# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 385
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7682 "2011-02-14T16:15:04Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > What advantage is there for me to tame an animal? Can I run with two? I suppose it can get expensive with the feeding, right? Does the second animal fight too? What happens if my toon changes to a cat? Do they then run as a threesome? > > Thanks > > Q You can only keep one animal out at a time. (On the other hand, you only need to feed one at a time, too.) In game terms, there are three types of animals: Ferocity (including kitties and wolves and I think the dog you start out with as a Worgen), Tenacity (including pigs and gorillas), and Cunning (spiders and others). Ferocity pets do the most damage, Tenacity pets are “tanks” who can keep the enemy off of you and who have better armor and more health, and Cunning pets have special abilities that can temporarily immobilize enemies. If you have one of each (a kitty, a pig, and a spider, say) you’ll have all the bases covered in terms of different situations where you might want one or the other. (Different animals have slightly different special abilities but practically it doesn’t really make a difference). However, a lot of hunters like to tame as many pets as possible because sometimes they wanna hang out with their gorilla friend and sometimes they want their kitty. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7683 "2011-02-14T18:06:14Z")
Just to be clear, since Q’s current toon Clawdie is a druid and his question mentioned changing to a cat, druids cannot tame animals. Only hunters can do that. Q, if your druid wants some company while doing things, you can buy a ‘non-combat pet’ or ‘companion’ from a vendor or from the AH. Each race has a low level non combat pet that is generally associated with it and which should be purchasable for a few silver in their home city (it’s been a while since I checked, so I could be wrong). Non-combat pets are different from hunter pets (the ones that you tame) in that the first group are there just to look pretty, while the second group actually fight by your side per Tom Scud’s description. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7684 "2011-02-14T18:22:10Z")
To clarify, **Clawdie** isn’t my only toon. I also have 2 Night Elf hunters, both of whom have the “tame” ability. Sorry! Q ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7685 "2011-02-14T18:50:13Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > My continuing quest for Mysterious Camel Figurines has been fruitless. However, I am making a small fortune off of the Mining I do while I endlessly fly over Uldum, so it’s not all that bad. > > Wishing there were more drakes available to we mere mortals who do not raid. There’s the three you can get via Wrath dungeons (Stratholme, Oculus gift bag, Skadi), the one from the ‘I did all the holiday quests!’ meta achievement and the one in the Oracle egg. > > Edit: Oh, and the ones you can buy in Shattrath if you rep grind with blah blah blah I forget. The rep grind one is the Netherwing–and actually once you get Exalted there are about six different netherdrakes you can buy. There are some non-raiding drakes in Cata too, as long as you run heroics–both Vortex Pinnacle and Stonecore have dragon bosses that have a small chance of dropping drakes. And as someone else mentioned, you can also get the Tol Barad drake for 200 TB tokens. Oh, and don’t forget the Time-Lost Protodrake, a rare that flies around Storm Peaks (and who should be a lot easier to find now that everybody and his dog isn’t farming him), and the red drake you can get from Wrath heroic achievements (most of which should be pretty easy at level 85). There’s also an achievement drake for Cata heroic achievements, but that is still relatively hard to get unless you’re geared and have a geared group to run with. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7686 "2011-02-14T22:38:36Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > The rep grind one is the Netherwing–and actually once you get Exalted there are about six different netherdrakes you can buy. > > There are some non-raiding drakes in Cata too, as long as you run heroics–both Vortex Pinnacle and Stonecore have dragon bosses that have a small chance of dropping drakes. And as someone else mentioned, you can also get the Tol Barad drake for 200 TB tokens. > > Oh, and don’t forget the Time-Lost Protodrake, a rare that flies around Storm Peaks (and who should be a lot easier to find now that everybody and his dog isn’t farming him), and the red drake you can get from Wrath heroic achievements (most of which should be pretty easy at level 85). There’s also an achievement drake for Cata heroic achievements, but that is still relatively hard to get unless you’re geared and have a geared group to run with. And then, for the marginally insane, there’s the seasonal achievement meta-achievement, [What a Long, Strange Trip Its’ Been](http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=2145/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been). Nice purple (!) proto-drake and a free upgrade to Master Riding (310% flight) if you already don’t have it. It take a special kind of insanity to pursue all the necessary seasonal event achievements to pull that off. On many levels, the raiding mounts are easier. