# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 435
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8682 "2011-03-28T16:00:39Z")
My guess is that “250” is his current skill, “20” is his bonus (for an effective skill of 270) and “300” is the maximium level he’s trained for. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8683 "2011-03-28T16:10:58Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > My guess is that “250” is his current skill, “20” is his bonus (for an effective skill of 270) and “300” is the maximium level he’s trained for. You’re correct. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8684 "2011-03-28T16:58:11Z")
> [@Enilno](#): > > Maybe it’s just class differences showing through, but yes, for most of the fights I’m still mashing chain heal in between healing rain casts. Not all the time, but we didn’t spam one spell all the time in Wrath either. In fact we were one of the classes where it was optimal to not be spamming one or two heals all the time. > > Blizzard started out saying that the shaman healing model was what they were aiming for in the Cata revamp, so it makes sense that our spell usage remains more or less the same. That’s in fact one of my complaints for Cata. Every other class has some significant change in the way they heal. Maybe just a case of the grass being greener. > > Healing rain of course makes up a large part of our healing now, and optimizing its use is a fun challenge, but it’s just kept more or less on cooldown, and other than that I’m still using the same spell selection criteria as I was before. > > But yes, HPM matters more now than it did before. It just happens that for Shamans, our spells with the highest HPM also have the highest HPS, so there really is not that much to choose from. Y’all know how I’m always telling you that stuff like this sounds like a foreign language to me because of all the “WoW Speak”? Okay. In my fantasy, the above quote by **Enilno** got printed onto paper and sent through a tear in the fabric of time, where a strong wind in the parking lot of the FBI Academy in Quantico, VA blows it against the windshield of the car belonging to none other than J. Edgar Hoover who peels it off, reads it and… (y’all take it from here!:)) Q ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8685 "2011-03-28T17:02:14Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Well, there’s the fact that you get access to extra dailies only if your faction wins the PvP battle every 2 1/2 hours; if you can meaningfully contribute (i.e., you’re skilled and geared well enough to help your side win), the win will open up more opportunities for badges per day. And, as I’m sure you know, that exalted drake is exorbitantly expensive; as many dailies as you can pull off is a good thing. > > OTOH, since you admitted to being a care bear, I suspect (using my own experience as a guide) that there are other players who can occupy your slot in the PvP raid to better effect. (Certainly, when I get into the PvP event, my main role is scouting and dying, not necessarily in that order.) Okay, sounds good. My server is tilted toward Horde controlled so when Alliance goes we need the best people out there. I’ve never had trouble finding a time of day where Alliance controls it though, so I’ll just benefit from the hard work of our best PvPers. 😃 Especially since my strategy has become THERE’S A PRIEST, KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT WITH RANGED ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8686 "2011-03-28T17:05:16Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Y’all know how I’m always telling you that stuff like this sounds like a foreign language to me because of all the “WoW Speak”? > > Okay. In my fantasy, the above quote by **Enilno** got printed onto paper and sent through a tear in the fabric of time, where a strong wind in the parking lot of the FBI Academy in Quantico, VA blows it against the windshield of the car belonging to none other than J. Edgar Hoover who peels it off, reads it and… > > (y’all take it from here!:)) > > Q is very confused. The only heels he knows anything about are the ones he allegedly wears for his alleged assignations with his alleged boyfriend. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8687 "2011-03-28T17:08:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > No, you actually **don’t** have to do that quest any more. They just left it in for people who still want to do it anyway. And it’s worth doing - it rewards a nice fishing pole that I forgot about when I was talking about fishing poles the other day. In fact, I just did the Horde version of the quest on my undead warrior last night. > It took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about here! The first number is your actual Fishing skill, the second number (it shows up in green, right?) is the bonus you’re getting from your new fishing pole and any other bonuses from lures or your fishing hat (did you say you had one of those?); the third number is your “new” fishing score after the bonuses have been added. Great! Thanks, **Rik**! I’m looking forward to upgrading my pole and my skills. Also about those numbers? Yes, the second one is in green and also appears over the chat/combat log under the heading “Skill”. Don’t have the hat, but I think I may have been given it, didn’t know what it was and vendored it.:smack: Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8688 "2011-03-28T23:58:50Z")
