# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 433
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8642 "2011-03-26T14:30:12Z")
[QUOTE=Daedelus] Do you seriously still mash Chain Heal? I know that Disc priests get 60%+ of their healing from PW:Shield, but I felt that other classes/specs have a more diverse set of heals that made up their throughput. I know as a druid, WG/Rejuv make up large parts of the throughput, but Healing Touch and Lifebloom play much larger roles, and Regrowth/Swiftmend also contribute. For me, that makes playing a healer much more interesting and fun, is actually having spell selections that matter. If the mechanics of your class (I haven’t raided on a Resto shaman since ICC) are that limited (such as they somewhat are with mine), then that’s another problem entirely. [/QUOTE] Our group isn’t doing heroic raids yet, but I do raid as a resto shaman and I use Chain Heal and Healing Rain the majority of the time, unless it’s on fights like Nef where I’m tank healing. With my gear level I can’t spam Chain Heal like I used to in Wrath, but I’m getting there. Then again I’m the raid healer for our group so healing with Healing Wave/Greater Healing Wave wouldn’t be very efficient. A little FYI for all you guilds with the “Have Group, Will Travel” perk. If you summon your raid on the elevator in BWD, they will appear at the exact spot you summoned them even if the elevator isn’t there. I killed quite a few people on Thursday, hilarious but I felt bad afterwards. We spent all of Thursday working on Nef and I have to say the toughest part of the encounter is jumping on the friggen platforms. It’s going to take me forever to be able to jump on that platform in one smooth motion. Either I got stuck on the edge or was too far away and by the time I got up there people were almost dead. Spacebar boss is hard. I think we did really well for our first attempts though and I’m sure we’ll get him down next week. Did a bit of BWD on my warrior tank yesterday with an alt group, I had missed tanking so much so it was really refreshing. Hadn’t tanked anything but Magmaw, but knew the fights so everything went smoothly, got 4 bosses down and called it an early night. Quite a few BoE’s dropped, including Fury of Angerforge. No tank looks, but I walked away with the plate DPS chest from Chimaeron… or was it Atramedes. Either way, everyone had fun, people got some upgrades, good night all around. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8643 "2011-03-26T18:43:37Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > **Quasi** , I’ve been trying to come up with good wording so that I can announce in General chat that I’m going to be offering a class at Stormwind University called “Remedial Reading for Druids”. Just because I figure people with, say, first-grade reading skills are overwhelmingly attracted to that class. My evidence for this is the astonishing number of times I’ve seen druids in flight form zip up to the SW cooking or fishing daily questgivers and then hover there for several minutes. I assume they’re having to painstakingly sound out every word, and that’s what’s taking them so long. Man, if I were one of those super awesome people that has the best/rarest mount at the time I would just go around Stormwind, hover over the jackasses and fire off a chat macro to the effect of '[my char]‘s dick is bigger than [jackass’s]’. I’m sure that would rile them up enough to move away from the questgiver. 😃 On another note, what’s a good addon to use for PvP to find who in the sea of nameplates is a healer? I know I want to kill the healers first, but I can’t find them! I flick through targets trying to find a Priest or whatever, but there’s gotta be something that mods the nameplates or something. I have a feeling this is going to lead me into the dark, scary world of unit frames. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8644 "2011-03-26T18:50:31Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > On another note, what’s a good addon to use for PvP to find who in the sea of nameplates is a healer? I know I want to kill the healers first, but I can’t find them! I flick through targets trying to find a Priest or whatever, but there’s gotta be something that mods the nameplates or something. I have a feeling this is going to lead me into the dark, scary world of unit frames. I use TidyPlates. The Neon frameset (and I assume the others as well) has the option to color nameplates by class color and I think even show the class icon. Has made it way easier for me to tell who’s what and what’s who in a pvp battle. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8645 "2011-03-26T20:19:45Z")
“Fish Don’t Leave Footprints” Is this like that “herb finder” thingie, or is it a passive ability. Just wondered if there should be a macro for it? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8646 "2011-03-26T20:37:47Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > “Fish Don’t Leave Footprints” > > Is this like that “herb finder” thingie, or is it a passive ability. Just wondered if there should be a macro for it? > > Thanks > > Q It’s like other tracking. The dropdown on your minimap can activate it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8647 "2011-03-26T22:00:31Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Man, if I were one of those super awesome people that has the best/rarest mount at the time I would just go around Stormwind, hover over the jackasses and fire off a chat macro to the effect of '[my char]‘s dick is bigger than [jackass’s]’. I’m sure that would rile them up enough to move away from the questgiver. 