Maul and Scholomance - that just doesn’t seem right.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7345 "2011-01-31T14:37:18Z")

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Can anyone point me at a good guide as to where I can find the dungeon entrances for Cata? That is indeed my issue with queueing for these.

Also, when do you guys enchant your gear? Is there any point whilst I am still levelling? I would hate to spend the cash getting enchants on gear that I might replace the next time I get a good drop. Is there a minimum ilevel you aim for before getting an enchant?

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7346 "2011-01-31T14:51:53Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> Also, when do you guys enchant your gear? Is there any point whilst I am still levelling? I would hate to spend the cash getting enchants on gear that I might replace the next time I get a good drop. Is there a minimum ilevel you aim for before getting an enchant?

I don’t bother until I get something I don’t think I’ll be replacing any time soon. That is, unless I have an enchanter who just happens to have the mats lying around. But even then it’s not for the really good enchantments its for the lower lvl ones.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7347 "2011-01-31T14:54:11Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> Also, when do you guys enchant your gear? Is there any point whilst I am still levelling? I would hate to spend the cash getting enchants on gear that I might replace the next time I get a good drop. Is there a minimum ilevel you aim for before getting an enchant?

If you’re not an enchanter leveling your profession (or you don’t have one in your guild), I’d say the minimum item level to enchant stuff is 333 (which is the entry-level blue 85 gear that drops in level 85 cata dungeons (grim batol, halls of origination, and lost city)). You may want to hold off on expensive enchants until ilevel 346 (which is the gear that drops in heroic dungeons, the stuff you can buy at Revered from the various quartermasters, and the stuff you can buy for Justice points at the Justice point quartermaster, who oh by the way is upstairs above Garrosh’s throne in the Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar (or if you’re Alliance, presumably some place in Stormwind city)).

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7348 "2011-01-31T15:03:23Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> If you’re not an enchanter leveling your profession (or you don’t have one in your guild), I’d say the minimum item level to enchant stuff is 333 (which is the entry-level blue 85 gear that drops in level 85 cata dungeons (grim batol, halls of origination, and lost city)). You may want to hold off on expensive enchants until ilevel 346 (which is the gear that drops in heroic dungeons, the stuff you can buy at Revered from the various quartermasters, and the stuff you can buy for Justice points at the Justice point quartermaster, who oh by the way is upstairs above Garrosh’s throne in the Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar (or if you’re Alliance, presumably some place in Stormwind city)).

Cheers guys. My single best piece of gear is only ilevel 308, so I will happily not worry about this for the time being.

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On the whole how is my gear for a Fury warrior. Bear in mind most of this stuff was left to me by the account hacker. I was a tank before Cata.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7349 "2011-01-31T16:30:23Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> Can anyone point me at a good guide as to where I can find the dungeon entrances for Cata? That is indeed my issue with queueing for these.

Here you go: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SOrTnEKLnw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SOrTnEKLnw)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7350 "2011-01-31T18:08:45Z")

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Heh. Sometimes, I amaze myself. (Mostly by not drooling on myself, but still…)

Yesterday, I’ve got my main (MM hunter with beastmaster alt spec) working on Therazane rep. I descend into the tunnel with all the gyreworms for a couple of the assigned quests (Painite shards and killing gyreworms, I think), and I find Ricket, a goblin, offering up another Therazane rep quest: [Underground Economy](http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27048/). She hands my hunters a handful of bombs and tells him to blast chunks off the large crystal formations and gather the fallen bits.

Oh, yeah, and get away from the explosives after setting them, because they pack a punch.

Sure enough, I didn’t get far enough away after placing the first charge (got tangled up in a fight with a gyreworm) and got punted across the room. Pretty high, too. No damage from the explosion, though.

As I’m wandering through the tunnels, my NPCScan gets a hit on a rare-spawn tameable shale spider named [Jadefang](http://www.wowhead.com/npc=49822). I get as close as I can to it, in the normal tunnel system, and discover it’s 40 yards away… straight up. (Jewelcrafter focusing lenses are good for this; certainly a better use than laser-beaming friends in Orgrimmar.)

