# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8482 "2011-03-22T21:48:25Z")

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Ok, I got ackis loaded and I saw the SCAN button (missed it before) and it found only 6 recipes left. Like I said before, I have 194. The list:

Seafood Magnifique Feast (will get eventually)  
Goldthorn Tea (talk to Henry Stern in Razorfin Downs…sounds “Human” aka “Alliance”…can Horde get this recipe?)  
Runn Tum Tuber Surprise (Pusillin in Dire Maul…should be able to solo for this)  
Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin (in Azuremyst Isle…“The Great Moongraze Hunt” Quest…can a Hordie get this?)  
Lean Vennison (from the Vendor-Tron 1000 in Desolace…I’m guessing both sides can get this)  
Thistle Tea \<sigh\> (Smudge Thunderwood in Hillsbrad Foothills…Rogue only)  
That’s it. 😕

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8483 "2011-03-22T21:51:31Z")

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Gotcha guys, thanks again.

Q

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8484 "2011-03-22T21:56:13Z")

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Ok…I found more filters…looks like I can only get 4 more, not able to get Thistle Tea and Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin.

I guess I didn’t get enough of those retired recipes.

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**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8485 "2011-03-22T22:11:46Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> ..So you would set up the ones you want everyone to have under “All” and then only enable the power bar one for your rogue.

Thanks! Can’t believe I didn’t notice it before.

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**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8486 "2011-03-22T22:18:47Z")

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> [@mil0](#):
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> Hah, most of my theorycrafting in this game now involves innovative ways to grief people in my guild as well.
> 
> My favorite has gotta be levitating someone right before the jump on conclave, I’m not sure if they fixed it recently, but before they would just fly off into oblivion and subsequently die a good majority of the time. The best part is once they fly past the point where you get bounced back, they know they’re going to die, so you have a good 10 seconds of rage-filled profanity being thrown at you before you see their character frame gray out.

Yeah, that’s a really good one, but since we’re not progressing on it anymore, there’s not as many opportunities to pull that one off. The two mages in my guild have made a point of instant Pyroblasting me in the face if I get Worship as we’re wiping, so I need to find some innovative ways to fuck them over at some point. Any suggestions are welcome. 😃

@ **lizardling** : Here’s a link to a UI Screenshot - [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/wsnBp.jpg)

It’s not the best one I could do, but it’s decent and I think it was our last pull and I just remembered to take one, so it is what it is. On Grid, you can’t see PW:Shield (it’s the bottom left icon), but you can see Weakened Soul, Grace and Prayer of Mending. Center Icons are usually major debuffs, with the border highlight based on what kind of debuff it is. My Power Auras are all pretty much showing. I have one for Berserking, PW:B, PI, PS, Evangelism, Archangel, and Borrowed Time.

I want to tweak my UI, so any suggestions from anyone are welcome. Few things I want to change are how the focus debuffs are displayed (not sure I need them at all, TBH), and basically a better way to filter short-term debuffs/buffs and their displays. Also, I really want to figure out kgpanels, but I’m super lazy, so anyone who can help with that, it would be nice to hear from you.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8487 "2011-03-22T22:52:10Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Yeah. I find myself attracted and disturbed all the time by the Dryads in the game, since they are quite attractive from the waist up. It’s obviously most disturbing when I realize that from the waist down, she’s a doe, and I definitely don’t do the barnyard/wildlife thing. Always good for an internalized slap across the mental face.

[![](https://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF059-Disgusting_Ted.jpg) ](https://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF059-Disgusting_Ted.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8488 "2011-03-22T22:58:50Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Ok…I found more filters…looks like I can only get 4 more, not able to get Thistle Tea and Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin.
> 
> I guess I didn’t get enough of those retired recipes.

For the Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin, you can level up a Draenei, get the quest, and get the recipe in under an hour. Then, if you have a friend on the server who can buy it for you, you can perform auction house magic in one of the neutral auction houses to get it. This requires running all the way to one of the Neutral AH’s. It’s a giant pain in the ass, but it can be done.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8489 "2011-03-22T23:08:22Z")

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> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#):
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> For the Roasted Moongraze Tenderloin, you can level up a Draenei, get the quest, and get the recipe in under an hour. Then, if you have a friend on the server who can buy it for you, you can perform auction house magic in one of the neutral auction houses to get it. This requires running all the way to one of the Neutral AH’s. It’s a giant pain in the ass, but it can be done.