😃 I have discovered that my draenei paladin’s “epic” (level 40) class elekk mount is big enough to almost completely conceal most drake mounts (pretty much everything but the wings) if the drake is sitting on the ground. It’s funny how quick most of them will fly away as soon as I park right on top of them and take away the “everybody look at me” thing 😛 Aside from the druid in flight form thing, the other one I’ve noticed is shadow priests on flying carpets. While the druids like to hover beak-to-nose with the cooking questgiver, the spriests like to hover right on top of the fishing questgiver. What would really help would be if Blizzard would freaking stop positioning these questgivers in such a way that they can only be conveniently approached from one direction. No, they have to put them right on the edge of the dock, or backed up against an obstacle, so that the mount riders don’t even have to stand on top of them, they just have to park in front of them where they can say, “but I’m not covering him/her up!” Since I play both factions, I’ve recently realized that all you have to do to prove Blizzard’s “Horde bias” is compare the two factions’ cooking and fishing dailies: 1. Horde gets to catch crawfish that live mostly in ankle-deep water, almost everywhere in Orgrimmar, and they often come out of the water and practically walk up to you and say “Pick me!”. The Alliance gets to catch crabs that live only in the canals, in water that’s too deep to wade in but too shallow to easily swim in if you’re bigger than a dwarf, don’t spawn in numbers anywhere near those of the Org crawfish, and the canals are obstacle courses of boats that nobody but gnomes can swim under despite there being approximately 4 feet of space between the bottom of the boats and the bottom of the canals. And Blizz says they can’t put collision detection on NPCs to prevent people parking on them, but they have no problem putting collision detection on a discarded wine bottle that sticks six inches out of the muck at the bottom of the canal so that your swimming toon runs into it and gets hung up. 2. Horde gets to collect clam meat from big, harmless clams. Alliance gets to gather lobsters from traps that are guarded by wandering level 85 sharks. 3. Horde gets to fish from locations within Org’s city limits that are safe for even the lowest-level characters. Alliance gets to fish from a spot outside the city, swarming with bandits that are a pain for a low-level character to fight through, and who respawn and attack you while you’re fishing. 4. The Horde’s “go steal this foodstuff” quest has the target objects concentrated in one specific area. The Alliance’s version has the target objects spread all over Stormwind, one here, one there. Boo! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8648 "2011-03-26T22:39:33Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s like other tracking. The dropdown on your minimap can activate it. Thanks, **jayjay**! Note to **Rik** : I did the quest for the Nat Pagle fishing pole and am now using it. I got to Stormfeather Outpost, went to see the guy, but he wasn’t offering me the quest. So I clicked on him anyway, and I saw it was a gray quest. First time I’ve ever gone _back_ to get a drop. I’m at 202 now and when I reach 225, I’ll train up and then go see the kid in Shatt. Funny thing about that hat from the dailies. I think she gave it to me twice already, but I vendored it! 🙂 I’ll know better next time. Thanks Q PS: Did some pool fishing as well, but those little guys are hard to hit. Wish you could target them before casting! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8649 "2011-03-26T23:43:02Z")
After my 50/60 borean leather auction expired with no sale, I went ahead and put it back at 13/18, recommended is 17/20. When I looked just now, someone had come in and listed like 25 stacks at 16/17. Something like that happened a few nights ago, when some kids posted theirs at 4/5, just for a laugh, I guess. Am I pissing someone off? Because I can do this all night long. I have like 30 stacks in reserve which I can list at 5/6 if I want to. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8650 "2011-03-27T00:33:37Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > After my 50/60 borean leather auction expired with no sale, I went ahead and put it back at 13/18, recommended is 17/20. > > When I looked just now, someone had come in and listed like 25 stacks at 16/17. > > Something like that happened a few nights ago, when some kids posted theirs at 4/5, just for a laugh, I guess. > > Am I pissing someone off? > > Because I can do this all night long. I have like 30 stacks in reserve which I can list at 5/6 if I want to. > > Thanks > > Q Quasi, I know how you love to have it all about you (please note the 😉 in my voice), most people never note who is buying or selling things on the AH. If I post something I’ll notice that someone might have 30 of the same item posted which is a lot, but I forget a second later. It is very rare for someone to be noted for selling something on the AH. For example, there’s a rare vendored item for a quest in Shadowmoon Valley. The vendor only sells one or two a day, once he’s out of stock, you have to come back later. If someone manages to camp the vendor for days at a time and get all those items to sell on the AH, someone might notice, but for common mats like Frostweave? No one keeps track. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8651 "2011-03-27T00:55:49Z")
Um, that’s kind hard right there, **Kushiel** , but the truth hurts sometimes, so okay. I guess I’m just so totally immersed in the game that I give the impression that it’s all about me and I don’t always think before I write something, and I do write a lot here, I know that. But thanks for the explanation and I will try not to take the game so seriously from now on. Q ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8652 "2011-03-27T03:23:49Z")
