# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9842 "2011-07-21T20:00:49Z")

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That’s bothersome … if I level the camera, I can’t see if my bobber landed in the pool or not ☹

Q\_Q

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9843 "2011-07-21T20:23:29Z")

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**gno** , that’s something different. This is a separate bug; I’ve had it happen with my DK’s Path of Frost. If it were a camera angle issue, you’d still be able to jump back up out of the water again; with this bug, you can’t.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9844 "2011-07-21T23:00:27Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> **gno** , that’s something different. This is a separate bug; I’ve had it happen with my DK’s Path of Frost. If it were a camera angle issue, you’d still be able to jump back up out of the water again; with this bug, you can’t.

Wow. Even by WoW standards, that’s pretty borked.

That said, I have run into situations where it took several attempts to get above the surface of the water and have the water walk “take”, but it sounds like you’re describing a situation where either (A) the buff isn’t there, or (B) the buff is hypothetically present (still on the buff bar) but isn’t actually doing a damn thing.

The latter might drive me to ragequit if it happened when I really really really wanted to stay above water. Like, I ride out expecting to cross the water to the sunken boat where Captain Harris is, and I know I can avoid Tank the Shark if I can keep moving at +100%, but I’m boned when I get into the water and that damn shark eats me because I get into aggro radius because I’M SLOW.

Yeah. :mad: Tantrum time if that’s what happens. And I guess that’s what happened to Q. That sucks.

“Blizzard quality software.” :smack:

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9845 "2011-07-22T00:04:02Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> I didn’t see any mention of this but might have overlooked it - **Quasi** ’s story got extra publicity by being featured on episode #236 (“When Thrall Leaves His Tiny Tower”) of the WOW podcast The Instance. Scott Johnson mentioned the article as being interesting and inspiring, and they spent a few minutes talking about it! It starts around the 1:31:30ish mark in the show. He also mentioned that his wife’s family has had a number of people who have suffered from Alzheimer’s, and wishes **Quasi** well.

Found the [link to the episode notes](http://theinstance.net/2011/07/236-the-instance-when-thrall-leaves-his-tiny-tower/) and it features a big paragraph on the interview - it’s their “Drop of the Week” item!

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9846 "2011-07-22T02:33:01Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> The [Loot-a-rang](http://www.wowhead.com/item=60854#comments) originally looted multiple corpses as a time, but soon after (before?) Cata launch it was nerfed so that you have to target one corpse at a time. And it has a 10-second cooldown, so it’s really only good to loot dead mobs that are out of reach.

I was joking with some folks the week Cata came out about how silly the loot-a-rang was, but I carried it anyway, as I’m an engineering completest.  
We were in Stonecore, and… The final boss could still bug and die, falling into the lava where you couldn’t loot her.

Guess what? Loot-a-rang saved the day! My guild does -not- let me forget that. Engineering rocks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9847 "2011-07-22T15:00:52Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> That said, I have run into situations where it took several attempts to get above the surface of the water and have the water walk “take”, but it sounds like you’re describing a situation where either (A) the buff isn’t there, or (B) the buff is hypothetically present (still on the buff bar) but isn’t actually doing a damn thing.

Yeah, I’d be on my DK, under water to harvest a resource node, and then I’d try to jump back on top of the water so I could mount up and fly off. No dice, so I’d have to swim to the shore and mount back on land. (Or pull my actual mount tab up and manually mount my flyer.) Obnoxious.

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> Like, I ride out expecting to cross the water to the sunken boat where Captain Harris is, and I know I can avoid Tank the Shark if I can keep moving at +100%,

Y’all need to get yourself a turtle. 😃 I don’t have a problem staying away from Tank. In fact, amusingly enough, I actually have problems chasing him down when he’s the daily. We should trade!

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9848 "2011-07-22T21:45:29Z")

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Thank You!

While I was pleased with my killing ability before, it’s really stunning now. I’ve pretty much been doing this:

> [@Skammer](#):
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> So my rotation looks something like VT-\>DP-\>(SWP)-\>MF until I have an Orb-\>MB

and am blowing through enemies. My mana problem is mostly fixed, but not 100%. I forgot to rearrange my glyphs, so we’ll see what happens then.

I just dinged 60. Is it generally assumed that one should make Shattrath City their home at this point? I assume it has everything - all the triners, fishing and cooking dailies, AH, etc?

Joe

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9849 "2011-07-22T21:52:53Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> I just dinged 60. Is it generally assumed that one should make Shattrath City their home at this point? I assume it has everything - all the triners, fishing and cooking dailies, AH, etc?

Recommend against. When Shattrath had portals back to Azeroth, it was a no-brainer. But now it’s _much_ easier to get into Outland from a capital city than it is to get to a capital city from Outland, primarily because of the portals to the Dark Portal in each city. Keep your home in whichever capital city you’re using, just in case you need quick transportation back.