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7687 "2011-02-14T23:01:42Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > And then, for the marginally insane, there’s the seasonal achievement meta-achievement, [What a Long, Strange Trip Its’ Been](http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=2145/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been). Nice purple (!) proto-drake and a free upgrade to Master Riding (310% flight) if you already don’t have it. > > It take a special kind of insanity to pursue all the necessary seasonal event achievements to pull that off. On many levels, the raiding mounts are easier. That’s the one I meant when I said ‘the one from the ‘I did all the holiday quests!’ meta’. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7688 "2011-02-15T03:42:33Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > The rep grind one is the Netherwing–and actually once you get Exalted there are about six different netherdrakes you can buy. > > There are some non-raiding drakes in Cata too, as long as you run heroics–both Vortex Pinnacle and Stonecore have dragon bosses that have a small chance of dropping drakes. And as someone else mentioned, you can also get the Tol Barad drake for 200 TB tokens. > > Oh, and don’t forget the Time-Lost Protodrake, a rare that flies around Storm Peaks (and who should be a lot easier to find now that everybody and his dog isn’t farming him), and the red drake you can get from Wrath heroic achievements (most of which should be pretty easy at level 85). There’s also an achievement drake for Cata heroic achievements, but that is still relatively hard to get unless you’re geared and have a geared group to run with. Ah, the Time-Lost Protodrake. I wish. I’m ready to give up on rare spawns - I don’t have the opportunity to camp for 72 hours straight. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7689 "2011-02-15T05:36:12Z")
Battle for Gilneas: 1. Picked up the quest 2. Talked to guy at the bridge 3. Made sure to wait on Liam to do his Braveheart speech 4. Changed **Clawdie** to cat mode and rushed in with everyone else But when I got in, I tried to follow the yellow arrow and never could get to the end. What am I doing wrong, y’all? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7690 "2011-02-15T06:29:11Z")
I had a nice bit of cross-faction cooperation this evening! My level 63 nelf priest accepted the quest in Honor Hold to go kill Arazzius the Cruel, that level 63 elite demon over at the Pools of Aggonar. I figured, what the heck, the reward was a major trinket upgrade so I’d give it a shot. But I didn’t expect to succeed. So I flew over there, and found a level 63 goblin DK standing there getting ready to try to solo the demon. She ran in there and attacked, and I waited to make sure she had it tagged, then I went ahead and loaded the demon up with DoTs and Mind Flayed it, then drew aggro from one of the adds. I fried the add and then finished helping kill the demon. And then the nice li’l goblin stuck around and helped _me_ kill it again when it respawned. Sadly, the goblin somehow died in the process this time, and being of the opposite faction there was nothing I could do about that. I waited for her to run back from the GY and rez and then emoted a /thanks at her, but I don’t know if she saw anything more than “Syanalle makes some strange gestures.” Anyway, I thought it was nice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7691 "2011-02-15T10:41:17Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Battle for Gilneas: > > 1. Picked up the quest > > 2. Talked to guy at the bridge > > 3. Made sure to wait on Liam to do his Braveheart speech > > 4. Changed **Clawdie** to cat mode and rushed in with everyone else > > But when I got in, I tried to follow the yellow arrow and never could get to the end. What am I doing wrong, y’all? > > Thanks > > Q Did you speak to [Krennan Aranas?](http://www.wowhead.com/npc=38553) by the bridge? He starts it all off for you. My first Cataclysm dungeon successfully tanked in a PuG (except for one guildy, a fire mage) no less, chose the Lost City of Tol’vir for the tanking boots that drop as a quest reward. I hadn’t realised you now get Justice Points from normals for killing the bosses, nice. We’ll finish up doing all the normal dungeons this week then hit the heroics what order would people here recommend? Not too worried about drops at this point but I’d like to ease into the heroic experience, I know some are less forgiving than others. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7692 "2011-02-15T12:24:33Z")
Yes, **martu**. That’s the guy at the bridge. Once you pick up the quest from Lorna, then you talk to him, then you stand next to Liam, and then you rush in. My problem is getting to my goal once I am inside. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7693 "2011-02-15T13:36:49Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Yes, **martu**. That’s the guy at the bridge. Once you pick up the quest from Lorna, then you talk to him, then you stand next to Liam, and then you rush in. My problem is getting to my goal once I am inside. > > Thanks > > Q I’m not sure then sorry, if you check the comments at wowhead for this quest there are reports of it being buggy though I’ve done it twice now with no issues. Anyone else had this issue here? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7694 "2011-02-15T13:45:37Z")