Just so you know, I’m probably someone who pisses people off on the auction house. I don’t sell anything regularly, so when I _do_ have spare stacks of something, or green drops I can’t use, the most I do is see what stuff is going for, and yep…undercut it by a bit. Especially on high-end items that seem ridiculously priced. On a couple of occasions, I sold rare cloth that has a week cool-down on creation for 1/3 lower than on the AH, 'cause the price was just ridiculous-seeming. It got bought up and relisted almost immediately, and I’m fine with that, as I get my desired money. There are lots of folks like me, and it’s never personal. It’s just business; not very GOOD business, as I’ve been told repeatedly by my sweetie =p. But I’m not a high-roller; I don’t care what it sells for, as long as it sells for what it’s worth to ME. And it’s a game, so none of it’s worth that much to me, really. /apologies on behalf of all the ‘undercutters’ who just want some quick cash. 🙂 p.s. I love undercutters, sometimes. Ran into a situation the other day where I felt almost criminal about buying out 3 stacks of TreasureFinding potions for 20 gold a potion; that’s easily 1/5th of what it normally sells for, when it’s for sale at all. I had made up my mind to send the guy a couple of hundred gold in the mail with a note letting him/her know what the usual rate is, but it ended up being a stupid bank-alt name with no guild, so screw it. It was probably a mistake, but I hate stupid names so oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8653 "2011-03-27T03:32:34Z")
You’re not pissing anyone off by being an arbitrage opportunity. > [@Daedelus](#): > > Do you mind if I send you a PM about this? I’m interested in setting something up, but don’t really know how to pull it off. PM me, make a thread, post it here – whatever works for you. All the stuff I’ve done is streaming though, so I’m not up on my optimum encoding settings or stylish editing. I can get you to the file-on-your-hard-drive stage no problem, probably. A guy over in the Blops thread named Lobsang posts a lot of videos to youtube, he probably knows a thing or two also. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8654 "2011-03-27T04:19:56Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Um, that’s kind hard right there, **Kushiel** , but the truth hurts sometimes, so okay. > > I guess I’m just so totally immersed in the game that I give the impression that it’s all about me and I don’t always think before I write something, and I do write a lot here, I know that. > > But thanks for the explanation and I will try not to take the game so seriously from now on. > > Q Quasi, I put the 😉 in there for a reason! It’s okay. I was just trying to say that they aren’t changing prices because of you and you haven’t done anything wrong. Feel free to continue being totally serious about things! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8655 "2011-03-27T05:03:55Z")
Note to self: Do not put your goblin trike on automatic forward when you’re near the chasm in the Barrens. I’m going along trying to get to Stonetalon and suddenly I’m doing a Thelma & Louise right down into the lava. Not fun… ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8656 "2011-03-27T05:48:13Z")
I tried to make my nelf male equip the [Scandalous Silk Nightgown](http://www.wowhead.com/item=63131). Alas, it is not wearable. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8657 "2011-03-27T12:41:49Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Of course, the grandaddy of fishing poles is the [Mastercraft Kalu’ak Fishing Pole](http://www.wowhead.com/item=44050) (requires 300 Fishing skill to use). To get that, you’ll need to do all or most of the Kalu’ak quests in Northrend (they’re in Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord, and Dragonblight), and then do their daily quests until you reach Exalted with them. Then they’ll sell you the pole - it costs more than 100g. Just got Seth’s pole a little while ago, **Rik** , and I’m at level 229 with my fishing, so someday soon I hope I’ll have the Mastercraft. Right now I’m just honored with the Kaluans, but I’ll be glad to have the extra dailies. Those sure are helping to speed things along. I’m 76% on the way to level 83. Thanks to you and **Tahssa** for the help! Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8658 "2011-03-27T12:46:24Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Quasi, I put the 😉 in there for a reason! It’s okay. I was just trying to say that they aren’t changing prices because of you and you haven’t done anything wrong. Feel free to continue being totally serious about things! It’s just been a rougher than usual WoW week for me. Forgetting stuff I’m supposed to know, and the added embarrasment of having to come here to ask y’all all kinds of goofy shit. I know I must be perplexing to you guys, and I do have a special folder where I transfer your answers for future reference, but then I forget that I have it. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8659 "2011-03-27T18:04:53Z")
It’s not perplexing at all. Don’t worry about your out-of-game issue affecting your game; trust me when I say there are hundreds of ‘noobs’ who ask the goofiest questions all the time…even if they knew the answer at one point and just spaced it. Trust me on this one! I love when someone asks a question in /general that I can answer, 'cause usually it’s _me_ asking those questions. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8660 "2011-03-27T18:16:14Z")
Well, I appreciate it, **Tao**. I know y’all don’t mind, but my brain makeup is such that I think to myself, “Oh shit, here I go again! Have I asked this before or not?” and it makes me feel a bit awkward asking so many times. On another topic, I have solved my auction “problem”. If you’ll do a search on Borean Leather, you might see 2 names in addition to **Wolkie’s** you may recognize. 😉 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8661 "2011-03-27T19:05:31Z")
Is there any advantage to the Baradin’s Wardens/Hellscream’s Guards rep doing the TB battleground other than the weekly 3 commendation quest? I haven’t noticed anything bringing my rep up or getting additional commendations. If so, I might stop doing TB. I’m too much of a carebear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=432) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=434)