# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 464
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9262 "2011-05-18T19:46:45Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > If we ever get Wardens as a playable class, will you make a Jailbird? mmmmmmmaaybe. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9263 "2011-05-18T21:30:00Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Itā€™s been that way since shortly after Cata came out. With Cata the amount of gold being thrown around is ridiculous. There are a few quests that are like, ā€œGo listen to that guy talk and Iā€™ll give you 16g.ā€ > > So a lot of people just assumed that everyone was now a millionaire so even the lowest level mats skyrocketed on the auction house. > > Also some mats like Frostweave cloth are either pretty rare on the AH like a total of 18 pieces or a stack goes for 60-80g because hardly anyone is doing Wrath content anymore. I sometimes go farm frostweave for awhile just to sell on the AH to make some quick cash. Crazy Crazy - my level 11 Tauren Priest has in hand more than 30 gold, from a few stacks of light leather, linen cloth, and Peacebloom. Iā€™ve noticed a lack of low-level green cloth armor, though, and what IS there is crazy expensive, compared to what I used to pay. Guess thatā€™s why I made 30 gold off of those matsā€¦ Joe ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9264 "2011-05-18T21:46:54Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Healingbird, and the names keep on coming šŸ˜› > Plus it wouldnā€™t be apt anymore. Another Elf betraying her parents wishesā€¦so sad. Have them set their sights low next timeā€¦ Dirtybird. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9265 "2011-05-19T12:35:11Z")
> [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > Crazy Crazy - my level 11 Tauren Priest has in hand more than 30 gold, from a few stacks of light leather, linen cloth, and Peacebloom. > > Iā€™ve noticed a lack of low-level green cloth armor, though, and what IS there is crazy expensive, compared to what I used to pay. Guess thatā€™s why I made 30 gold off of those matsā€¦ > > Joe You will occasionally see a lot of green cloth armor posted on the AH as someone power levels Tailoring but more often than not the gear will disnechanted to ether sell the mats or they will be used by the tailor (or an alt) to level enchanting. If you take two gathering professions and are sensible about your spending, really no one needs items from the AH while levelling quest rewards are more than adequate, then youā€™ll be able to afford all the flying upgrades as you hit the pertinent level for them. Having 280% flying as you ding 70 is such a quality of life improvement while questing. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9266 "2011-05-19T13:42:21Z")
/cheer! My goblin shammy dinged 80 last night. Thatā€™s my third toon (all healers) to hit that milestone. Time to start collecting some new Cata gear and to decide which zone I want to hit first (leaning toward Hyjal). ---
**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9267 "2011-05-19T14:25:53Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > /cheer! > > My goblin shammy dinged 80 last night. Thatā€™s my third toon (all healers) to hit that milestone. Time to start collecting some new Cata gear and to decide which zone I want to hit first (leaning toward Hyjal). For casters I would definitely say Hyjal, simply so you donā€™t have to go back and back-farm rep to get the arcanum later. The only other consideration Iā€™d give is if your toon is an herbalist, Vash is good for collecting Azsharaā€™s Veil while youā€™re questing. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9268 "2011-05-19T14:45:39Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > For casters I would definitely say Hyjal, simply so you donā€™t have to go back and back-farm rep to get the arcanum later. > > The only other consideration Iā€™d give is if your toon is an herbalist, Vash is good for collecting Azsharaā€™s Veil while youā€™re questing. Good point. Heā€™s actually mining/engineering, although Iā€™m way beyond obsidium now ā€“ Iā€™ve been mining elementium in Uldum since level 76, which was pretty dicey at the time. But the arcanum is good reason to do Hyjal - plus I just liked Hyjal better on my other toons anyway. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9269 "2011-05-19T15:02:43Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > /cheer! > > My goblin shammy dinged 80 last night. Thatā€™s my third toon (all healers) to hit that milestone. Time to start collecting some new Cata gear and to decide which zone I want to hit first (leaning toward Hyjal). Grats! ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9270 "2011-05-19T15:54:16Z")
After 2 weeks, we finally got Alā€™Akir down last night! They say that Phase 1 is the hardest, but we got pretty good at that and kept wiping in Phase 3. In fact, after the win there was only 2 people left alive. I kept dying pretty quickly in P3, but being a squishy mage, thatā€™ll happen. No good drops (no token either ā˜¹ ) RL says weā€™re heading to Nef next and not coming back to Alā€™Akir without good reason. So now Iā€™m 11/12 normal for Cata. Yay! I also just bought the Tier11 Legs, so obviously on my next BH kill, theyā€™ll drop. Two weeks, or maybe 1 if I fulfill my heroics/ZA/ZG for the week Iā€™ll be able to get the hands and the 4-pc set bonus. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9271 "2011-05-19T15:57:16Z")