Since you can fly in Outland from the get-go, and flying is much cheaper these days, travel in Outland isn’t anywhere near as troublesome as it used to be. Likewise, you’re going to FLY through levels 60-68, and then you’ll be moving on to Northrend. Shattrath would be a temporary home at best. I’d recommend you keep your hearth at a capital city, but use the amenities in Shat and log out there.

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9850 "2011-07-22T22:18:13Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> I just dinged 60. Is it generally assumed that one should make Shattrath City their home at this point? I assume it has everything - all the triners, fishing and cooking dailies, AH, etc?

Shattrath does have it’s own cooking and fishing dailies, but like the Dalaran ones, they don’t share between the capitals. You can do the Shattrath Cooking & Fishing AND still do a cooking and fishing in a capital city, too, and I would recommend it because it’s easy XP and can net you some cool stuff (like baby crocolisk pets!).

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9851 "2011-07-22T22:41:55Z")

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Do I need WOTLK to get past 375 in professions?

Is there an easier way to get to outland from Thunder Bluff than going through Orgrimmar? I have a terrible time staying online flying into Orgrimmar - I get disconnected constantly. Do I HAVE to go through the portal in the Cleft of Shadow?

Joe

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**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9852 "2011-07-22T22:48:46Z")

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There’s a portal in the cave on the Spirit Rise. There’s one in every capital, actually (Mage Quarter in UC and in the mage side-room of the palace in SMC).

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9853 "2011-07-22T22:50:57Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> Do I need WOTLK to get past 375 in professions?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> Is there an easier way to get to outland from Thunder Bluff than going through Orgrimmar? I have a terrible time staying online flying into Orgrimmar - I get disconnected constantly. Do I HAVE to go through the portal in the Cleft of Shadow?

Go to the Spirit Rise. There is a path leading down to a cave. Last I saw it was full of Forsaken, but that may have changed. In any case, there’s a portal to the Dark Portal there.

Every capital city has a Mage trainer, even if the primary race can’t access Mage, and next to that trainer is a Dark Portal portal.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9854 "2011-07-23T02:31:58Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Recommend against. When Shattrath had portals back to Azeroth, it was a no-brainer. But now it’s _much_ easier to get into Outland from a capital city than it is to get to a capital city from Outland, primarily because of the portals to the Dark Portal in each city. Keep your home in whichever capital city you’re using, just in case you need quick transportation back.
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> Since you can fly in Outland from the get-go, and flying is much cheaper these days, travel in Outland isn’t anywhere near as troublesome as it used to be. Likewise, you’re going to FLY through levels 60-68, and then you’ll be moving on to Northrend. Shattrath would be a temporary home at best. I’d recommend you keep your hearth at a capital city, but use the amenities in Shat and log out there.

Did Shatt get its portals back like Dalaran did?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9855 "2011-07-23T03:14:04Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> Did Shatt get its portals back like Dalaran did?

Dal got its portals back?

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9856 "2011-07-23T03:17:36Z")

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I believe Dalaran got portals back to only Stormwind or Orgrimmar, and my husband just told me Shattrath got portals back to both those cities as well.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9857 "2011-07-23T03:45:02Z")

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> [@FaerieBeth](#):
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> I believe Dalaran got portals back to only Stormwind or Orgrimmar, and my husband just told me Shattrath got portals back to both those cities as well.

Well then. Hearth away.

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**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9858 "2011-07-23T08:18:19Z")

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Yeah they put portals to SW and Org back in Dalaran and Shat to make it easier for levelling toons to use them as hubs. I moved my hearth back to Dal for a bit but it just wasn’t worth it. The only thing I would do there was the Cooking daily in order to get more Baby Spice.

There is access to the AH in Dalaran now too. If you have a bank alt in a high level guild then it makes sense to park them there. You can pick up extra gold by using your mass summon to port people to Dal.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9859 "2011-07-23T15:26:29Z")

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> [@2sense](#):
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> Yeah they put portals to SW and Org back in Dalaran and Shat to make it easier for levelling toons to use them as hubs. I moved my hearth back to Dal for a bit but it just wasn’t worth it. The only thing I would do there was the Cooking daily in order to get more Baby Spice.
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> There is access to the AH in Dalaran now too. If you have a bank alt in a high level guild then it makes sense to park them there. You can pick up extra gold by using your mass summon to port people to Dal.

The guards in Shattrath did not have a menu option to find the AH. Is there none?

Joe

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9860 "2011-07-23T16:00:59Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> The guards in Shattrath did not have a menu option to find the AH. Is there none?

I know there is an auction house in the Scryer’s bank, so I would assume the Aldor bank has an auction house, as well. They added them, along with class trainers, when they took all the major city portals out.

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**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9861 "2011-07-23T19:28:50Z")

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Yeah the AH in Shat is in the banks. In Dalaran you find them by the gear vendors.

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