# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 437
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8722 "2011-03-29T21:48:08Z")
> [@Enilno](#): > > If you were in a pug and a tank ignores an add spawn he’s assigned to would you try to grab it and potentially save the raid or stand there and do nothing to avoid offending said tank, who might just be a bit slow on the taunt? I can and have waited until I’m sure that the other tank actually is fucking up, rather than running around and picking up all of their assigned adds before they’re actually a problem. > [@Skammer](#): > > Since I started the whole cross-healing discussion, I’ll point out that this was the original scenario - a pug raid doing Baradin Hold. I wasn’t too concerned about hurting the other healer’s feelings, he had already lost one DPS and I didn’t want us to wipe because I could have helped him but didn’t. Okay, see, that death is an important piece of information that wasn’t present in your original post (that I recall). That’s why I said that what you were doing \*may \*have been heal sniping, when the original info was just that they were around 50% HP–I wasn’t trying to be accusatory, just making you aware of what could be the start of what is regarded by some players as a bad habit. \*Constantly topping off \*another healer’s group is heal sniping. _Keeping them from death_, when the healer has already let one of them die, is being a good raider. > [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > To be fair I did warn them that I was going to summon them on the elevator and to BE CAREFUL! But how were they supposed to “be careful”? It’s not like they could see where the elevator was when you cast the summons, or where the elevator was when they accepted it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8723 "2011-03-29T21:53:12Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > And if you roll Tauren dr00d, it’s a billion times easier again, since the gathering cast time is cut to .5 second. I’d actually like to hear Blizzard’s rationale for that. I mean, just look at the size of those cow fingers! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8724 "2011-03-29T22:01:41Z")
Speaking of the tauren herbalism racial, I really enjoy the corresponding skinning benefit on my worgen (+15 skill and faster skinning time). I didn’t even realize that bonus was there when I picked skinning/LW for my hunter but I’m glad I did. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8725 "2011-03-29T22:45:54Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’d actually like to hear Blizzard’s rationale for that. I mean, just look at the size of those cow fingers! Umm… natural grazers? If you’ve ever watched a cow polish off a pile of hay, you wouldn’t doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8726 "2011-03-29T22:52:07Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Speaking of the tauren herbalism racial, I really enjoy the corresponding skinning benefit on my worgen (+15 skill and faster skinning time). I didn’t even realize that bonus was there when I picked skinning/LW for my hunter but I’m glad I did. There’s some forum angst about that, specifically Worgen skinners ninja-skinning other peoples’ kills, even while the original hunter is in the act of skinning. I can see the point. Frankly, the apparent gathering mechanic of “first past the post” (first to finish casting the gathering spell) rather than “first to the post” (first to start casting the gathering spell) can cause a fairness problem. On non-PvP servers, there’s literally no recourse. it hasn’t happened to my skinning farmer yet, but I suppose I should be mentally ready for it. (And maybe start doing my farming in PvP spec and gear, since I do play on a PvP server, and can interrupt a ninja-skinner if I’m quick enough.) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8727 "2011-03-29T22:52:37Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’d actually like to hear Blizzard’s rationale for that. I mean, just look at the size of those cow fingers! [Seriously!](http://www.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/wow-herbalism.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8728 "2011-03-29T22:54:18Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [Seriously!](http://www.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/wow-herbalism.jpg) _shudder_ I dimly remember when you could fail gather attempts. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8729 "2011-03-29T22:56:59Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Umm… natural grazers? If you’ve ever watched a cow polish off a pile of hay, you wouldn’t doubt it. But … but … tauren are supposed to _pick_ the flowers, not _eat_ them! > [@jayjay](#): > > [Seriously!](http://www.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/wow-herbalism.jpg) Ha! I was thinking about that cartoon when I posted! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8730 "2011-03-29T23:09:51Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > _shudder_ I dimly remember when you could fail gather attempts. Oh, yes…that desperate feeling of “OMG I’m going to lose this node to that nelf/human/whatever standing behind me now!” ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8731 "2011-03-30T00:50:45Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I do know I’m not the bestest healer out there, but seriously… if the tank acts like he’s never heard of interrupt, pulls five of those razor-handed aliens and two crystal giants in the part right behind the worm, manages to place his ass in between the dragon and two dropped stones during the second bossfight (my braids were tickling the dragon’s chin as I cast), and later on pulls three groups of small mobs and a jumpy giant, it is not MY fault! (Wipes at the two multipulls, DPS warrior flat at the dragon) > > Four melee group, too. I want to grab that tank’s shield and smack him with it, repeatedly. > > Oh yes and he also didn’t seem to understand the concept of “move behind the gravity wells”. Apparently “behind” means “the area mobs come from”. Does anybody have a shield with a spike I can borrow? I have a tank that needs bashing. /loans you a spikey shield Every once in a while, I consider jumping my Paladin, fairly well geared for mid-60’s, into a dungeon, but there is no role I could play. I could off heal, or off tank, but because I don’t know the dungeons, I’m scared %^&\*(less to tank. There is just no way I could jump in and go “Ok, where we going?” As a DPS…um…wtf…there are pure dps classes, why the hell would I gimp a group by being far less damaging than a nakked Warlock? Healing’s the only thing I could remotely consider, but honestly, I’d be worried about healing with ONLY a Paladin. Basically I need to get off my lazy, going-on-two-decades-of-mostly-soloing arse and join a guild that doesn’t mind non-noobs who are still…noobs. To dungeons, anyway. \ ((Pay no attention to the Paladin running down WSG with the flag who suddenly gets all shiny, drops the flag, and keeps running, wondering where the flag went. \>.\< Hey, I made up for it later! BUT OMG that was embarassing. Think it was the first time I’d ever even thought to use Divine Shield, too. :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: )) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8732 "2011-03-30T03:31:47Z")
What is with all the lovelorn orcs in Ashenvale?! I’m starting to feel like a very short, very green Dolly Levi… ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8733 "2011-03-30T03:56:41Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Basically I need to get off my lazy, going-on-two-decades-of-mostly-soloing arse and join a guild that doesn’t mind non-noobs who are still…noobs. To dungeons, anyway. \ This game is a lot older than I thought it was. 😃 Not much going on over here. Settling into my routine of Tol Barad dailies followed by a random dungeon and surveying sites. Have the Tauren and Gnomes not been on Azeroth long enough to have artifacts? I understand the Goblins not having any because they’d never waste what they could sell! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8734 "2011-03-30T04:56:54Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Have the Tauren and Gnomes not been on Azeroth long enough to have artifacts? I understand the Goblins not having any because they’d never waste what they could sell! The Tauren were nomads for a _very_ long time. Their construction tended toward wood and bone and leather, and as campsites were impermanent the buildings did not need to be solidly built, so it certainly makes sense that anything they left behind would eventually degrade, unlike the stone ruins of the other races. It was only in Cairne’s lifetime that they settled into Thunder Bluff and started thinking about more permanent settlements. So far as I can tell, the only gnomish settlement is Gnomeregan, so there wouldn’t be ruins or artifacts anywhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8735 "2011-03-30T06:22:01Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > Bird form is great for highly contested ground spawns for quests, too. I’ve gotten the finger several times on my druid while doing the Dragonmaw dailies in Twilight Highlands 🙂 Heck, when I see a Big Bird (specially one of the reddish BBs) I don’t bother run toward the barrel, I know birdie will grab it before I’m even halfway to it. > [@Skammer](#): > > I realized last night, when doing the TB Peninsula quests, that I had been doing one of them wrong and was being a jerk to boot. > > You know the one with “magnets” in the name, “How magnets work” or something? … Whenever I saw one I’d have to pounce on it before someone else could pick it up - there was always someone else right there when it spawned. Ah, so that was you? I didn’t know you played in my server! I’ve had someone do that to me but he was bouncing all over the place and from The Stinky Side, trying to explain to him “dude you have a magnet, use it” would have been complicated. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > The default Blizzard UI can be set to show class colors in nameplates. AFAIK all Tidy Plates themes also do this (including Threat Plates, which I use.) > > I think my Wall of the Dead still has a shield spike of some kind on it. Yes and yes to the first paragraph, thank you for the shield _goes in search of that moron_ > [@Taomist](#): > > /loans you a spikey shield _goes in search of the moron with one shield in each hand: here, honey, let me show you why cymbals are considered percussion instruments_ > [@](#): > > Every once in a while, I consider jumping my Paladin, fairly well geared for mid-60’s, into a dungeon, but there is no role I could play… DPS is the best way to jump from soloing to learning the dungeons; say “first time here”, if anybody grouches or can’t be arsed explain they get filed under “M for Moron”, and at those levels who cares what your output is, really. > [@](#): > > ((Pay no attention to the Paladin running down WSG with the flag who suddenly gets all shiny, drops the flag, and keeps running, wondering where the flag went. \>.