> [@Headrush042](#): > > For casters I would definitely say Hyjal, simply so you donā€™t have to go back and back-farm rep to get the arcanum later. > > The only other consideration Iā€™d give is if your toon is an herbalist, Vash is good for collecting Azsharaā€™s Veil while youā€™re questing. Well, Hyjal rocks the box for Cinderbloom, and at least on my server that goes for absurd and disconcertingly good prices on the AH, even with market variation taken into consideration. And once youā€™ve finished the Hyjal quest chains past [Aessinaā€™s Miracle](http://www.wowhead.com/quest=25372), most of the hostile mobs vanish (yaaay phasing), leaving most of the flowers unguarded. Iā€™ve actually dropped into an ā€œherbalism tranceā€ on my taurenodrood there and picked more than two full bags full of stacks of cinderbloom and Stormvine in just a couple of hours without even noticing. I had to be careful trickling them onto the AH to avoid collapsing the market. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9272 "2011-05-19T17:22:12Z")
Q: What do you call 3 Hunters all trying to trap at the same time? A: 3 Huntards! Yeah, Iā€™m not sure how that BoT trash run worked so well. I donā€™t think Iā€™m going to be joining any more of those. Just Heroics for me, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9273 "2011-05-19T17:49:54Z")
Last night, a guildie was complaining about tanks and healers that dropped as soon as they zoned in, so I offered to tank H TOT for them given that it was going to be a long wait for her. :eek: As soon as I got in group, a healer pinged. It seems 3 DPS groups get lower shrift in the RDF even if theyā€™re already in the run, and a 4-group gets higher priority. I explained to everyone that Iā€™m new to tanking and please to give me a few seconds for aggro. The other 2 dps were hunters who were just beautiful at huntering, and the holydin helped mark mobs for cc. It was pretty nerve wracking for me, but it went extremely smoothly. I will say, though, having 2 awesome hunters in the group let me get away with being sloppy on parts like the Nazjara fight (got cycloned once). That run made me feel better about pugging as a tank now, although I am still not going in the RDF without a guildie. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9274 "2011-05-19T21:25:53Z")
Didnt mean to post and run, but it seems whenever I post to this place, real life interferes and I donā€™t get back to the boards for a week. In this case, my marriage may not quite be falling apart after all, and as much as I liked the thought of finally being able to play WoW until my eyes bleed, I have to prioritize my family. > [@gnoitall](#): > > Pretty much my impression. Itā€™s quite grindy. That was my impression before, but until I started looking at how many instance runs I would need to do to get all the JPs to gear up, I thought I must have been missing something. Turns out that what I was missing was blizzards desire to keep collecting my 15 bucks a month. > [@kushiel](#): > > It goes way faster with a tabard - you can buy them from each faction quartermaster and wear them in dungeons like in Wrath. > > Right now, your dailies grind should be in Tol Barad, because Baradinā€™s Wardens have totally awesome stuff and they donā€™t have a dungeon rep tabard. No kidding. Thereā€™s a sweet 346 healers mace that I should be able to get with a mere 15 days of dailys there, depending how the PVP part goes. I was nervous about going there since Iā€™m a total carebear, but itā€™s actually been fairly good. As for as rep gear goes, Iā€™m prioritizing the mace since only the weapon slot has spellpower, so an upgrade there seems worth a lot more than any other slot. Did find a nice 346 offhand on the AH cheaper than the enchant I needed for it though, which I thought was nice. Still havenā€™t run a cata dungeon yet, but I hoping to be able to this weekend, time permitting. > [@Enilno](#): > > I havenā€™t used the new guild finder, but the tried and true methods of finding a guild still works. Depending on your server there may be guilds advertising in trade chat or the realm forums. Check sites like [wowprogress.com](http://wowprogress.com) or [guildox.com](http://guildox.com). Go to the guildsā€™ websites, talk to some officers if you think itā€™ll be a good fit. Be patient, finding a good guild doesnā€™t happen over night. Good advice I think. Iā€™m going to wait until the family situation settles out a bit before I go looking for a guild, since I canā€™t really commit to anything right now anyways. Besides, I figure itā€™s better to get some more group experience with total strangers before I go looking for a group that I might want to stay with for a while. > [@Enilno](#): > > Healing can be daunting at first, especially if you are used to how it was at the end of the last expansion. Doing some normals to get used to the new styles of healing is definitely a good idea. Healing heroics at entry level gear can be very hard if your group doesnā€™t work with you. Donā€™t hesitate to ask for CCs, you will need them unless the rest of the group out gears the instance. But know that everything scales very fast with gear. The difference between having 333 level gear and even 346 is very clear, so even if you have some difficulties at first, just hang in there. Itā€™ll get easier. This makes sense, and Iā€™m not planning on queing up for heroics anytime soon. I want to run each instance a few times on regular first, even if the RDF thinks Iā€™m geared enough. One question though, for the healers out there. The first time you run an instance, do you do it as a DPS off-spec, or just jump straight in healing? One piece of advice a friend gave was to try the dungeons as a DPS first, where you have two others who can pick up slack if needed while learning mechanics, instead of healing. Of course, my other friend disagreed with him, saying that learning how to dps whill only slow down learning to heal, and learning the boss mechanics as a dps wonā€™t help. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9275 "2011-05-19T21:29:21Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > And the instance utility of a priest canā€™t be underestimated. ā€¦ thereā€™s magic dispelling, which can be life-saver (and for some fight, almost necessary). Iā€™m pretty sure they dropped that in either 4.1 or 4.06, now only healing speced priests can dispel. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9276 "2011-05-19T21:39:26Z")