I wish there were a way to check what’s in your bank while you’re out in the field. Also, back to **Wolkie’s** being knocked sideways or even backward… The GM maintains that the best way to fix that way is to “steer” him back correctly with a mouse. Well, if I do that, it’s like an 8-step maneuver, and, while that’s okay with lower-level NPC’s, I would die with anything 80 or above, if I tried to correct. So… I have decided to play him that way and see if the game will correct him. It does, but only when he loots. When he picks up his stuff, he’s facing correctly. Additionally, if it happens that I leave him alone to fight with his back to the enemy and don’t make at least a MINOR correction so _some_ of his hits get in, it goes on for forever. So sometimes his hits get in obliquely. This happens mostly in Gundrak with the Raptors and it happens about 3 times an hour. I know, that in a real world, it might happen that your enemy may knock you down, but not knock you backward. Sorry, but I still think it’s a game problem and I’ve put in another ticket. Y’all have never had this problem? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8689 "2011-03-29T00:43:14Z")
I like to put together special Fishing outfits for all my toons, so I thought I’d throw together a collage of a bunch of my toons all geared up to go fishing: [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fishing.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fishing.jpg) Enjoy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8690 "2011-03-29T02:03:49Z")
Wow, **Rik**! **Very nice**! I like them all, but my favorite is the nearly naked one on the left. Don’t know if it’s the way her panties are made or a trick of the light, but it looks like she doesn’t shave her pubes. They probably didn’t do that back then, huh?😉 Did you do the collage with photo-shop, 'cause I sure would like to do mine that way, once I get a few more levels onto them. Again, great job dressing them out for fishing. They look awesome. Q ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8691 "2011-03-29T02:26:50Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I like to put together special Fishing outfits for all my toons, so I thought I’d throw together a collage of a bunch of my toons all geared up to go fishing: > > [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fishing.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fishing.jpg) > > Enjoy 🙂 The nelf and draenei males look like they’ve wet themselves! Hee hee. Also, I would not fuck with that tauren. He looks like he could kill Deathwing with his fishing pole. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8692 "2011-03-29T05:05:02Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Wow, **Rik**! **Very nice**! > > I like them all, but my favorite is the nearly naked one on the left. > > Don’t know if it’s the way her panties are made or a trick of the light, but it looks like she doesn’t shave her pubes. > > They probably didn’t do that back then, huh?😉 Those aren’t panties! That’s one of those “loincloth” things. > [@](#): > > Did you do the collage with photo-shop, 'cause I sure would like to do mine that way, once I get a few more levels onto them. Yep, Photoshop Elements. It was kind of a quick, “thrown-together” project, though, so not my best work. I used to design desktop wallpapers featuring Japanese models & actresses that got lots of compliments (including one from a professional graphic designer who said my use of typography was better than a lot of what he’d seen from trained pros). That was when I still had access to the full, professional version of Photoshop. PS Elements is a very dumbed-down version, and it often frustrates me. > [@](#): > > Again, great job dressing them out for fishing. They look awesome. Thanks! > [@kushiel](#): > > The nelf and draenei males look like they’ve wet themselves! Hee hee. Also, I would not fuck with that tauren. He looks like he could kill Deathwing with his fishing pole. Nah, that tauren’s only level 33 😛 He and the draenei male are both protection paladins. My “main” is the human female at the bottom center (ret pally), and the two female draenei are my other 85s (the dark one is a fire mage and the really white one is an arms warrior). The male night elf and the female nelf next to him are brother and sister; he’s a level 80 hunter and she’s a level … 26 I think … priest. The lighting makes it hard to tell, but they have the same color hair. Their skin tones are different due mainly to him being an outdoorsy type, while she’s an indoors and nighttime type (y’know, moon priestess and all that). The gnome is a level 40-ish rogue; the dwarf is a level 47 hunter. The undead is Dimondley, my bitter, hates-being-allied-with-orcs-and-the-like arms/fury warrior, and the human male is obviously a DK (but don’t ask me what spec cuz I never play him and can’t remember). Oh, and the female nelf in the upper right is another priest (level 65). ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8693 "2011-03-29T07:51:53Z")