\< Hey, I made up for it later! BUT OMG that was embarassing. Think it was the first time I’d ever even thought to use Divine Shield, too.)) That’s like saying “OMG, the first time I stood on my own two feet and let go of the nearest piece of furniture and tried to walk, I fell on my ASS! I was SO embarrassed!” In other words, anybody who claims he’s never done his class’s equivalent gets filed under L for “hunter who claims to never have forgotten to turn growl off upon entering a dungeon or on when starting to solo”. > [@Bosstone](#): > > So far as I can tell, the only gnomish settlement is Gnomeregan, so there wouldn’t be ruins or artifacts anywhere else. Their culture has apparently been intertwined with dwarfs for so long that their (very few) artifacts are found in dwarven sites. We do know that both races were linked closely pre-curse-of-death and (based on what’s found in Northrend) it would appear that the curse took longer to reach the mechagnomes than their dwarven counterparts. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8736 "2011-03-30T07:46:52Z")
I can’t believe I forgot to post this earlier! My orc warlock finished up questing in Thousand Needles the other day, and along the way did this quest where she rescued a bunch of baby wind riders. I just had to take a screenshot of her with her adorable little herd: [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna\_1000n\_01.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna_1000n_01.jpg) Anyway, those of you who have quested in that zone know that you’re given an underwater breathing apparatus and some rocket fins to help you swim faster, since so much of the zone is underwater now. Well, apparently those items are shareable, as I discovered when I inadvertently found myself back in the water while still accompanied by my l’il buddies… [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna\_1000n\_02.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna_1000n_02.jpg) D’aaaaaaw! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8737 "2011-03-30T08:29:00Z")
Fishing Tournaments? Do I need anything special to get into one? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8738 "2011-03-30T11:07:50Z")
Second time this has happened to me in about a week: Queue up for my daily random (as a tank so insta-queue) and get Grim Batol. I zone in and apparantly dungeon is already in progress, the leader says “we’re at last boss, other guys didn’t know how to kill adds.” i reply “Sweet”. run to last boss, kill the ugly mofo, collect valor points and go home 🙂 In closing… Many thanks to the last boss of Grim Batol for being an idiot check and giving me the opportunity to get my VP in ~5 mins. Also, a special thanks to said idiots. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8739 "2011-03-30T12:08:42Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I can’t believe I forgot to post this earlier! > > My orc warlock finished up questing in Thousand Needles the other day, and along the way did this quest where she rescued a bunch of baby wind riders. I just had to take a screenshot of her with her adorable little herd: > > [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna\_1000n\_01.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna_1000n_01.jpg) > > Anyway, those of you who have quested in that zone know that you’re given an underwater breathing apparatus and some rocket fins to help you swim faster, since so much of the zone is underwater now. Well, apparently those items are shareable, as I discovered when I inadvertently found myself back in the water while still accompanied by my l’il buddies… > > [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna\_1000n\_02.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/fyrna_1000n_02.jpg) > > D’aaaaaaw! Awwwww…those pics are too precious! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8740 "2011-03-30T12:46:14Z")
> [@Clawdio](#): > > Second time this has happened to me in about a week: > > Queue up for my daily random (as a tank so insta-queue) and get Grim Batol. I zone in and apparantly dungeon is already in progress, the leader says “we’re at last boss, other guys didn’t know how to kill adds.” i reply “Sweet”. run to last boss, kill the ugly mofo, collect valor points and go home 🙂 > > In closing… Many thanks to the last boss of Grim Batol for being an idiot check and giving me the opportunity to get my VP in ~5 mins. Also, a special thanks to said idiots. 😃 That happened to me last week – zoned in to find the group about to pull the final boss of Stonecore. “It’s your lucky day!” one of them told me.😃 ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/8741 "2011-03-30T13:34:19Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Fishing Tournaments? > > Do I need anything special to get into one? > > Thanks > > Q Best if you look them up, try here for the [kaluak fishing derby](http://www.elsanglin.com/kaluak_fishing_derby.html) and here for the [stranglethorn contest](http://www.elsanglin.com/stranglethorn_contest.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=436) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=438)