# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 386
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7702 "2011-02-15T16:16:26Z")
I am struggling to remember any specifics. I think you just keep using the sabre to gee up the troops. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7703 "2011-02-15T16:30:14Z")
Quasi, just follow the crowd of troops – they will show you where to go. It’s a fairly winding route, but eventually you end up at a big square and then a scene plays out. Use the sabre to motivate the troops whenever it’s available for you to use, but don’t engage the enemies yourself as they’re too powerful for you. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7704 "2011-02-15T16:36:42Z")
Q, when I did that quest, I stayed close to the front with the leaders and kept spamming that item they give you. I didn’t try to do much damage until we got to the final boss (Sylvanas). I don’t remember all the details of the fight, but just try to keep up with the group and follow them. Sorry I don’t remember more details. If you haven’t done this alread, you should look up the quest on [wowhead.com](http://wowhead.com) and read the comments - there will usually be helpful advice there. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7705 "2011-02-15T16:44:21Z")
**Skammie** Yeah, I looked it up, but really couldn’t get it to make any sense, so that’s why I asked here. I have gotten into the habit of doing that first (wowhead, thotbot, et.al.) and then only ask here if I need to. Okay, I understand now and we’ll try that this evening. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7706 "2011-02-15T16:47:22Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I had a nice bit of cross-faction cooperation this evening! > > My level 63 nelf priest accepted the quest in Honor Hold to go kill Arazzius the Cruel, that level 63 elite demon over at the Pools of Aggonar. I figured, what the heck, the reward was a major trinket upgrade so I’d give it a shot. But I didn’t expect to succeed. > > So I flew over there, and found a level 63 goblin DK standing there getting ready to try to solo the demon. She ran in there and attacked, and I waited to make sure she had it tagged, then I went ahead and loaded the demon up with DoTs and Mind Flayed it, then drew aggro from one of the adds. I fried the add and then finished helping kill the demon. > > And then the nice li’l goblin stuck around and helped _me_ kill it again when it respawned. Sadly, the goblin somehow died in the process this time, and being of the opposite faction there was nothing I could do about that. I waited for her to run back from the GY and rez and then emoted a /thanks at her, but I don’t know if she saw anything more than “Syanalle makes some strange gestures.” > > Anyway, I thought it was nice 🙂 I’ve had that happen a few times myself, and love it. It’s always nice when people help out, and I try to make sure anyone solo that’s around when I’m in the area gets some help if it’s a tough mob. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7707 "2011-02-15T16:51:51Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I had a nice bit of cross-faction cooperation this evening! > > My level 63 nelf priest accepted the quest in Honor Hold to go kill Arazzius the Cruel, that level 63 elite demon over at the Pools of Aggonar. I figured, what the heck, the reward was a major trinket upgrade so I’d give it a shot. But I didn’t expect to succeed. > > So I flew over there, and found a level 63 goblin DK standing there getting ready to try to solo the demon. She ran in there and attacked, and I waited to make sure she had it tagged, then I went ahead and loaded the demon up with DoTs and Mind Flayed it, then drew aggro from one of the adds. I fried the add and then finished helping kill the demon. > > And then the nice li’l goblin stuck around and helped _me_ kill it again when it respawned. Sadly, the goblin somehow died in the process this time, and being of the opposite faction there was nothing I could do about that. I waited for her to run back from the GY and rez and then emoted a /thanks at her, but I don’t know if she saw anything more than “Syanalle makes some strange gestures.” > > Anyway, I thought it was nice 🙂 Generally, a /salute or /bow will be seen as such by the other faction, so that’s what I usually use when I need to thank or acknowledge one of them. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7708 "2011-02-15T17:26:11Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Generally, a /salute or /bow will be seen as such by the other faction, so that’s what I usually use when I need to thank or acknowledge one of them. Whenever I see something funny or awesome I /salute or /cheer, but I always forget to target the person doing it, so I’m standing around a group of people that are impromptu dancing in the middle of Dal and I /cheer Marcia Chase. :o Happens way too often. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7709 "2011-02-15T18:21:05Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Battle for Gilneas City > > Well, basically I just need to know if I’m supposed to go after anyone specific while I’m in the city with all the combatants, or just run around and engage the enemy myself till the whole thing’s over. That doesn’t seem to work too well for me because I get mobbed and killed. Like somebody else said, just stick close to Liam. One thing I’ve been doing when I need to follow or escort an NPC is click on that NPC to target them, then right-click on their portrait and select “Raid Target Icon -\>” and put a star over their head. That way I can always see where they are even when I have something else targeted. > [@](#): > > I know I’m supposed to use that saber which then makes that emerald green circle, but what else do I do with that other than spur on the combatants. > > Before when I had the green circle and killed Worgen (early in the quest