# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 497
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9922 "2011-07-27T20:34:13Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > My Alliance DK tank is now in Northrend. Somehow he managed to get through all of Outland with the starter DK pants. šŸ˜• Lemmetellya, good thing the Dance Studio wasnā€™t implemented because a giant undead male draenei ecstatically dancing around waving his new pants would have been interesting. This was a great deal more :eek: until I remembered DKs donā€™t start at level 1. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9923 "2011-07-28T03:17:03Z")
[I think my Skada is screwed up.](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5983561486_cc9d246680.jpg) Look at my (Corialis) DPS and then damage done compared to everyone elseā€™s. It levelled off a bit further into the dungeon, with me being around 7k and other people around 9k. I was using Recount, but after 4.2 it gobbed up and made my machine lag until it was unusable so I had to go to Skada. * * * Also, another question. Iā€™m having trouble with my threat management, even though I spam Misdirection on the tank. I just generate threat like a mofo (mm hunter). I understand how this comes up with AoE attacks, but with single targets like bosses it gets annoying really fast. Iā€™ll use Misdirection on the tank, stop using my super duper specials and lean on my focus regenerating attack and I still grab aggro. * * * For durp of the month award, I present this: Heroic Shadowfang Keep, Foe Reaper. After a couple wipes, healer says his gear isnā€™t working and drops group. Confuzzled, I check his gear. Heā€™s decked out in full season 10 PvP. Guh. So new healer comes inā€¦and immediately hops into the Reaper and runs down the ramp and aggros the boss. Needless to say, I decided it was time to call it quits. ---
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9924 "2011-07-28T06:41:15Z")
Okay, new here. Been playing WoW since Mar 4, 2006. I have equal number of H & A, pretty much. Two 85ā€™s, 10 others over 80. Do you guys play on the same realm? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9925 "2011-07-28T07:25:41Z")
Guys, One of the commenters (commentars?) in that WoW 15 min of fame article said that since I already had explored 58% of the world, that I should take **Silka** and fly over the rest of it and get the Explorer achievement, so I can get the name ā€œExplorerā€ as part of my title. So okay, I would like to do that and I found an add-on on Curse that is supposed to simplify doing this, but Iā€™m not sure how to use it. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks Q # ================================================================== **BDBoop** , the WoW guild ā€œBurning Dog Legionā€ is with the Horde and they play on the Cairne server together. Theyā€™ll be glad to have you, and someone will be in touch pretty soon to get you invited, if you want to join. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9926 "2011-07-28T07:32:38Z")
Whatā€™s the name of the addon? Joe ---
**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9927 "2011-07-28T07:34:00Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Also, another question. Iā€™m having trouble with my threat management, even though I spam Misdirection on the tank. I just generate threat like a mofo (mm hunter). I understand how this comes up with AoE attacks, but with single targets like bosses it gets annoying really fast. Iā€™ll use Misdirection on the tank, stop using my super duper specials and lean on my focus regenerating attack and I still grab aggro. Seems like either you outgear the tank by quite a bit or there is a tanking issue. They changed MD in Cata so that the threat you transfer doesnā€™t stay with the tank but it doesnā€™t come back to you. If they get a lead at the pull and build up Vengance they shouldnā€™t have trouble holding threat over you. (Though Iā€™m still in regular raids. Things might be different out at the edge of progression.) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9928 "2011-07-28T07:55:53Z")
> [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > Whatā€™s the name of the addon? > > Joe :smack::smack::smack: Sorry **Joe**. It is called ā€œExplorer Coordsā€. It sounds like Iā€™m supposed to see them maybe in a different color on the map, but I donā€™t. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9929 "2011-07-28T08:10:12Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yeah, unfortunately thereā€™s a cap on the number of people you can ignoreā€“a very small one, given the size of the game. I know there are addons that will effectively expand that list, but I canā€™t search for them from work. Can anyone else help? [Ignore More on Curse](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ignore-more.aspx) > [@kushiel](#): > > Also, another question. Iā€™m having trouble with my threat management, even though I spam Misdirection on the tank. I just generate threat like a mofo (mm hunter). I understand how this comes up with AoE attacks, but with single targets like bosses it gets annoying really fast. Iā€™ll use Misdirection on the tank, stop using my super duper specials and lean on my focus regenerating attack and I still grab aggro. > [@2sense](#): > > Seems like either you outgear the tank by quite a bit or there is a tanking issue. They changed MD in Cata so that the threat you transfer doesnā€™t stay with the tank but it doesnā€™t come back to you. If they get a lead at the pull and build up Vengance they shouldnā€™t have trouble holding threat over you. (Though Iā€™m still in regular raids. Things might be different out at the edge of progression.) To expand a bit on what **2sense** I