We do have an alliance guild; I could get the drenai to get it, mail it to an alliance guildmate and they could go to the neutral AH while my main is on the other end scanning for it while using Vent. Hmmm…sounds like something **Bird** can help me with…😉

Even though…I’m still at 199.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8490 "2011-03-22T23:11:35Z")

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Huh. Someone’s buying all my leather and cloth goods as soon as I load them into the auction! 🙂 That means I’m within about 700 g’s of being able to afford artisan riding. I wanted to have a “cushion” of 2 k gold over the 4 k it costs for the skill, so maybe tomorrow or the next day I can buy it.

Leather is at a high price right now (I’m selling it at 22 and 28 g’s, but it’s valued way over that as a buyout. Today I have already sold 8 stacks of 20 leather and have 4 more ready to go. I also have 8 arctic furs that need to be auctioned. I am wondering if I should split these into 4 and 4?

Also the book of glyph mastery sold this afternoon for 30g.

I either have a very satsfied customer or it’s one of y’all doing this for me.

Anybody wanna fess up?

Also, my leather wasn’t even the lowest priced! 😉

Thanks!

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8491 "2011-03-22T23:55:13Z")

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Hmmm. Artisan riding is being trained for 5k gold by Roxy Retrorocket on K3??? I could have sworn the price was 4k in SW? Maybe it has to be bought where one is exalted?

Today must be glyph mastery book day. Gotten it twice now…

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8492 "2011-03-23T00:30:44Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Hmmm. Artisan riding is being trained for 5k gold by Roxy Retrorocket on K3??? I could have sworn the price was 4k in SW? Maybe it has to be bought where one is exalted?

Yes. You’ll only get the Exalted discount from a trainer/vendor who is aligned with that faction.

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8493 "2011-03-23T00:49:47Z")

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> [@Daedelus](#):
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> @ **lizardling** : Here’s a link to a UI Screenshot - [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/wsnBp.jpg)
> 
> It’s not the best one I could do, but it’s decent and I think it was our last pull and I just remembered to take one, so it is what it is. On Grid, you can’t see PW:Shield (it’s the bottom left icon), but you can see Weakened Soul, Grace and Prayer of Mending. Center Icons are usually major debuffs, with the border highlight based on what kind of debuff it is. My Power Auras are all pretty much showing. I have one for Berserking, PW:B, PI, PS, Evangelism, Archangel, and Borrowed Time.
> 
> I want to tweak my UI, so any suggestions from anyone are welcome. Few things I want to change are how the focus debuffs are displayed (not sure I need them at all, TBH), and basically a better way to filter short-term debuffs/buffs and their displays. Also, I really want to figure out kgpanels, but I’m super lazy, so anyone who can help with that, it would be nice to hear from you.

Ooo. Thank you for the screenshot! I’m curious about what you’re using to show your buff countdowns – SBF? I like the way that you’ve unified your UI with the same color scheme and texture everywhere, and I might have to take a little of that next time I look at my UI. _contemplates_

My self-frame and target-frame are usually right spang in the middle of the screen, a habit I developed on my hunter and carried over to all my other toons; I like the idea of moving them down to the bottombut then I’d have to figure out what to do with the debuffs… (I’m using sUF with the buffs/debuffs embiggened)

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8494 "2011-03-23T01:07:58Z")

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**Daedalus** , is that on your screen _all_ the time? How do you see what your toons are doing? 🙂

Q

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**Author:** ![mil0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mil0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mil0)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8495 "2011-03-23T01:16:01Z")

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> [@Daedelus](#):
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> @ **lizardling** : Here’s a link to a UI Screenshot - [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/wsnBp.jpg)

You may want to change how that Heartsong buff is displayed…

I believe it’s supposed to say Power torrent 🙂

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8496 "2011-03-23T03:19:23Z")

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> [@Jbone](#):
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> -I’d suggest sticking with a group, or at least with a healer. A dead dps is no dps.  
> -Don’t attack a group solo, unless you know what you’re doing. I once saw a paladin charge in, ahead of an attacking force going to Slagworks (flag is up the stairs); he ran through the defenders and around to the back of the building. Most of the defending group left to follow him just before the attacking group arrived, they quickly took out the remaining defenders and capped the flag. Those who followed the paladin came back to find a group waiting for them!  
> -Try to get ahead of the capture pattern. Usually a large attacking/defending force follows a pattern on which they travel (clockwise/counterclockwise). It can make it an endless battle if it just follows that rhythm throughout the battle, so sometimes on chat you’ll see someone shout “rezzers go to \_\_\_”. Meaning, if you’re dead and come back, head to that flag area.  
> -Don’t listen to negative comments on chat. I’ve found that people who post multiple times that “Allies/Horde suck” or “You’re not doing something right” or “this is useless” are either A) sucky whiners themselves B)“Elitists” who think it should be done their way. Either way their comments do not help anyone and I often point that out. I like getting the “We just got thrashed at Slag because no one stayed to defend, you all suck, we’re gonna lose, etc”. I counter with “Thanks for that useless bit of info. Next time, how about you tell us how many just kicked your ass? That would be more helpful.”. Which kind of brings me to my next point.  
> -If you do find yourself defending solo, or with a very small group which is sure to get over run, I try to defend outside the gate in the direction the attacking force will come (remember the clockwise/counterclockwise thing). I figure they’re going to kill me in 2 seconds anyway. If I’m not standing in a capture point, that’s 2-less seconds that they would be standing in a capture point if I stun/slow them outside.