I do know I’m not the bestest healer out there, but seriously… if the tank acts like he’s never heard of interrupt, pulls five of those razor-handed aliens and two crystal giants in the part right behind the worm, manages to place his ass in between the dragon and two dropped stones during the second bossfight (my braids were tickling the dragon’s chin as I cast), and later on pulls three groups of small mobs and a jumpy giant, it is not MY fault! (Wipes at the two multipulls, DPS warrior flat at the dragon) Four melee group, too. I want to grab that tank’s shield and smack him with it, repeatedly. Oh yes and he also didn’t seem to understand the concept of “move behind the gravity wells”. Apparently “behind” means “the area mobs come from”. Does anybody have a shield with a spike I can borrow? I have a tank that needs bashing. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8694 "2011-03-29T10:51:59Z")
Nice fishing picture **Mister Rik** A good night for me starting with passing my trail for the new guild so I’m now down as social player which means I can be included in the casual weekend raiding. It’s a pity I don’t play that much at the weekends (that’s family time in our house) but hopefully I’ll be able to experience something. My rogue hit level 60 and now can fly his helicopter! This is my 4th toon to experience Hellfire Peninsula and I have to say I really like the zone though I know that’s not a common opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8695 "2011-03-29T13:19:53Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I do know I’m not the bestest healer out there, but seriously… [snip]. Preach it! Although I had a couple of good runs yesterday - a very smooth run through H Deadmines with the guild (but my bracers didn’t drop, dammit) and an awesome group in Auchenai Crypts with my shammy. That tank was running through crypts like the last boss had a pizza buffet for us. We did the whole instance in 9 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8696 "2011-03-29T13:45:13Z")
> [@martu](#): > > My rogue hit level 60 and now can fly his helicopter! This is my 4th toon to experience Hellfire Peninsula and I have to say I really like the zone though I know that’s not a common opinion. Being able to fly in Outland now at level 60 really speeds up the levelling, and reduces a lot of the frustration I was starting to feel on some of my later passes through there. There are a lot of quests were before you had to grind through many mobs to reach the target; now you can just swoop in and drop onto the target without any difficulty. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8697 "2011-03-29T13:50:42Z")
> [@martu](#): > > A good night for me starting with passing my trail for the new guild > > … > > My rogue hit level 60 and now can fly his helicopter! Congratulations. _makes whuppawhuppa noises while mimicking flying a helicopter_ ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8698 "2011-03-29T14:23:57Z")
> [@martu](#): > > My rogue hit level 60 and now can fly his helicopter! Now you need a [stealth helicopter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing/Sikorsky_RAH-66_Comanche). And the tribarrel 20mm cannon will give the hunters rifle envy. Seems a little unfair, but you can avenge rogues the entire game over who got ninja outrolled on obvious rogue lewt. It’s hard to overstate how easy flying makes questing. No more fighting roadside pulls while riding to the quest area. No more fighting your tedious way in to a quest objective. No more fighting your equally tedious way back out after doing the thing. Vertical envelopment at its finest! DEATH FROM ABOVE! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8699 "2011-03-29T14:37:36Z")
I finally got _The Shattering_ out of the library last night. It’s actually kind of disconcerting reading about people like Thrall and Garrosh and Cairne and Jaina in narrative, instead of through game exposition like I normally do. And I had no idea that that old cow Magatha had her hand in what Garrosh has become…although I’m not surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8700 "2011-03-29T15:04:41Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > That tank was running through crypts like the last boss had a pizza buffet for us. We did the whole instance in 9 minutes. So how was the pizza? 😉 More Nefarian attempts tonight, I think. Hopefully we can get folks familiar with the swimming out of the lava part and move onto P3… I’m not sure a kill is incoming, but hopefully progress. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8701 "2011-03-29T15:06:39Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > It’s hard to overstate how easy flying makes questing. No more fighting roadside pulls while riding to the quest area. No more fighting your tedious way in to a quest objective. No more fighting your equally tedious way back out after doing the thing. Vertical envelopment at its finest! DEATH FROM ABOVE! Not just questing either - gathering herbs or ore is 1000% easier from my chopper as well, unless I’m in a zone twenty levels below me (in which case ground mounts are faster). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=434) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=436)