# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 403
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8042 "2011-03-03T23:45:52Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > What drugs to they take, **SFG**? Anything which might help the German boy keep from turning completely ape-shit from bat-shit? šŸ™‚ > > Q Ah, youā€™ve reminded me of this charming little story I stumbled across several years ago: [ā€œPooh Goes Apeshitā€, by A.A. Milne](http://www.loser.net/pooh.html) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8043 "2011-03-04T00:06:58Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > The paladin charger is basically a horse. Only accessable to Belves these days, though, I think. Didnā€™t Tauren Paladins get Pally Kodos? > [@Quasimodem](#): > > What drugs to they take, **SFG**? Anything which might help the German boy keep from turning completely ape-shit from bat-shit? Unfortunately, theyā€™re only useful for turning wild, murderous wolf-people into sane wolf-people. And Iā€™m pretty sure they kill most of the people who take them. ā€¦ So, um, maybe? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8044 "2011-03-04T00:24:54Z")
_rage face_ I just ran Sethekk Halls twice to get the Shadow Labyrinth key. I couldnā€™t find the coffer the first time and when I Googled it said coffer problems happen when you kill Ikiss too fast, so the second time I let my pet fight him. Still no coffer. So I went to WoWHead just to find that you donā€™t need the key any longer (since 4.0.1) which is why there is no coffer. Le sigh. Now to find out if itā€™s the same for all the BC dungeons. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8045 "2011-03-04T00:35:12Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > _rage face_ > > I just ran Sethekk Halls twice to get the Shadow Labyrinth key. I couldnā€™t find the coffer the first time and when I Googled it said coffer problems happen when you kill Ikiss too fast, so the second time I let my pet fight him. Still no coffer. So I went to WoWHead just to find that you donā€™t need the key any longer (since 4.0.1) which is why there is no coffer. Le sigh. Now to find out if itā€™s the same for all the BC dungeons. You still have to go through the key quests from the Aā€™dal in Shattrath for access to the Arcatraz, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8046 "2011-03-04T00:38:23Z")
Speaking of whichā€¦where the hell did my keychain go? Was it bartender4 or the patch that did this? ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8047 "2011-03-04T00:43:25Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I suspect that RP servers may be a bit less lore-agnostic, but again, Iā€™ve never heard of anyone getting in trouble for defying the official storyline, just for trolling others by intentionally and flagrantly breaking out of character. (That does happen, though. Seems odd to me, but whatever.) Iā€™ll chime in, since I play on a lolRP server. The treatment of lore in the RP playerbase is just as varied as that of the non-RP playerbase. You have some people who are purists, some people who bend it to fit whatever story they have for their toons, and some people who donā€™t give a ratā€™s ass (if you walk through Silvermoon with a character-profile addon installed, you can read that a startlingly large percentage of the elf players you see are actually DARGONZ in elf form :rolleyes:). I guess my point is that despite what youā€™d expect, even the heavy RPers treat the lore with a huge grain of salt ā€“ necessarily so, since Blizzard plays extremely fast and loose with it as more content gets added. People get frustrated when they have to retcon their own characters so much to fit the official story, especially when it involves scores of pages of writing and years of emotional investment. Ironically, this leads to many RPers having the same LOLore attitude that many non-RPers have. _My toonā€™s story is now canon ā€“ Blizz writers can go suck an egg._ ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8048 "2011-03-04T00:44:25Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Speaking of whichā€¦where the hell did my keychain go? Was it bartender4 or the patch that did this? Bartender hides it by default. You can bring it back in the options. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8049 "2011-03-04T01:05:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You still have to go through the key quests from the Aā€™dal in Shattrath for access to the Arcatraz, I think. Iā€™ll keep that in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8050 "2011-03-04T01:24:11Z")
**Clawdie** , I mean. I spoke with her and told her pretty much what I wrote here, that she needed her own mount, rather than _be_ her own mount, and that I thought it was demeaning and unfair to have to watch her run like that. Since she doesnā€™t speak English, she just mini-growled and snuffled a little and then she rubbed up against my legs, the way a cat does. I think she understood how I feel. While weā€™re on the subject, do _yā€™all_ ever dream anout WoW and your toons, and if so, which toon do you dream of the most? I have noticed that itā€™s whoever Iā€™m working with on any given night. Sometimes itā€™s **Wolkie** and last night, since I was anxious to get her levelled (and later disappointed) it was **Clawdie**. I need to get out more, right? šŸ™‚ I know: Instead of saying Iā€™m bat-shit all the time, we can just say ā€œHe went all Worgie on us.ā€ Which actually does _sound_ like going crazy, doesnā€™t it? šŸ˜‰ Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8051 "2011-03-04T02:54:07Z")
Yā€™all may not have seen it, as it was combined with another subject (Iā€™m bad about that), but sheā€™s trying to get at a keg of beer and these bad guys she has to fight keep knocking her sideways, and she tends to die a lot because I canā€™t get her turned around in time. Is there an ability (which I may not have yet, at level 20) which will cancel that spell? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8052 "2011-03-04T03:39:50Z")