Okay, I got most of those going right now. Sometimes I wibble when it comes to people saying ‘rezzers go here’ because I go there and there’s like a tiny group and we just get smashed. Continuing to defend the place we still have seems like a better strategy, especially for ranged DPS. In PvP, I’m useless at melee, but I can defend from higher ground.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8497 "2011-03-23T03:19:45Z")

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Having trouble with this one, y’all.

I know I am looking for the captain’s log, right?

Here’s a screenshot of where I’ve been looking (where the arrow shows it should be): in this red area:

[http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/gunshipdown.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/gunshipdown.jpg),

but all I found was one elemental.

I have the other 2 clues, but this one’s been the devil to try to find!

Thanks for any help!

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8498 "2011-03-23T04:41:14Z")

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And yep, he’s standing right on the water. Someone gave me a present of 8 flasks of Essence of Water Walking, and I decided to put it to good use! 😃

[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkfish.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkfish.jpg)

That fisherman’s feast quest from Flayer? If you go to that pond where the Earthenring is, there’s 2 fishermen. One you can only steal from once (I think), but the one on the SW side you can go back to till you get all five of your catfish. Easy daily.

Q

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**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8499 "2011-03-23T07:05:28Z")

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> [@lizardling](#):
>
> Ooo. Thank you for the screenshot! I’m curious about what you’re using to show your buff countdowns – SBF? I like the way that you’ve unified your UI with the same color scheme and texture everywhere, and I might have to take a little of that next time I look at my UI. _contemplates_
> 
> My self-frame and target-frame are usually right spang in the middle of the screen, a habit I developed on my hunter and carried over to all my other toons; I like the idea of moving them down to the bottombut then I’d have to figure out what to do with the debuffs… (I’m using sUF with the buffs/debuffs embiggened)

Yeah, I’m using SBF for pretty much all of my buffs/debuffs for player/target/focus frames. My personal debuffs are in the upper left-hand corner, but I didn’t have any at the time, so you can’t see the frame. For raid-wiping debuffs, I usually will set up a Power Aura for them that show up in the middle of my screen.

> [@Quasimodem](#):
>
> **Daedalus** , is that on your screen _all_ the time? How do you see what your toons are doing? 🙂
> 
> Q

**Quasi** , all of that isn’t on my screen _all_ the time, but it is on my screen for a lot of the big fights that I work on with my guild. I know it probably seems like a lot, but over the years, I’ve grown accustomed to taking in that information. I could probably stand to organize some of it better, but overall it suits me fairly well. As for seeing what my toon is doing, it’s a lot harder to do when you’re all in a big clump like that (with 24 of your closest friends), but once you move out of the pile it’s a lot easier to see.

> [@mil0](#):
>
> You may want to change how that Heartsong buff is displayed…
> 
> I believe it’s supposed to say Power torrent 🙂

Quiet you. I’ve been waiting for a weapon upgrade for a while, and I’m too cheap to spend the money on the Maelstroms. Poor excuse, I know, but for some reason I’m being very stubborn about enchanting Power Torrent on a i359. Your chastising will not get me to change my mind, especially since I have access to a BIS mace, I just need to bribe a few officers to vote for me next time we kill Nef.

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**Author:** ![mil0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mil0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mil0)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8500 "2011-03-23T09:57:09Z")

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How long have you been in Aftermath, **Daedelus**? Do you know someone named Mistax?

I’m [World of Warcraft](http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malganis/perls/simple) btw.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8501 "2011-03-23T10:29:05Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
>
> And yep, he’s standing right on the water. Someone gave me a present of 8 flasks of Essence of Water Walking, and I decided to put it to good use! 😃
> 
> [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkfish.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkfish.jpg)
> 
> That fisherman’s feast quest from Flayer? If you go to that pond where the Earthenring is, there’s 2 fishermen. One you can only steal from once (I think), but the one on the SW side you can go back to till you get all five of your catfish. Easy daily.
> 
> Q

Consider yourself lucky not to be playing a Paladin **Q** , I refuse to steal from the common man of Stormwind on my paladin so have to fish these up myself.

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