would suggest just one thing - wait before you start your pew pew. I know it can feel a bit crap just sitting there doing nothing but if you give the tank some time to build up vengeance youā€™ll find it very hard to get aggro off her. Send your pet in and dance for a bit then unleash everything youā€™ve got. > [@BDBoop](#): > > Okay, new here. Been playing WoW since Mar 4, 2006. I have equal number of H & A, pretty much. Two 85ā€™s, 10 others over 80. > > Do you guys play on the same realm? As **Q** says a lot of the people here play in the Doper guild on Cairne US but a lot of us donā€™t, what server are you on? So I wrote a page or so back about how being in an active guild was making me happy? I knew I shouldnā€™t have mentioned anything, in the space of 4 days weā€™ve had guild drama over the guild bank which led to two of the founders leaving and this has started a constant trickle of /gquits. Including all the geared tanks and 2 thirds of my arena team. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9930 "2011-07-28T08:14:41Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > :smack::smack::smack: > > Sorry **Joe**. It is called ā€œExplorer Coordsā€. It sounds like Iā€™m supposed to see them maybe in a different color on the map, but I donā€™t. > > Thanks > > Q Take a look at the picture here: [Explorer Coords](http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/16020/10876/explorercoords_screen.jpg) you see those blue\white circles on the map? Just fly to each of those in turn and you will get the Achievement for exploring that zone. So take a look at your achievement list and notice which zones you donā€™t have the explored achievement for. Fly to it, open your map, fly to each circle wait for the ding, then off to the next zone. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9931 "2011-07-28T09:52:42Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Take a look at the picture here: [Explorer Coords](http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/16020/10876/explorercoords_screen.jpg) you see those blue\white circles on the map? Just fly to each of those in turn and you will get the Achievement for exploring that zone. > > So take a look at your achievement list and notice which zones you donā€™t have the explored achievement for. Fly to it, open your map, fly to each circle wait for the ding, then off to the next zone. **martu** , Thank you, my friend! Iā€™ll knock those out later this afternoon.šŸ™‚ Quasi ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9932 "2011-07-28T14:02:40Z")
> [@BDBoop](#): > > Okay, new here. Been playing WoW since Mar 4, 2006. I have equal number of H & A, pretty much. Two 85ā€™s, 10 others over 80. > > Do you guys play on the same realm? I have some characters on Cairne (and one in the SDMB guild), but my mains are all on Zangarmarsh. I have a few I play sporadically on Shadow Council, as well. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9933 "2011-07-28T15:15:08Z")
> [@martu](#): > > To expand a bit on what **2sense** I would suggest just one thing - wait before you start your pew pew. I know it can feel a bit crap just sitting there doing nothing but if you give the tank some time to build up vengeance youā€™ll find it very hard to get aggro off her. Send your pet in and dance for a bit then unleash everything youā€™ve got. This is kinda what Iā€™m thinking, just because it happens all the time with a lot of different tanks. I should probably also let auto-shot go for a couple of seconds at the start too. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9934 "2011-07-28T15:21:55Z")
> [@martu](#): > > So I wrote a page or so back about how being in an active guild was making me happy? I knew I shouldnā€™t have mentioned anything, in the space of 4 days weā€™ve had guild drama over the guild bank which led to two of the founders leaving and this has started a constant trickle of /gquits. Including all the geared tanks and 2 thirds of my arena team. :mad: Oh no! That sucks. My new guild is surviving a few retirements by adding new players. Plus they opened up recruitment for PvP players. Itā€™s nice to come on and see \>15 players on. I hope to learn a bit more about PvP, but they will require I go frost, and I need to be Arcane/Fire for Firelands. **I go fire for Alysrazor which we finally got down last night!** Woot! Apparently it helps if I donā€™t die. The kill brought our guild to Top 3 Horde on Cairne. Weā€™re going after Staghelm tonight and after one wipe last night, it looks SO much easier than Alysrazor! ---
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9935 "2011-07-28T15:33:13Z")
> [@martu](#): > > As **Q** says a lot of the people here play in the Doper guild on Cairne US but a lot of us donā€™t, what server are you on? > So I wrote a page or so back about how being in an active guild was making me happy? I knew I shouldnā€™t have mentioned anything, in the space of 4 days weā€™ve had guild drama over the guild bank which led to two of the founders leaving and this has started a constant trickle of /gquits. Including all the geared tanks and 2 thirds of my arena team. :mad: Thatā€™s horrible. ā˜¹ Iā€™m on Quelā€™dorei, both H&A, Galakrond for Horde and Silvermoon for Alliance. Moved several toons there because Iā€™m in a lvl 25 guild. I also have my own guild for storage. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9936 "2011-07-28T15:57:11Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Isnā€™t there some way to unignore people? Yes, you can remove people from your ignore list. However, thereā€™s no way to tell when you added them or why, so it can be hard to figure out which to remove and which to keep. > [@kushiel](#): > > [I think my Skada is screwed up.](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5983561486_cc9d246680.jpg) Look at my (Corialis) DPS and then damage done compared to everyone elseā€™s. Thatā€™sā€¦ really weird. Your DPS is low, but your total damage is really high. My only thought is if you maybe forgot to reset the addon before or after the run, so that itā€™s including data from when you were solo-questing. If thatā€™s not it, Iā€™d try deleting and re-installing the addon. Wipe all your settings for it, too, if you can. > [@](#): > > Iā€™m having trouble with my threat management, even though I spam Misdirection on the tank. 1.) As mentioned, MD no longer permanently transfers threat. Itā€™s a temporary boost to the target, after which point the transferred threat _returns to you_. If the tank hasnā€™t made up the difference in the mean time, itā€™s entirely possible that the mob theyā€™re tanking will just snap over to you. 2.) Hunters are like threat machines, which is why you have Feign Death. The appropriate time to use it is just \*before \*you pull aggro, not just after. You should have a threat meter (either use the one in Skada or have a standalone like Omen) and pay careful attention to it. (You should have alerts set up for thresholds where youā€™re getting to close to pulling.) If youā€™re in melee range, youā€™ll pull once you hit 110% of the tankā€™s threat; if youā€™re at range like you should be most of the time, youā€™ll pull at 130%. 3.) Itā€™s entirely possible youā€™re also playing with shitty tanks. > [@BDBoop](#): > > Do you guys play on the same realm? \ is the official SDMB guild, Horde-side on Cairne. A lot of us have alts there; a few also have mains or other 85s. Iā€™ve been taking a bit of a break from playing regularly, but at the moment my main is on Stormscale Horde, and I have other alts, with the ones I play most on Area 52 Alliance and Horde, Eldreā€™Thalas Horde and Alliance, Borean Tundra Alliance, and Stormrage Alliance. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > **I go fire for Alysrazor which we finally got down last night!** [ā€¦] The kill brought our guild to Top 3 Horde on Cairne. Congrats! ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9937 "2011-07-28T16:10:54Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > **I go fire for Alysrazor which we finally got down last night!** Woot! Apparently it helps if I donā€™t die. The kill brought our guild to Top 3 Horde on Cairne. Weā€™re going after Staghelm tonight and after one wipe last night, it looks SO much easier than Alysrazor! Grats, Bird. Iā€™ve heard Staghelm is actually pretty damn easy on 10, so you should be 6/7 in no time. Weā€™ve had major issues with folks not showing up, or being busy - summertime, ya know. Weā€™re hitting Alys tonight, so hopefully we can keep up our one-boss-a-week pace. Iā€™d really like to kill Ragnaros before taking a bit of a break from raiding later this summer/fall. ---
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9938 "2011-07-28T16:18:32Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **\ is the official SDMB guild, Horde-side on Cairne**. A lot of us have alts there; a few also have mains or other 85s. Iā€™ve been taking a bit of a break from playing regularly, but at the moment my main is on Stormscale Horde, and I have other alts, with the ones I play most on Area 52 Alliance and Horde, Eldreā€™Thalas Horde and Alliance, Borean Tundra Alliance, and Stormrage Alliance. Iā€™ll see how it goes; maybe Iā€™ll move one of my hordies over there. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9939 "2011-07-28T16:44:12Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Oh no! That sucks. My new guild is surviving a few retirements by adding new players. Plus they opened up recruitment for PvP players. Itā€™s nice to come on and see \>15 players on. I hope to learn a bit more about PvP, but they will require I go frost, and I need to be Arcane/Fire for Firelands. **I go fire for Alysrazor which we finally got down last night!** Woot! Apparently it helps if I donā€™t die. The kill brought our guild to Top 3 Horde on Cairne. Weā€™re going after Staghelm tonight and after one wipe last night, it looks SO much easier than Alysrazor! I think I have to accept that raiding in wow is just not going to happen, 3 different guilds in just over a year all with problems. Tonight Iā€™m going to start a new alt to get my mind off it all, I have yet to experience the new EPL and WPL zones which are the only revamped zones I am yet to try. Grats on Top 3 and good luck tonight. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9940 "2011-07-28T16:48:02Z")
Thanks. Though it did bring up a question I had: As one of the ā€˜flyersā€™ for Alysrazor and with me playing on Low-graphics settings. Youā€™d think itā€™d be harder to collect the rings, but I think Wow/Blizz makes up for that by letting me hit the gates with much less accuracy than someone playing at high-graphics settings. I seem to remember something similar in Wrath but canā€™t put my finger on it. Anyone else notice these kinds of things? After watching videos online, I see what othersā€™ must be seeing and Damn! I need a new computer! ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/9941 "2011-07-28T17:29:54Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Grats, Bird. Iā€™ve heard Staghelm is actually pretty damn easy on 10, so you should be 6/7 in no time. Congratulations! Yeah, Staghelm is a walk in the park compared to Alys. And then you get to beat your head on Ragnaros! (We got him to 40% last night, after a couple of hours of attempts. But Iā€™m not looking forward to phase 3 with the meteors. :P) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=496) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=498)