I check out the area, and it turns out that Jadefang is at the back of a cavern 20 feet up from the floor of a large chamber. Normally inaccessible.

There is another cave kind of adjacent to Jadefang’s cavern, to its right, at about the same level, and it IS accessible from behind (a tunnel looping up to it from the large chamber. In fact, this is where Pebble spawns for [Lost in the Deeps](http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26710)). But it’s too far to jump. :mad:

(I’m sure you can see where this is going…)

oom. Pretty high, too. No damage from the explosion, though.

As I’m wandering through the tunnels, my NPCScan gets a hit on a rare-spawn tameable shale spider named [Jadefang](http://www.wowhead.com/npc=49822). I get as close as I can to it, in the normal tunnel system, and discover it’s 40 yards away… straight up. (Jewelcrafter focusing lenses are good for this; certainly a better use than laser-beaming friends in Orgrimmar.)

I check out the area, and it turns out that Jadefang is at the back of a cavern 20 feet up from the floor of a large chamber. Normally inaccessible.

There is another cave kind of adjacent to Jadefang’s cavern, to its right, at about the same level, and it IS accessible from behind (a tunnel looping up to it from the large chamber. In fact, this is where Pebble spawns for [Lost in the Deeps](http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26710)). But it’s too far to jump. :mad:

(I’m sure

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7351 "2011-01-31T18:18:20Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> There is another cave kind of adjacent to Jadefang’s cavern, to its right, at about the same level, and it IS accessible from behind (a tunnel looping up to it from the large chamber. In fact, this is where Pebble spawns for [Lost in the Deeps](http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26710)). But it’s too far to jump. :mad:
> 
> (I’m sure

Editing ate the rest of the story. I guess that’s SDMB’s equivalent to the orchestra starting up while I’m accepting my award. :smack::smack:

Anyway, to make a long story short (“Too late!”), i execute a perfect grenade jump using the quest explosives from the lip of the tunnel to the entrance of Jadefang’s cavern, switch specs, and tame.

I’m sure this was the designed behavior for the bombs and the spawn, since taking no damage from Goblin engineering is utterly unheard of, and there is simply no other way to get to the rarespawn, which is both tameable (exotic) and drops a unique vanity pet when killed.

So I didn’t really hack anything. I’m still proud to have worked it out myself, at the first attempt. 🆒 Best grenade jumping I’ve done since Halo 2.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7352 "2011-01-31T18:29:55Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> The problem I’ve had with Uldum is that the whole zone is so phased that by the time you’ve finished the quests 95% of the killable humanoids in the zone have been phased out of existence. All of the Schnottz minions are gone, except the ones you bomb for that daily quest. I’ve found they will drop cloth, but the problem is they come in packs of 10. Then all the Neferset tol’vir disappear from Neferset City after the big battle, so there are only a few wandering guards here and there in the “jungle” areas. Then there are the cursed gnomes… the ones that are there to be gnomebliterated don’t seem to drop anything at all, and the rest are so few and scattered… _sigh_

Well, I don’t know about cloth drop rates, but after Twilight Highlands are fully phased there are still lots of hostile humanoids to farm. The Wildhammers or the Dragonsmaws (depending on your faction) in the ruins of Thundermar, the Twilight Cultists… and I can say that the mobs in Thundermar spawn with disturbingly high frequency, judging from the times my hunter has had to run away to avoid being overwhelmed and beaten to death by angry Dwarves with big hammers.

And the mobs do drop cloth. Enough to be noticeable, although I still don’t know if it would qualify as profitably farmable.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7353 "2011-02-01T03:14:44Z")

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Why can’t I switch dungeon difficulty? I’m trying to solo Heroic Wrath dungeons for tabard rep. First stop: the Nexus. I phase in, right-click my portrait, and Dungeon Difficulty is grayed out. What’s wrong here?

