# New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480 "2010-06-09T00:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 517
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10322 "2011-09-20T18:45:25Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Seriously, do yourself a favor and go read the full text descriptions of the new instances. They sound pretty fucking awesome. And the best part? > > They could end up completely removing the Knaak changes from the timeline. šŸ˜ƒ I was kind of wondering if Blizzard would use the following from the new Christie Golden stuff. You killed Krasus, you bastards! But yes, I am pleased that it looks like a certain threesome will have no bearing on these instances. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10323 "2011-09-20T19:09:14Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > **Quasi-** -You may be talking about the remote thingā€¦basically it summons a drill that will teleport you to the dungeon where the boss spawns. I think that probably still works, but you donā€™t really need it, as the dungeon finder will have an option for Corbin Direbrew. > > If you arenā€™t used to tanking, you can still queue for this as DPS. Itā€™s a short, one fight dungeon, against an easy boss. The first time you do it each day you get a kegā€™oā€™loot (forget exactly what they call it) that will always award some Justice Points. Thatā€™s where the mount will be if you are lucky enough to get oneā€“either a ram or a kodo. Might also get a dagger or a BOE mace. The boss himself drops a trinket that may be an upgrade for yaā€“or otherwise neat to have. Actually, itā€™s that beer mug you throw at a guy, IIRC. About those trinkets, though: I have two of those on my acttion bars. Are those an automatic part of my weaponry or do I have to press them as I do everything else on the bars? Iā€™ve tried clicking on them, but havenā€™t noticed any kind of difference in combat. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10324 "2011-09-20T19:13:30Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > About those trinkets, though: I have two of those on my acttion bars. Are those an automatic part of my weaponry or do I have to press them as I do everything else on the bars? Iā€™ve tried clicking on them, but havenā€™t noticed any kind of difference in combat. If you mouse over them on your action bar, there should be a tooltip to tell you what they do. If it has something like ā€œUse: Increases X by 156ā€ or something like that, it means you have to click them to activate it, and it usually only lasts a little while. If it just says ā€œIncreases X by 156ā€, then itā€™s an always-on and you donā€™t have to click or anything. Remember that if you get confused about what anything in your equipment or on your bars does, just mouse over it and you should get a tooltip to tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10325 "2011-09-20T19:15:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Weā€™ve discussed this before, but how long have the WoW toons looked like that? The races that were live at vanilla have never been updated or changed. So thatā€™s Humans, Night Elves, Dwarves, and Gnomes for Alliance and Orcs, Undead, Trolls, and Tauren for Horde. People have been complaining about the harelip on Human males pretty much since launch, and some races arguably have it even worseā€“e.g., thereā€™s a female Troll hairstyle that never even got finished. All of the artists they use for everything are internal peopleā€“from vanilla up through Cata. The main problem with the older models is that theyā€™re just not as complex as the newer ones, their skins arenā€™t as high-resolution, etc. Theyā€™ve wanted to update them for a while now, but people get very attached to their characters, and a change that some people welcome could cause a massive outcry from others. > [@Skammer](#): > > My poor priest has been doing Brewfest every year since Cairne launched - 3, 4 years? - and never a mount. And thatā€™s my mount-collecting toon. I only have the ram on Sleutel because I unlocked the vendor the first year, when the mounts came from tickets instead of the boss. (At the time, I could only buy the slow mount, but I bought the fast one the next year. In fact, unlocking the vendor the first year is the only way you can get the slow mount: itā€™s not obtainable anymore.) The kodo refused to ever drop for me. > [@](#): > > Speaking of mount collecting, Iā€™ve been running MgT on my priest to try for at least the pheonix pet if not the mount. No luck so far Silly question, but did you check to make sure youā€™re running on Heroic? The mount only drops there. > [@jayjay](#): > > Iā€™ll have that damn music pounding in my head for weeksā€¦the worst decision Blizzard ever made was not having the Brewfest music fade out as you moved away from the festival siteā€¦ Ctrl+M. Youā€™re welcome. > [@jayjay](#): > > Direbrew doesnā€™t drop the mounts. They come in the ā€œTreasure Kegsā€ that you get for using the RDF for the holiday fight. Iā€™m pretty sure theyā€™re BOP, and you canā€™t trade them because you have to pick them up to get them out of the keg. This is correct. There is no way to trade the mounts. Which sucks, because in the first couple of years, you could run with friends who already had the mount you wanted to increase your own chance of getting it. (You could also keep running as many times as you wanted, assuming you could find a group willing to take someone without a summon.) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10326 "2011-09-20T19:49:25Z")