OK I (a Fury warrior) am veeeery nealry soft capped for hit. I am a loooong way though from the hard cap (I dual wield). All my gem slots are yellow, bbut on the AH I can only see blue gems to get +Hit. Should I give up on the socket bonuses and throw the blue gems in, or if I can find a JC are there yellow gems rigid cuts for +Hit? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7695 "2011-02-15T14:42:48Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > OK I (a Fury warrior) am veeeery nealry soft capped for hit. I am a loooong way though from the hard cap (I dual wield). All my gem slots are yellow, bbut on the AH I can only see blue gems to get +Hit. Should I give up on the socket bonuses and throw the blue gems in, or if I can find a JC are there yellow gems rigid cuts for +Hit? +hit gems are always blue; however, you can pick up green gems that have half of the +hit of a blue gem and half of the + (whatever) of a yellow gem. My own experience with a different build is that the slot bonus is usually worth using a green gem for. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7696 "2011-02-15T14:47:18Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Did you speak to [Krennan Aranas?](http://www.wowhead.com/npc=38553) by the bridge? He starts it all off for you. > My first Cataclysm dungeon successfully tanked in a PuG (except for one guildy, a fire mage) no less, chose the Lost City of Tol’vir for the tanking boots that drop as a quest reward. I hadn’t realised you now get Justice Points from normals for killing the bosses, nice. > > We’ll finish up doing all the normal dungeons this week then hit the heroics what order would people here recommend? Not too worried about drops at this point but I’d like to ease into the heroic experience, I know some are less forgiving than others. Vortex Pinnacle is about the easiest, though the fight with the second boss can take forever if you lose a DPS or two, and the trash before the third boss can be tricky. Shadowfang Keep is not too bad if you skip Springvale (the third boss), which you can. Throne of Tides is probably the third-easiest. At the other end of the spectrum, Stonecore and BRC are probably the toughest, followed by Grim Batol. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7697 "2011-02-15T14:50:12Z")
> [@martu](#): > > We’ll finish up doing all the normal dungeons this week then hit the heroics what order would people here recommend? Not too worried about drops at this point but I’d like to ease into the heroic experience, I know some are less forgiving than others. I’ve had good luck with PUGs in heroic Tol’Vir and Throne of Tides, especially. Also Vortex Pinnacle. SFK is not too bad. The ones that my pugs have struggled with are heroic Stonecore, Deadmines and especially Grim Batol. YMMV. I had a good night last night - made my first foray into BRD with my 49 shammy, then took my holy priest into regular Tol’Vir with FlightlessBird’s druid tank. Finally a couple of us BDL guildmates and Shin Kell’s warrior got through heroic Tol’Vir. We only had two boss wipes, I think, but to keep running back because we’d pull trash that we had skipped the first time through. Not too bad a run and I picked up some dps pants for my ret offspec. I can definitely notice the difference in pally healing since the patch - I completely went OOM on the last two bosses and we would have wiped on a lesser geared tank. I’m gonna have to stock up on elixers for heroic running until I get a few more upgrades, I think. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7698 "2011-02-15T15:17:36Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > +hit gems are always blue; however, you can pick up green gems that have half of the +hit of a blue gem and half of the + (whatever) of a yellow gem. My own experience with a different build is that the slot bonus is usually worth using a green gem for. Thanks Tom, I will check out the green gems tonight. Are there any enchants for +Hit that are worth me looking at? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7699 "2011-02-15T15:25:43Z")
Also, should I consider reforging some gear to swap expertise/mastery for +hit (if this is even possible) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7700 "2011-02-15T15:28:12Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Also, should I consider reforging some gear to swap expertise/mastery for +hit (if this is even possible) It is indeed possible. You can reforge any secondary stat to any other. Also spirit, but no other primary stats. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7701 "2011-02-15T16:08:53Z")
Battle for Gilneas City Well, basically I just need to know if I’m supposed to go after anyone specific while I’m in the city with all the combatants, or just run around and engage the enemy myself till the whole thing’s over. That doesn’t seem to work too well for me because I get mobbed and killed. I am also careful to wait and go in at the START of the battle rather than while it’s in progress. I know I’m supposed to use that saber which then makes that emerald green circle, but what else do I do with that other than spur on the combatants. Before when I had the green circle and killed Worgen (early in the quest series) there was a control panel. There isn’t one in this quest. There is a yellow arrow which appears on the minimap, but if I’m supposed to follow that arrow, I can’t. There isn’t a yellow question mark to show the quest’s end, either. Does that help anyone? If not, and you’ve done the quest yourself, maybe you can just tell me what you did once you entered the city with all the combatants, keeping in mind that I’m going in as a cat. Thanks Q [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=384) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=386)