series) there was a control panel. There isn’t one in this quest. You only get a control panel if you’re on a “vehicle”. In this case, you’re using an item that you carry. > [@kushiel](#): > > Whenever I see something funny or awesome I /salute or /cheer, but I always forget to target the person doing it, so I’m standing around a group of people that are impromptu dancing in the middle of Dal and I /cheer Marcia Chase. :o Happens way too often. In a similar vein, I really really wish they’d make friendly NPCs (questgivers, trainers, vendors) invalid targets for spells. One of the most aggravating things, at least before they allowed flying mounts in Stormwind, was my mage casting Slow Fall and leaping off the Mage Tower, only to discover that she actually cast the spell on the trainer she’d just spoken to and forgotten to delselect :smack: I’m having a bit of fun with my mage and my priest, dismounting high over Stormwind and then casting Slow Fall or Levitate. Here’s my priest: [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/syanalle\_levitate.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/syanalle_levitate.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7710 "2011-02-15T18:50:41Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Whenever I see something funny or awesome I /salute or /cheer, but I always forget to target the person doing it, so I’m standing around a group of people that are impromptu dancing in the middle of Dal and I /cheer Marcia Chase. :o Happens way too often. I have the same issue in dungeons. I /ready to tell the tank that I’m ready, but it’s after I’ve selected the mob. So I usually get, “You tell General Umbriss that you are ready.” :smack: Of all things, that should aggro him? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7711 "2011-02-15T20:18:31Z")
Got not one but 2 great PUGs, over the course of which I hit exalted with Hyjal for the ferocious wolf belt and made it to 2200 justice points for the helm. ilevel 334. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7712 "2011-02-15T21:02:20Z")
Question for the other alchemists out there: are there really _no_ level 60 elixirs? My main is a max-level alchemist, and I had her whip up a big batch of Elixirs of Draeneic Wisdom for my priest, who was level 50 at the time, the level required to use that elixir. Now that my priest is level 63 and has just about used up all those elixirs, I thought I’d make her a batch of whatever elixir would be appropriate for her at that level. And that’s when I opened my Alchemy window and discovered that the “requires level 50” elixirs are followed immediately by “requires level 70” elixirs. Seriously? Nothing at all for level 60-ish toons? I’ve learned every recipe the trainer has to offer… ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7713 "2011-02-15T21:34:08Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Question for the other alchemists out there: are there really _no_ level 60 elixirs? lmwhtfy 🙂 Here are the “Requires Level 60-69” elixirs. Not very many. Most appear to be BC-era random zone drops. Good luck farming (or farming the AH). > **[Elixirs](https://www.wowhead.com/items/consumables/elixirs/min-req-level:60/max-req-level:69)** > > A complete searchable and filterable list of Elixirs in World of Warcraft: The War Within. Always up to date with the latest patch (11.2.0). ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7714 "2011-02-15T21:34:10Z")
Okay, stupid hurts, don’t it? I completed the quest, but then couldn’t find Lorna. (I know she was in the inn. Now.:)) So when I couldn’t find her (and hadn’t read all the instructions) I went back to the livery stable, thinking I’d end the quest there. No. So I did the whole quest again. Didn’t abandon it and do it over. Just followed everyone inn, thinking I’d follow them all around and find the inn, etc. No. First of all, I no longer had the saber, so it took them a lot longer to kill the bosses, and secondly, Lorna doens’t appear till the whole shebang is over so I had to wait till Liam died and then continue. Slowing the invevitable is next. Thanks everyone. Q ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7715 "2011-02-15T21:51:18Z")
The good news, Quasi, is that you’re getting very close to the end of the Gilneas quests. A few more and you’ll find yourself sailing away on a Night Elf boat. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7716 "2011-02-15T22:15:50Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > lmwhtfy 🙂 > > Here are the “Requires Level 60-69” elixirs. Not very many. Most appear to be BC-era random zone drops. Good luck farming (or farming the AH). > > [Elixirs - World of Warcraft](http://www.wowhead.com/items=0.2?filter=minrl=60;maxrl=69) Shows what I get for using a guide to power-level the profession. It skipped right over those! Looks like [Elixir of Major Shadow Power](http://www.wowhead.com/item=22835) is the only one particularly useful for my shadow priest… Thanks 🙂 ETA: And :smack: it requires being Revered with Lower City to purchase :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7717 "2011-02-15T22:35:27Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > Why? There aren’t that many of them that you can’t replace by going back to the tabard vendor if you simply must have them for something, right? Because I’m a stubborn bitch, that’s why! 😃 > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Honestly though? Having been used to Alliance for almost three years, I feel a bit guilty with **Tanus** being Horde. You and me both! At least your other Alliance characters are still Alliance–it still feels wrong every time I log onto Sleutel and she’s a Blood Elf in Orgrimmar instead of a Night Elf in Stormwind. ☹ > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Woo I made ilevel 329 so can queue for heroics. Course, I’m not going to just yet. I dont even have any Justice point gear yet and im only putting out 5.9K DPS. IMO, 5.9k is fine for Heroics. > [@kushiel](#): > > My continuing quest for Mysterious Camel Figurines has been fruitless. Ack! I keep forgetting about that. > [@](#): > > Wishing there were more drakes available to we mere mortals who do not raid. There’s the three you can get via Wrath dungeons (Stratholme, Oculus gift bag, Skadi), the one from the ‘I did all the holiday quests!’ meta achievement and the one in the Oracle egg. Let’s see. Here are all the dragons I can remember from non-raid PvE content: [spoiler]**TBC (6)** 1-6.) Netherdrakes from Netherwing rep **Wrath (9)** 7.) Bronze drake from Strat 8.) Blue drake from Oc (formerly 10-man Maly) 9.) Blue protodrake from Skadi 10.) Red drake from Wyrmrest rep 11.) Bronze protodrake from Time-Lost Proto (rarespawn) 12.) Green protodrake from Oracles rep item 13.) Red protodrake from Heroic meta 14.) Violet protodrake from holiday meta 15.) Albino drake from 50 mount achievement **Cata (5)** 16.) Stonecore drop 17.) Vortex Pinnacle drop 18.) Alchemy-crafted BOE 19.) Heroic meta 20.) Tol Barad rep reward[/spoiler] And here are the ones from raids: [spoiler]**TBC (0)** None **Wrath (9)** 1.) 10-man Naxx meta 2.) 25-man Naxx meta 3.) 10-man Sarth+3D 4.) 25-man Sarth+3D 5.) 25-man Maly drop (not including 10-man drop because it was moved to Oc) 6.) 10-man Ulduar meta 7.) 25-man Ulduar meta 8.) 10-man ICC meta 9.) 25-man ICC meta **Cata (1)** 10.) T11 raid meta[/spoiler] So, actually, there are currently twice as many PvE drakes that \*don’t \*come from raiding. And that’s not counting the Arena drakes. Also, while the raiding meta drakes might still be hard (or at least inconvenient) to PUG, Sarth+3D is a faceroll zerg now (and has been since well before the end of Wrath). You could easily start doing that every week (although you’re now limited to either the 10 or 25 each lockout). > [@Infovore](#): > > There are some non-raiding drakes in Cata too, as long as you run heroics–both Vortex Pinnacle and Stonecore have dragon bosses that have a small chance of dropping drakes. Unless they changed it, those drakes also drop in normal. > [@gnoitall](#): > > It take a special kind of insanity to pursue all the necessary seasonal event achievements to pull that off. On many levels, the raiding mounts are easier. Actually, I thought the Violet was much easier than any of my raiding drakes. Mainly because it only depended on _me_. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > OK I (a Fury warrior) am veeeery nealry soft capped for hit. I am a loooong way though from the hard cap (I dual wield). All my gem slots are yellow, bbut on the AH I can only see blue gems to get +Hit. Should I give up on the socket bonuses and throw the blue gems in, or if I can find a JC are there yellow gems rigid cuts for +Hit? Hit is absolutely your best stat, hands down, until you get to 8%. They changed the color of Hit gems to blue a while ago; the change applied to every Hit gem in the game. You will never find any gems with the same stats that are different colors. Like someone suggested, use combo gems if you have to, if there’s a really good socket bonus; but don’t gem for the bonus if it means you’ll be under 8% Hit, because whatever the socket is giving you will be necessarily inferior. If you want to pick up a yellow gem slot bonus, your best bet is going to be a gem with the prefix “Piercing,” which will give you Hit and Crit. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Also, should I consider reforging some gear to swap expertise/mastery for +hit (if this is even possible) Unless you’re over 26 Expertise, don’t pull stats away from it to put into Hit. If you are over 26 Expertise, you should be reforging all of the extra off your gear anyway. > [@Infovore](#): > > You can reforge any secondary stat to any other. Except Resilience. > [@jayjay](#): > > Generally, a /salute or /bow will be seen as such by the other faction Any preset emote will be seen by the other faction. You only get the “strange gestures” message when you make a custom emote. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Slowing the invevitable is next. Woo! Glad you figured it out. I’ll be raiding tonight, but if you get stuck again, drop me an email, and I’ll try to answer in between pulls. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7718 "2011-02-16T01:39:16Z")
I’m not usually one to mix my politics with my gaming, but I just saw a Loremaster Palin on my server and giggled. Not the title I would have associated! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7719 "2011-02-16T05:07:08Z")
All my action bars disappeared after the Liam’s tomb quest. Anyone know how to get them back? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7720 "2011-02-16T05:13:05Z")
never mind. log out/log in slaphead Q ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7721 "2011-02-16T07:56:50Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You’re having a melee work on the parasites? That strikes me as odd. IME, you want the melee to stay the hell away from the adds and stick to the boss, because if they pull aggro they’ll just get infected. Too, depending on how many melee DPS you have, they may also need to stick next to Magmaw to jump up and chains him. > > We have one person out kiting the parasites and serving as a pillar target. Everybody else, including the ranged DPS, stacks up on Magmaw’s ass. When the parasites spawn, all of the ranged DPS switches to the adds and burns them down before going back to the boss. We usually only have two melee, so we stay on the boss the whole time and are responsible for the chains. He wasn’t doing it as melee, what he did was use DnD and throw stuff at them. We did not have any AoErs available. So basically we were doing what you describe, but with extremely-limited resources. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=385) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=387)