For those raiding Firelands (and especially anybody who has struggled with the raid), the nerfs are in today, and theyā€™re biggies: Normal mode: - Shannox, Rhyolith, Bethā€™tilac nerfed 15% in damage and health - All other normal-mode bosses nerfed 25%. Heroic mode: - All heroic bosses except Ragnaros nerfed 15% in damage and health - Ragnaros has not been nerfed, but his trash and adds have. Should be seeing a lot more groups clearing FL now, thatā€™s for sure. Personally I think itā€™s too much too soon, but that seems to be the new way. And itā€™s definitely a good thing for casual guilds/groups who want to see the content. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10327 "2011-09-20T19:49:48Z")
Man, that reminds me I gotta get on the Kodo train again. All I got is the stupid olā€™ Ram. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10328 "2011-09-20T19:53:54Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Silly question, but did you check to make sure youā€™re running on Heroic? The mount only drops there. Iā€™m not a _complete_ idiot. šŸ˜‰ Itā€™s a trivial run for an 85; I can run right past most trash packs and the ones I canā€™t, go down with a Mind Sear or two. According to Wowhead the pet drops about 10% of the time so Iā€™m hoping not to have to run too many more times for it. The mount is a lot rarer, though, and I guess that because itā€™s a heroic you can only run it once a day and not manually reset it like you can for non-heroics. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10329 "2011-09-20T20:49:37Z")
Itā€™s my turn to laugh! Last year was my first Brewfest ever, and I got the Kodo! Brewmaster was also my first title. šŸ˜ƒ Letā€™s go Ram, letā€™s go! Woo woo! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10330 "2011-09-20T21:02:48Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Iā€™m not a _complete_ idiot. šŸ˜‰ So, yer sayinā€™, you canā€™t even get being an idiot right. Tut, tut. šŸ˜› > [@](#): > > Itā€™s a trivial run for an 85; I can run right past most trash packs and the ones I canā€™t, go down with a Mind Sear or two. According to Wowhead the pet drops about 10% of the time so Iā€™m hoping not to have to run too many more times for it. The mount is a lot rarer, though, and I guess that because itā€™s a heroic you can only run it once a day and not manually reset it like you can for non-heroics. I remember farming that extensively back in WotLK when my hunter was raiding and almost well-geared. I had a beastmaster build that made my bear tank almost indestructible, even if I had to fight a lot of the trash to get to Kaelā€™. Anyway, I had a lot of runs in, because there are several things in Kaelā€™s loot table I wanted (being an engineer/leatherworker and a bit of a recipe completionist, for instance). I think I got one leatherworking pattern to drop the entire time; no schematics; and no pets or mounts. So I have mildly bitter memories of farming that, and I hope you arenā€™t pinning your hopes too high against farming a reported 10% drop rate. But maybe my luck was just extraordinarily bad in that respect. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10331 "2011-09-20T21:10:18Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > According to Wowhead the pet drops about 10% of the time so Iā€™m hoping not to have to run too many more times for it. The mount is a lot rarer, though, and I guess that because itā€™s a heroic you can only run it once a day and not manually reset it like you can for non-heroics. I farmed up both the pet and the mount myself in Wrath, so I know what a pain it is. ISTR that the pet droprate was listed at 15% at that point, but I remember it taking forever (since, after all, 15% is only the average). I think the mount is the typical 1% drop rate. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10332 "2011-09-21T05:37:04Z")
And I got the Kodo on my very first Direbrew run this year. Hooray! ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10333 "2011-09-21T09:58:30Z")
No internet connection (just moved house) just after dinging 85 on my rogue, especially bad timing when the holiday boss drops a sweet MH dagger that would be quite an upgrade. Damn you previous house owners who couldnā€™t cancel their broadband sub in a timely fashion, damn you to hell! Though saying that should have it up and running by the weekend so that broken bottle will be mine, oh yes. Iā€™m having more fun that a priest in a playground PvPing on the rogue at max level, stray wanderers in TB are slaughtered endlesslyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10334 "2011-09-21T12:10:31Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > And I got the Kodo on my very first Direbrew run this year. Hooray! Gratz! ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Shin\_Kell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Kell)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10335 "2011-09-21T13:11:44Z")
