# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 389
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7762 "2011-02-17T17:14:37Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Try tanking as a Death Knight. Most of the weapons with good tanking secondaries are Bear tank polearms, so you have a buncha mostly useless agility; or else you get a DPS-friendly Strength-based weapon and hope it has hit, expertise, or mastery and not haste or crit. On the other hand, you also get the far-and-away BIS tanking enchant for your weapon through Runeforging. > [@kushiel](#): > > But argh, people are jerkfaces. Your level of expectation has to be lower in Normals. You’re going to get people who have only done the dungeon once or twice. You’re going to get people still learning things. If you’re confused by not knowing the fight mechanics, I have [a two-part guide to every regular Cata dungeon (with Heroic notes for most bosses) over at the BDL thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13271716#post13271716). When I was first running these dungeons, I had the cheatsheet I borrowed most of the information from open in a browser tab constantly, so all I had to do was tab over and skim through the relevant summary for each boss. > [@Skammer](#): > > Is there any advantage to riding the camels in that battle, or is it just cool? I’ve been in groups that have done it both ways. No advantage, and some disadvantages (e.g., I can’t use Charge or Heroic Leap when I’m on a camel). But you do get an achievement for doing it that way on Heroic. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7763 "2011-02-17T17:14:50Z")
My warrior is finally in Northrend. 😃 No more clown suit! No more clown suit! (I still haven’t replaced the gold and white moonboots though. \>:| ) I have to say, the Alliance-side story in BT is way better than the Horde story. Horde just run round killing Nerubian on top of Nerubian and get to say hi to Saurfang, while Alliance get to interact with Farshire and find out more about Thassarian. At the end of the Farshire chain, I really felt for the farmers and mentally saluted them as I flew off. I didn’t feel the same way about any of the Horde-side NPCs I came across until I got to the taunka in Dragonblight. Horde? Nerubians. Nerubians. 😛 I have no idea if HF is the other way around. I may have to find out next toon I get through Northrend. Kushiel, I know what you mean. H TOT run, I stared at the dps which was kinda… low… for a H run. But I figured I’d give it a couple more tries. It was far from being a textbook run, but by god, it was more entertaining. (hell, it quit being textbook when the mage kited Nazjar the last 30% after the tank and plate went down, or when the lock was the last man standing on Neptulon and selfhealed himself long enough to down him) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7764 "2011-02-17T17:26:45Z")
Oh! I almost forgot. Who was it that was asking about \*\*Fury Warrior stats \*\*the other day? **One and Only** , maybe? With 4.0.6, some people are now advocating for a low-hit, high-crit-and-mastery build. The high-hit build tends to still be best for fights where you’re just standing still and hammering away while taking zero incoming damage, but the crit/mastery priority seems to be better for fights where you’re moving and taking damage (thus getting more rage), which is most of the fights in Cata. Mastery is also much more viable than it used to be. Accordingly, your stat priority for Titan’s Grip is probably now: (Hit to 8% = Expertise to 26) \> Strength \> Crit \> Mastery \> Hit to 27% \> Haste I think it’s different for Single-Minded Fury, and SMF definitely has a slightly different rotation. So let me know if you change that up. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7765 "2011-02-17T19:08:31Z")
[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiebuddy.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiebuddy.jpg) Well, he’s _everyone’s_ new buddy, but **Wolkie** has seniority, so he got him first. He dances and shits flowers. Don’t know what else yet. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7766 "2011-02-17T20:05:07Z")
Wheee! What’s his name? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7767 "2011-02-17T20:22:06Z")
**Wizzer** sounds good to me. 🙂 Q Oh, and I have **Clawdie** doing Eastvale Logging Camp. You know what? I think those quest chains are just new to _y’all_. I’ve already done a bunch of those with my alts, getting them up to mount level. Q ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7768 "2011-02-17T20:24:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh! I almost forgot. Who was it that was asking about \*\*Fury Warrior stats \*\*the other day? **One and Only** , maybe? With 4.0.6, some people are now advocating for a low-hit, high-crit-and-mastery build. The high-hit build tends to still be best for fights where you’re just standing still and hammering away while taking zero incoming damage, but the crit/mastery priority seems to be better for fights where you’re moving and taking damage (thus getting more rage), which is most of the fights in Cata. Mastery is also much more viable than it used to be. > > Accordingly, your stat priority for Titan’s Grip is probably now: > > (Hit to 8% = Expertise to 26) \> Strength \> Crit \> Mastery \> Hit to 27% \> Haste > > I think it’s different for Single-Minded Fury, and SMF definitely has a slightly different rotation. So let me know if you change that up. Heh just finished my first reforges to get hit up - at the expense of mastery! > **[World of Warcraft](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/)** > > Join thousands of mighty heroes in Azeroth, a world of magic and limitless adventure. I will retune tomorrow when I read your post again. Just finished my 1st Heroic - Tol’vir - coped OK, was a good group. I was bottom DPS, but in the same ball park, put out 6.8k DPS according to recount. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7769 "2011-02-17T20:32:30Z")
**Clawdie** also now has a portal to Moonglade. That means she can teleport _herself_ there, right? How about someone else - or is that ourely a Mage thing? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7770 "2011-02-17T20:42:27Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Clawdie** also now has a portal to Moonglade. That means she can teleport _herself_ there, right? How about someone else - or is that ourely a Mage thing? > > Thanks > > Q It’s just you. The Moonglade portal used to be important, because there used to be at least two quests there (to get your bear form and you aquatic form), but since they removed class quests and simply put those on the trainer menu, it’s not that big a deal anymore. It IS very convenient during the Lunar Festival, but that’s only once a year. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7771 "2011-02-17T20:44:37Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s just you. The Moonglade portal used to be important, because there used to be at least two quests there (to get your bear form and you aquatic form), but since they removed class quests and simply put those on the trainer menu, it’s not that big a deal anymore. It IS very convenient during the Lunar Festival, but that’s only once a year. There’s still at least one Druid class quest there (level 20-ish), and it’s also handy in that there still (as far as I know) aren’t Druid trainers in every major city. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7772 "2011-02-17T20:49:29Z")
Might be on later tonight after SDMB Poker. Then it’s Vegas Friday morning to Sunday morning. _Should_ be back on Sunday night. If you need anything JC or BS, mail them very soon or wait till Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7773 "2011-02-17T22:14:23Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Oh, and I have **Clawdie** doing Eastvale Logging Camp. You know what? I think those quest chains are just new to _y’all_. I’ve already done a bunch of those with my alts, getting them up to mount level. You’re in Elwynn Forest, **Quasi**. That didn’t change much at all. The zone we were talking about is Westfall, which is southwest of there. FYI, Elwynn is probably much too low-level for Clawdie. It’s designed for characters that are in about the 5-10 level range. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Heh just finished my first reforges to get hit up - at the expense of mastery! :smack: Figures. I just had to reforget all of my Fury gear last night, so I know how you feel. FWIW, the Elitist Jerks FAQ thread in the Warrior forum tends to have a pretty up-to-date summary of the important stuff for all three classes, and it’s written in such a way to be easily understandable by people who aren’t theorycrafters. You might want to check it out and bookmark it. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > There’s still at least one Druid class quest there (level 20-ish), and it’s also handy in that there still (as far as I know) aren’t Druid trainers in every major city. IME it’s mostly just a convenient way to train these days, outside of the occasional class quest (which are optional, though they generally give you a very nice piece of equipment if you do them at-level). I can ding, get to a point in my questing where I was planning to hearth, and then instead go to Moonglade first, train up, \*then \*hearth back and turn in quests. Beats having to fly back to a capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7774 "2011-02-17T22:47:48Z")
Oh. Well, then that’s _different_, ain’t it? (puts on goofy look a’ la “Mater”: [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/1011-Tow-Mater.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/1011-Tow-Mater.jpg) “Uh-Hioh!, Uh-Hioh, Uh-Hioh” (down-south goofy laugh) My quests in Westfall have started with that guy’s who is investigating the deaths along the roadway and you have to get like 4 clues and then kill Riverpaws and Murlocs. Is that the way y’all’s start and also what if I teleport **Clawdie** to Moonglade, is it easy to get her back? She doesn’t have a lot of fp’s yet in the Eastern K’s. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7775 "2011-02-17T23:04:46Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Is there any advantage to riding the camels in that battle, or is it just cool? I’ve been in groups that have done it both ways. They allow you to cast while moving. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7776 "2011-02-18T00:11:03Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Oh. > > Well, then that’s _different_, ain’t it? (puts on goofy look a’ la “Mater”: > > [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/1011-Tow-Mater.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/1011-Tow-Mater.jpg) > > “Uh-Hioh!, Uh-Hioh, Uh-Hioh” (down-south goofy laugh) > > My quests in Westfall have started with that guy’s who is investigating the deaths along the roadway and you have to get like 4 clues and then kill Riverpaws and Murlocs. Is that the way y’all’s start and also what if I teleport **Clawdie** to Moonglade, is it easy to get her back? She doesn’t have a lot of fp’s yet in the Eastern K’s. > > Thanks > > Q I’d wait until you get to the flight point at Sentinel Hill (it moved, btw…it’s up the hill next to the tower). You should go through the questline with the CSI:Stormwind folks…once you do the initial quests, they’ll send you to the Furlbrow farm to do some more, then send you to Saldean’s farm. Mrs. Saldean will send you to Sentinel Hill, then. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7777 "2011-02-18T00:41:16Z")
So, I’m in Red Ridge now. Finish up there and then head to Sentinel Hill? Or go now? BTW, here’s a pic of **Clawdie** in her human form: [![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/clawhumie.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/clawhumie.jpg) Can I have her hair re-done as a human in a barber shop and how will that affect her hair as a Wookie? Funny, but I can’t make her appear human when I log out - she goes back to her Worgen form. Also, you guys who have toons that are girls: do you get “hit on” a lot? I had **Clawdie** in the AH, and someone wanted to group with me. I kept declining and he kept sending back “?” and waved at me. So she waved back (hussie) and then it began: he wanted me to follow him, he wanted me in his guild, he wanted to know could I fly here and there, and when I told him I just wasn’t any good at all of this, sorry, he goes, “Oh, _please_, don’t leave!” (by that time, I was running to the SW flighmaster to get the hell out of there before I thought of the ignore button - see how I can really get into this RP thang? ;)) Jesus, we’re just not that kind of girl!🙂 Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7778 "2011-02-18T00:45:32Z")
Also, she’s got one of those funky lip things going on that I sure would like to change… ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7779 "2011-02-18T03:17:34Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiebuddy.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiebuddy.jpg) > > Well, he’s _everyone’s_ new buddy, but **Wolkie** has seniority, so he got him first. > > He dances and shits flowers. Don’t know what else yet. > > Thanks > > Q I laughed out loud, thanks. :p:p ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7780 "2011-02-18T04:44:32Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > **Skammer** , I would REALLY suggest you do the Westfall and Redridge quests again, even if you do them on a higher-level toon. Like the Silverpine quests for Horde, the zones have been almost completely revamped, and the Westfall quests, in particular, build up a far more interesting story than the old Westfall. Yeah, they’re pure awesome! Well, Westfall is. I haven’t gotten too far into the Redridge quests yet on my lowbie human rogue. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Anybody who’s just randomly inviting strangers to their guild is going to have approximately zero standards. IMO, you’ll probably already be a cut above some of the members by being an adult who likes helping out when he can and isn’t just there to steal as much as he’s able from the guild bank. 😃 My level 20-something tauren paladin was galumphing around Orgrimmar when he got a whisper from somebody who “noticed you don’t have a guild” and proceeded to pitch a “very casual guild for people who want the benefits of being in a guild without any expectations or obligations”. So I whispered back, “Sure! Sign me up!” And then … nothing. No actual guild invite was forthcoming, and they said nothing more, so I shrugged and went back to galumphing. My orc warlock on the same server is in a guild, so maybe I’ll just ask somebody there to invite my tauren. Or maybe he’ll just remain guildless. I’m actually not a big fan of joining guilds with my toons that I don’t play that often. > [@lizardling](#): > > Horde? Nerubians. Nerubians. 😛 I have no idea if HF is the other way around. I may have to find out next toon I get through Northrend. HF is vrykul, vrykul, and more vrykul. For both Horde and Alliance. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/7781 "2011-02-18T04:51:16Z")
Regarding the purchase of companions (see **Wizzer** above): This goes for ANY server, right - not just Aleks, because I have 8 other toons on 3-4 other servers. Also, I think I remember someone mentioning that the more pets/companions you have - what - more achievement points? Thanks Q [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=388) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=390)