> [@Mithrander](#): > > Iā€™m pretty sure they dropped that in either 4.1 or 4.06, now only healing speced priests can dispel. Mass Dispel is still around though for all priests, right? I feel like I see Shadow Priests firing it off all the damn time in BGs, even after 4.1. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9277 "2011-05-19T21:46:20Z")
All priests can mass dispel and offensive dispel. Shadow canā€™t defensive dispel other people. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9278 "2011-05-19T22:07:31Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > All priests can mass dispel and offensive dispel. Shadow canā€™t defensive dispel other people. Well, as long as mass dispel can be used defensively (team cleanse), it might be worth the mana cost and cast time, although youā€™d hope the ā€œofficial healerā€ would have to wherewithal to cleanse like youā€™d expect them to. (I havenā€™t studied healing in a while, let alone the recent changes, butā€¦ am I right in understanding you have to talent into cleansing spells, and some raid-type healers donā€™t? Seems quite counterintuitive to me.) ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9279 "2011-05-20T01:14:39Z")
[QUOTE=FlightlessBird] After 2 weeks, we finally got Alā€™Akir down last night! They say that Phase 1 is the hardest, but we got pretty good at that and kept wiping in Phase 3. In fact, after the win there was only 2 people left alive. I kept dying pretty quickly in P3, but being a squishy mage, thatā€™ll happen. No good drops (no token either ) RL says weā€™re heading to Nef next and not coming back to Alā€™Akir without good reason. So now Iā€™m 11/12 normal for Cata. Yay! [/QUOTE] Grats on Alā€™Akir. I hate that fight and Iā€™m glad we arenā€™t going back to it anytime soon. Phase 2 is just a terror as a healer. Going after our first two heroic bosses tonight, Chimaeron and possibly Atrameded, Chimaeron for sure though. Iā€™m a little nervous since Iā€™m a healer and this is pretty much a healer fight. Crossing my fingers for a clean kill and for the mail bracers to drop (which they wonā€™t because thatā€™s how much RNG hates me). Managed to snag Sambas today. I had been out looking for him for about a month on my hunter and decided to fly around Twilight Highlands to mine a bit. NPC Scan had already logged him as found so I had to whip up a quick, flew over his first spawn point and BAM there he was. He was the last pet I really wanted to tame so Iā€™m pretty happy right now. I still have two open stable slots and I have to fill them with somethingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Enilno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@Enilno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enilno)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9280 "2011-05-20T15:17:55Z")
> [@Mithrander](#): > > One question though, for the healers out there. The first time you run an instance, do you do it as a DPS off-spec, or just jump straight in healing? One piece of advice a friend gave was to try the dungeons as a DPS first, where you have two others who can pick up slack if needed while learning mechanics, instead of healing. Of course, my other friend disagreed with him, saying that learning how to dps whill only slow down learning to heal, and learning the boss mechanics as a dps wonā€™t help. Any thoughts? Iā€™d say itā€™s largely a matter of preference. Normal dungeons are tuned to be pretty forgiving. You should not have too much trouble learning the dungeon and how to heal at the same time. The Cata dungeons arenā€™t really more complex than Wrath ones, just somewhat more unforgiving. That said, doing decent dps in leveling gear is easier than healing in it. Mana efficiency and regen can be painful with subpar gear. If you run oom 2 minutes into a 3 minute fight, itā€™ll have a much bigger effect on the group than doing 8k vs 12k dps. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9281 "2011-05-20T17:51:30Z")
> [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > Managed to snag Sambas today. I had been out looking for him for about a month on my hunter and decided to fly around Twilight Highlands to mine a bit. NPC Scan had already logged him as found so I had to whip up a quick, flew over his first spawn point and BAM there he was. He was the last pet I really wanted to tame so Iā€™m pretty happy right now. I still have two open stable slots and I have to fill them with somethingā€¦ Grats! Thatā€™s one amazing looking lion. I keep a pet slot open at all times in case I encounter something like that. (I generally donā€™t camp for pets though. No patience with just waiting, and with my luck the likelihood the animal will be ninjad or Iā€™ll be ganked would be directly proportional to how long Iā€™ve been camping it.) Anyway, Iā€™ve contented myself for now with [Pogeyan](http://www.wow-petopia.com/look/tigergemskinbrown.html), whom I stumbled over in North Stranglethorn while screwing around for one reason or another. Thank God for NPCSCAN. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=463) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=465)