[QUOTE=Infovore] For those raiding Firelands (and especially anybody who has struggled with the raid), the nerfs are in today, and theyā€™re biggies: [/QUOTE] They pulled out the Empire State Building sized nerf bat for Firelands. We cleared everything up to Domo easily even though we were being silly and got a few people killed on the way. The only reason we didnā€™t kill Domo is because people were falling asleep by that point and we still got him to 8%. I think one of our best kills was a full minute ahead of the previous. Had our offtank get trapped and die while tanking Riplimb, no problem just heal the mage who was now tanking and still kill the boss. Alysrazor is pretty boring now, at least for me. I had fun interrupting all those Fieroblasts before the DPS, last night both DPS on my side went up flying just for the hell of it and I sat there watching the adds cast Brushfire over and over and overā€¦ even two healing most of the fights was a snoozefest. Firelands felt more like a 5 man heroic with a few extra people along for the ride, at least to me. I think they went overboard with these nerfs. Yay Brewfest! Cmon Kodo, thatā€™s all my warrior wants! ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10336 "2011-09-21T13:39:46Z")
> [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > Had our offtank get trapped and die while tanking Riplimb, Well thatā€™s just silly - how yā€™all get along without me I have no idea. šŸ˜‰ > [@](#): > > Firelands felt more like a 5 man heroic with a few extra people along for the ride, at least to me. I think they went overboard with these nerfs. Thatā€™s kinda sad. So much for working hard and having a sense of accomplishment when the last boss dies. Now itā€™s more ā€œwell, at least we beat the nerfed versionā€ā€¦ if they want more people to kill things I donā€™t know why they donā€™t just recycle the ICC buffs and do it that way rather than one massive nerf that trivializes the place. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10337 "2011-09-21T13:42:29Z")
Only logged on last night long enough to do Direbrew on my three 85s. No mounts, but my pally got the BoE one-handed weapon. I wish I had a toon who could use it! Iā€™m guessing itā€™s not going to AH for the 2500g people are asking for it; there were already 15-20 available for auction. If I canā€™t sell it Iā€™ll probably donate it to someone in the guild. The Pickled Egg trinket dropped and would have been a really nice upgrade for my shaman, but the druid dps out-needed me for it for his off-spec. Bastard! But Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll have many more tries. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10338 "2011-09-21T15:01:09Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > And I got the Kodo on my very first Direbrew run this year. Hooray! [del]:shakefist:[/del] I mean, congratulations! > [@Shin\_Kell](#): > > I think they went overboard with these nerfs. 15-20% across the board is pretty extreme, especially since the next tier isnā€™t even out yet. > [@Jas09](#): > > So much for working hard and having a sense of accomplishment when the last boss dies. Now itā€™s more ā€œwell, at least we beat the nerfed versionā€ā€¦ Very much this. Iā€™m not even raiding anymore, and itā€™s annoying the shit out of me. Nerfing content thatā€™s no longer relevant, fine (like they did for T11 when T12 came out). Doing it while people are still working on it? How fucking _condescending_. > [@Skammer](#): > > The Pickled Egg trinket dropped and would have been a really nice upgrade for my shaman, but the druid dps out-needed me for it for his off-spec. Bastard! IME, people are often surprisingly willing to trade pieces when thereā€™s a situation like this. They roll Need so it doesnā€™t get sharded, but if thereā€™s someone who actually could use it as a MS upgrade, theyā€™ll hand it over if asked nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10339 "2011-09-21T15:02:22Z")
0-3 on mounts from Direbrew yesterday, but my tankadin did get the trinket with +510 STA on it. Heā€™s now at 159K HP self-buffed. Only blue item heā€™s still using is his shield. There doesnā€™t seem to be a JP upgrade for the shield slot, so Iā€™m open to suggestionsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10340 "2011-09-21T15:06:51Z")
Thereā€™s a craftable and a BOE drop that are both equivalent to T11. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480/10341 "2011-09-21T15:17:37Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > IME, people are often surprisingly willing to trade pieces when thereā€™s a situation like this. They roll Need so it doesnā€™t get sharded, but if thereā€™s someone who actually could use it as a MS upgrade, theyā€™ll hand it over if asked nicely. Thatā€™s a good point, Iā€™ll ask nicely next time. Iā€™m not too worried because itā€™s only the first day and I could run Direbrew all day to farm it if I want to, especially as a healer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=516) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-wow-general-discussion-thread-6-8-10/542480.md?page=518)