Woot! Choā€™gall down! šŸ˜ƒ And I really, really hate Alā€™akir. Apparently I suck at dodging tornadoes. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8053 "2011-03-04T04:06:11Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Alā€™Akir down! And my god, I really hate the fucking RNG on that fight. Fuck all the [Fake Difficulty](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FakeDifficulty) in this expansion, Blizzard. > > Spent the rest of the night on Choā€™gall again. Weā€™re making progress and getting to ph2, but Iā€™m sure that we could have had this down already if the DPS would step their game up. Right now our strategies all feel to me like, ā€œSleutel, please compensate for the fact that our DPS canā€™t get their shit together.ā€ Iā€™ve been through that before, and if I have to do it again, itā€™s going to burn me out fast. Cheers on Alā€™Akir! That fight can be frustrating, especially in P1 where the Lightning Fields can be brutal if they hit the same group multiple times in a row. Iā€™m sure youā€™ll get Choā€™gall down when your DPS realize theyā€™re responsible for your wipes and no one else. > [@Infovore](#): > > Woot! Choā€™gall down! šŸ˜ƒ > > And I really, really hate Alā€™akir. Apparently I suck at dodging tornadoes. Cheers on Choā€™gall! I do find it funny that you two killed opposite bosses and are having trouble with the one the other killed. Perhaps you two should share notes? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8054 "2011-03-04T04:59:33Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Yā€™all may not have seen it, as it was combined with another subject (Iā€™m bad about that), but sheā€™s trying to get at a keg of beer and these bad guys she has to fight keep knocking her sideways, and she tends to die a lot because I canā€™t get her turned around in time. > > Is there an ability (which I may not have yet, at level 20) which will cancel that spell? > > Thanks > > Q What quest is it, **Quasi**. Iā€™m not recognizing it from what youā€™re describing. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8055 "2011-03-04T05:27:03Z")
Sorry, **jayjay**! Itā€™s the Stolen Keg one in Wetlandsā€¦ And hereā€™s something I just now noticed about **Sugrfoot** ā€¦ She ainā€™t got no boobage! šŸ™‚ [![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/noboobs.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/noboobs.jpg) Huh! I thought ALL WoW females had boobages?šŸ˜‰ Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8056 "2011-03-04T09:31:52Z")
Okay, this is my last post regarding **Clawdie** on horseback, and arenā€™t yā€™all glad?šŸ™‚ If she isnā€™t going to be allowed her own mount later, then donā€™t put her on one to chase quests. The Gilnean/human part about her being a wolf at the time at the time she was bitten is tough to understand for someone like me, but then the game wasnā€™t _designed_ for someone like me, was it?šŸ™‚ I _think_ that we as players are supposed to sympathize with the Wolgren as our willing allies, but thereā€™s just too much weā€™re being asked to take for granted. Someone didnā€™t take the time to think things through before putting the ā€œAPPROVEDā€ stamp regarding them on Cataclysm. Iā€™m sorry, everyone, and I am the first to admit Iā€™m handicapped when it comes to my beloved WoW, but if an idiot such as I sees a problem with my **Clawdie** having to run on all fours, then donā€™t yā€™all think that this might have been mentioned by other, more knowledgable than me, players before? Long story short? It was a shock, it really was, especially to someone who is as deeply involved with his characters as I am. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8057 "2011-03-04T09:37:13Z")
using the DF yesterday with my lvl 19 arcane mage. 1st time out, the tank is a fury warrior double wielding. I doubt he was even in defensive stance because I peeled mobs off him with my 1st spell. We kicked his ass after this kept happening and we actually looked at him. Second one was a pally, but he must not have had righteous fury on cos same issue, also he was ninjaing cloth, leather, everything. However, we couldnā€™t kick him, so the feral druid dps went bear form to help tank. Eventually the pally dropped in a sulk and the druid changed role to tank, from where things went OK. It was only mauradon! BTW, I thought mages were da bomb? Is that only at 85, because my comparitive dps so far isnā€™t amazingly great. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8058 "2011-03-04T13:23:39Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Sorry, **jayjay**! Itā€™s the Stolen Keg one in Wetlandsā€¦ Sorry, **Quasi** ā€¦I donā€™t know that one. I havenā€™t done Cataclysm Wetlands yet at all. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8059 "2011-03-04T13:58:59Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > using the DF yesterday with my lvl 19 arcane mage. > > 1st time out, the tank is a fury warrior double wielding. I doubt he was even in defensive stance because I peeled mobs off him with my 1st spell. We kicked his ass after this kept happening and we actually looked at him. > > Second one was a pally, but he must not have had righteous fury on cos same issue, also he was ninjaing cloth, leather, everything. However, we couldnā€™t kick him, so the feral druid dps went bear form to help tank. Eventually the pally dropped in a sulk and the druid changed role to tank, from where things went OK. It was only mauradon! > > BTW, I thought mages were da bomb? Is that only at 85, because my comparitive dps so far isnā€™t amazingly great. Mauradon at 19? Did they lower it that much? And for the ninja-ing - I donā€™t understand how that would work; I didnā€™t think pallies could roll Need on cloth or leather. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8060 "2011-03-04T14:01:34Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Mauradon at 19? Did they lower it that much? > > And for the ninja-ing - I donā€™t understand how that would work; I didnā€™t think pallies could roll Need on cloth or leather. That is the one with the 4 serpent lords and then the dreamer? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8061 "2011-03-04T14:17:38Z")
Wailing Caverns. But now that you mention it, they are somewhat similar. Big sprawling caves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=402) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=404)