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**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7354 "2011-02-01T04:16:10Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Why can’t I switch dungeon difficulty? I’m trying to solo Heroic Wrath dungeons for tabard rep. First stop: the Nexus. I phase in, right-click my portrait, and Dungeon Difficulty is grayed out. What’s wrong here?

Have to set difficulty before zoning in.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7355 "2011-02-01T04:17:33Z")

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> [@Headrush042](#):
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> Have to set difficulty before zoning in.

:smack:

I had assumed it wouldn’t be available prior to being IN the dungeon so I didn’t even check until I was zoned in.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7356 "2011-02-01T07:54:32Z")

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What’s the best way? I flew to Darkshore from Bloodmyst and followed the arrow, but came upon a very rapid river I couldn’t cross without dying. Is there a better way?

I went back to Bloodmyst and flew to Ex and that’s how I wound up on AZ isle. I thought there might be a boat, but it goes to Moonglade.

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7357 "2011-02-01T08:35:40Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> If you’re not an enchanter leveling your profession (or you don’t have one in your guild), I’d say the minimum item level to enchant stuff is 333 (which is the entry-level blue 85 gear that drops in level 85 cata dungeons (grim batol, halls of origination, and lost city)). You may want to hold off on expensive enchants until ilevel 346 (which is the gear that drops in heroic dungeons, the stuff you can buy at Revered from the various quartermasters, and the stuff you can buy for Justice points at the Justice point quartermaster, who oh by the way is upstairs above Garrosh’s throne in the Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar (or if you’re Alliance, presumably some place in Stormwind city)).

Agreed, but at the same time, if you do have someone who’s just made a bunch of enchants for the g-bank, they _like_ seeing them used.

I think my GM is considering issuing a moratory on a specific shield enchant because we have over 20 of those parchments in the bank. Thing is, unlike something like “enchant gloves - crit” which can be used by pretty much any class in one build or other, shields aren’t even available to the majority of us.

Gratz on Jadefang, **gnoitall**. I have one of its red sisters - which I named Pebble, having tamed her before getting to meet the “real” Pebble.

**Quasi** : from Darkshore, head south, following the path. The quick river _is_ crossable, but the “old” path is broken; there is a newer path that looks more like a track made by many people and animals going that way. It may take you a while to find the spot where you can climb back up. Once you do, keep heading south.  
Alternatively, go down to the shore and swim south.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7358 "2011-02-01T17:55:49Z")

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I hearthed back from Vashj’ir for training. How do I get back there?

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**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7359 "2011-02-01T18:01:31Z")

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There should be a portal in the location where you capital city has portals to all the new zones.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7360 "2011-02-01T18:32:37Z")

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**Nava** ,

I swam it, but boy! it took a while! 🙂

Also, I hate to bring this up again, but maybe y’all missed it or I missed the answer?

**Exi** , (my Worgen) is in Tempest’s Reach right now and we’re STILL looking for a nearby mailbox. I have a bunch of stuff I’d like to send out for auction, but don’t know where to find one. I THOUGHT I could find one in Northgate in Gilneas, but that place is just an abbatoir.

He’s just a level 12 at present so doesn’t have a ride, so I know he’d a have to travel a ways, but I mean damn, I thought that just about every village had a mailbox?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7361 "2011-02-01T18:36:38Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Also, I hate to bring this up again, but maybe y’all missed it or I missed the answer?
> 
> **Exi** , (my Worgen) is in Tempest’s Reach right now and we’re STILL looking for a nearby mailbox. I have a bunch of stuff I’d like to send out for auction, but don’t know where to find one. I THOUGHT I could find one in Northgate in Gilneas, but that place is just an abbatoir.
> 
> He’s just a level 12 at present so doesn’t have a ride, so I know he’d a have to travel a ways, but I mean damn, I thought that just about every village had a mailbox?

If you go up to the little search circle on your minimap, mailboxes are one of the things you can search for. Just select it and then follow the map to the icon that appears. If there isn’t any mailbox in the area, no icon will show up on the map and you’ll need to go somewhere else.

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